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SlickSnake

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LOL. You guys understand that there is a 99% chance these are just two American ISIS fanboys. If this had been planned by ISIS or AQAP there would have been an attack like charlie hebdo or the world trade center bombing. This is pretty much analagous to what Tsarnaev did if he had been shot dead trying to do it.

If by that statement you mean they were recent Islamic converts and naturalized American citizens. If so, I would take that bet, because they are just as likely to be immigrants spreading their "peaceful" Islamic religion here.

And BTW, Tsarnaev's brother and his family were all immigrants, so that example you used kind of undermines your previous statement about the perps possibly being American born ISIS fan boys right there.

But we will find out soon enough. All they know for sure is one ID because they ran the license plate. The police were afraid to approach the bodies for fear they might be booby trapped and wearing a bomb jacket or something.
 

Dari

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And now we are going to denigrate 1.4 billion people based on the actions of two of them....

Nah, not just 2 people. Look all around the world and you will see jihadists fighting in the name of Islam. Killing and maiming people based on scriptures that were written when the religion was on the warpath. The writers of the Koran never understood peace, only submission. Those writings have served as motivations for countless fighters ever since and will continue to do so until reformation comes about. I can see that happening when an American general enters the Kabaa in al-Masjid al-Ḥarām and commands the editing of their holy book. Of course, plenty of blood would've had to be shed for this to come to light.
 
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SlickSnake

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And now we are going to denigrate 1.4 billion people based on the actions of two of them....

So according to you, let's all just ignore the fact for sake of argument here that ISIS and other Islamic fanatics are murdering hundreds or thousands of people daily around the world just because they don't believe in Islam.

Here is 300 murdered for Islam and Mohammad by ISIS just yesterday, in fact. In one country. And I'm quite sure there were hundreds more killed yesterday by Islamic fanatics in other countries, as well. But by all means, keep on rowing that leaky troll boat.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32565809
 
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If by that statement you mean they were recent Islamic converts and naturalized American citizens. If so, I would take that bet, because they are just as likely to be immigrants spreading their "peaceful" Islamic religion here.

And BTW, Tsarnaev's brother and his family were all immigrants, so that example you used kind of undermines your previous statement about the perps possibly being American born ISIS fan boys right there.

But we will find out soon enough. All they know for sure is one ID because they ran the license plate. The police were afraid to approach the bodies for fear they might be booby trapped and wearing a bomb jacket or something.

What? You are the one who likes to focus on immigration status. My point is that the Charlie Hebdo attacks were planned in Yemen by actual terrorists who have killed many actual people before. Instead, this is going to be two muslims who are enamored with ISIS.


Tsarnaev was also done without actual direction from any other country or terrorist group. They were home-grown american terrorists. US citizens, just like you.


So according to you, let's all just ignore the fact for sake of argument here that ISIS and other Islamic fanatics are murdering hundreds or thousands of people daily around the world just because they don't believe in Islam.
I'm not here to explain to you why you are an intolerant and ill-informed blowhard. You can figure that out for yourself.


I will be sure to complain to you the next time somebody with your background does something bad. According to you, that's how morality works
 
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SlickSnake

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What? You are the one who likes to focus on immigration status. My point is that the Charlie Hebdo attacks were planned in Yemen by actual terrorists who have killed many actual people before. Instead, this is going to be two muslims who are enamored with ISIS.

Tsarnaev was also done without actual direction from any other country or terrorist group. They were home-grown american terrorists. US citizens, just like you.

I'm not here to explain to you why you are an intolerant and ill-informed blowhard. You can figure that out for yourself.

I will be sure to complain to you the next time somebody with your background does something bad. According to you, that's how morality works

You be sure and do just that, clueless pal.

Meanwhile, you have to first understand morality to attempt to use it against someone, and based on your troll posts, I certainly don't see morality as your strongest attribute. Talk about intolerant, ill-informed blowhards.
 

Meghan54

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I hear this a lot and it is a very PC statement and, perhaps, true because the vast majority of people are peaceful and good at heart. But let's not kid ourselves. Islam is a military religion. A warrior religion that never freed itself of its aggressive nature because it was good for the cause. This was bound to lead to clashes at wherever Islam and non-Islamic beliefs met. Nothing will change until Muslims reform their religion or, at the very least, it's interpretation.


And Christianity is different because...?
 

SlickSnake

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Texas appears to be becoming the shit hole of humanity. It attracts all sorts of stupid.

It'll be funny when in the future it turns out that Texan residents went mental due to contaminated water from all the fracking they allowed.

So, to what cause can we attribute your stupid mental problems to? Religion, politics or probably both? Or did mom just booze it up a lot before you were born?
 

SlickSnake

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Pretty much the standard operating procedure for a number of folks here. Islam, wooooooh scary!

If the Ebolas don't get you, the Islams will.

Not to mention the scariest part about it is over once they finally chop off your unbelieving heathen head with a dull scimitar and feed it to their dogs.
 

WelshBloke

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I would tend to disagree with your observation. Worldwide, the vast majority of Muslims are not peaceful. Because they willingly follow and fully support their countries leaders. Nearly every Islamic dominated country is governed by brutal, barbaric and blood thirsty religious leaders and their political puppets who punish even minor crimes like adultery with death. That is hardly a religion of peace, when it refuses to show compassion and forgiveness even towards their own followers.

You know that they say pretty similar stuff about us?

That the West invades and bombs the shit out of their countries, that we stick our military bases where we like, that we kill their citizens with impunity...

Our governments do all that and we support them, so we must be bloodthirsty warmongers all eh?
 

SlickSnake

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You know that they say pretty similar stuff about us?

That the West invades and bombs the shit out of their countries, that we stick our military bases where we like, that we kill their citizens with impunity...

Our governments do all that and we support them, so we must be bloodthirsty warmongers all eh?

Don't cherry pick your quotes and deliberately take them out of context just to suit your position when you know damn well I already essentially made your point in my closing statement which you didn't bother to quote.
 

WelshBloke

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Don't cherry pick your quotes and deliberately take them out of context just to suit your position when you know damn well I already essentially made your point in my closing statement which you didn't bother to quote.

How is that out of context or cherry picked?
Your main premise seems to be that Muslims aren't a peaceable people because they follow bloodthirsty governments.

I'd say that if anyone was cherry picking to support their position it would be you.
 
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Not to mention the scariest part about it is over once they finally chop off your unbelieving heathen head with a dull scimitar and feed it to their dogs.

I'm ever so frightened of something like that happening. Oh heavens, whatever shall I do.
 

SlickSnake

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I'm ever so frightened of something like that happening. Oh heavens, whatever shall I do.

I thought the floodgates are wide open in Canada to Muslim immigrants. And of course all of them will unconditionally love you just like you love them, in spite of the fact you are a Godless heathen that should be killed according to their peaceful religion. So good luck with all that, mate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Canada
 
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I thought the floodgates are wide open in Canada to Muslim immigrants. And of course all of them will unconditionally love you just like you love them, in spite of the fact you are a Godless heathen that should be killed according to their peaceful religion. So good luck with all that, mate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Canada

I'm surrounded by Muslims every day of the week. I'm not frightened. Why are you?
 

Meghan54

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Worldwide, the vast majority of Muslims are not peaceful. Nearly every Islamic dominated country is governed by brutal, barbaric and blood thirsty religious leaders and their political puppets who punish even minor crimes like adultery with death.


Thank you for once again proving that, while we are all born ignorant, one must work hard to remain stupid. Keep up the hard