SHOCKING Win7 NIGHTMARE tale!

[markjs]

OK, I am still completely in the dark on this and mind you I am no paranoid. I spent new years 2000 chatting online, and until today I ran all my Windows OSs with no password.

In any case last night I saw that a folder with semi important things in it had completely vanished from where it should be! It is backed up so I didn't think too much of it at the time until I went to go look at a picture folder and found it missing too! This freaked me out, and I have been sketchy in my understanding of 7's file management structure in the first place so I looked in the root of the drive. What I saw there BLEW MY FREAKING MIND!!!

All of a sudden, though I am the only user, supposedly with administrative privileges, I see a bunch of folder with lock icons on them. I tried to get in them; in Vista as I know it I would have had to wait for it to assume permission, but it would bust in like a hot knife through butter. This time no dice! These folders are locked to me!

I immediately shut down and unplugged while I thought about this before I remembered I have OS X (Hackintosh) on this machine just for fun. Thank "the force" that I had it! I normally might have had Ubuntu already set up for the machine but this time I don't. I can't seem to find the missing folders in OS X, but I can get in to all the locked folders which appear to be empty. I wish I had had ubuntu since I am a novice with OS X, but I will get ubuntu on here ASAP now.

That's pretty much all of it, I will post news as it develops!

Wow! I am so freaked out I can say it backwards! woW!

Hell of a trojan there if indeed it is some outside malicious code!

 

[MrChad]

My sarcasm meter must be malfunctioning

 

[xSauronx]

i want some of what the OP is smoking

 

[GrumpyMan]

The OP's post "BLEW MY FREAKING MIND".

 

[santz]

its called permissions dude

 

[snikt]

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

 

[Rubycon]

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbaQt6FNbqI

 

[soonerproud]

I ran all my Windows OSs with no password.

This is really a brain dead idea and you got what you deserved, honestly. I hope you learned a valuable lesson.

Your title is misleading. This is not a win 7 issue as much as it is a lack of security awareness issue.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Scotty: "I can't give you anymore power captain, the warp engines have security awareness issues!!!!".

 

[JackMDS]

Your title is misleading. This is not a win 7 issue as much as it is a lack of security awareness issue.

If you look at most of these posts, that start with Win 7 ****** you would see the actually they should be altered to.

I have little clue about what I am doing. Please help in...................

But hey, the American Dream prime directive is: "It always someone else Fault".

 

[corkyg]

Agree - it is not a Win 7 issue - it is a headspace problem.

 

[Scotteq]

But hey, the American Dream prime directive is: "It always someone else Fault".

But.. but... It's *so* simple!! All you have to do to completely rewrite the entire OS, using less than 1/3rd the code, fix all of the annoying problems (especially the self-inflicted ones!), make it infinitely backwards (and forwards!) compatible with every device and application ever created, make it impervious to malware, impervious to stupidity, run 10X the code in 1/4 the time, and look/feel/work like all previous operating systems so that users don't have to learn anything new.

Oh yeah - it has to be free, too.

See!! Problem solved!

 

[VirtualLarry]

This is really a brain dead idea and you got what you deserved, honestly. I hope you learned a valuable lesson.

Your title is misleading. This is not a win 7 issue as much as it is a lack of security awareness issue.

Why should someone put a windows password on their login, if they are the only ones using their machine, and no-one else has physical access.

(Which, if someone else has physical access, putting on a windows password is worthless anyways.)

Windows, by default, has always blocked remote logins for accounts without a password.

So, tell me again, what are the REAL security risks for not having a password? Because I just don't see them.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Its 12/23 and I think we have another candidate for dumbest post of the year.

 

[dualsmp]

You need to take ownership of the folder(s).

http://www.blogsdna.com/2159/how-to...sions-to-access-files-folder-in-windows-7.htm

 

[markjs]

You know what? Screw all your rudeness! I came here for help, not for practice for you to be jackasses!

I have never had this problem in ANY Windows OS before now, and I know all about permissions and what a pain in the ass it is to change them. I have a single user PC and nothing to hide, and for the most part do not worry about being anal about security. I have a router with a good firewall, and Windows Firewall and a good understanding on keeping my machines secure, and being as this has NEVER happened to me before, and that even this time it is not a security issue but a problem with 7 and it's desire to assume I am stupid and protect me from my own files!

Nobody ever uses my machine but me, and the simple reason for no password is that it is freaking annoying to have to enter one every time the screen save comes on. It annoys me that 7 has such ridiculous measures, without just a bit of warning for people who aren't PC morons! A chance to opt out of be aware ahead of time that Windows is going to automatically sort my files how it wants, rename them, and lock many of them without telling me!

So maybe you guys like it to be pre-assumed that you are an idiot who should not own a PC, but I don't appreciate it much! Other than VirtualLarry you can all kiss my ass and please do not attempt to comment on my questions in the future (if I even bother to ask them here) if you don't have an answer or a constructive idea, because I figured it out in short order with zero help form any of you (or anyone), except in that now I know to just ask my questions at Hardware Central or possible Ars in the future, where actual adults are helpful, not rude, and the median age over 17!

In the future, take it down a notch. You're pushing the rudeness line for a technical forum.

-ViRGE

 

[markjs]

Oh, and because I don't want to act like you folks, I found a nice registry hack that allows the taking ownership thing to be much easier here. I hope this is helpful to those of you who are interested in help and not acting like junior high idiots!

 

[markjs]

I too would like to know the answer to VirtualLarry's question, if anyone actually knows.

 

[nerp]

Why should someone put a windows password on their login, if they are the only ones using their machine, and no-one else has physical access.

(Which, if someone else has physical access, putting on a windows password is worthless anyways.)

Windows, by default, has always blocked remote logins for accounts without a password.

So, tell me again, what are the REAL security risks for not having a password? Because I just don't see them.

Why should you put a lock on your door even if you live alone?

It's to keep criminals out, dude.

 

[nerp]

And instead of ranting and raving on the internet, you could easily learn how to make windows automatically log-in with a specific user and password saving you the login prompt.

As far as file permissions, this shouldn't be an issue except for rare instances in which you move a HD to a new computer. Using proper backup methods would prevent this . . .

These aren't the DOS days anymore. I don't see peopel running linux bitching and moaning about user accounts.

 

[soonerproud]

Why should someone put a windows password on their login, if they are the only ones using their machine, and no-one else has physical access.

(Which, if someone else has physical access, putting on a windows password is worthless anyways.)

Windows, by default, has always blocked remote logins for accounts without a password.

So, tell me again, what are the REAL security risks for not having a password? Because I just don't see them.

Because you are leaving your system wide open to outside attack without a strong password, even on limited accounts. If you like your pc being taken over by the bad guys, go ahead and run without a password.

 

[soonerproud]

A chance to opt out of be aware ahead of time that Windows is going to automatically sort my files how it wants, rename them, and lock many of them without telling me!

You do realize that Windows is not responsible for messing with your files? That trojan was a file hijacker that changed the permissions and moved the files so you could be bribed to pay to unlock them.

That is why you run a password.


You got what you deserved.

 

[markjs]

You do realize that Windows is not responsible for messing with your files? That trojan was a file hijacker that changed the permissions and moved the files so you could be bribed to pay to unlock them.

That is why you run a password.


You got what you deserved.

If there was any actual evidence of any infection which there wasn't jackass!

 

[soonerproud]

If there was any actual evidence of any infection which there wasn't jackass!

Ever heard of a rootkit? They are silent and very hard to detect. Instead of calling people names why don't you turn on that mass of jello inside your brain and listen to what the posters on this board are actually trying to tell you.

 

[JackMDS]

Ok the personal attacks turned the key postion to Off, and erased the password. D:

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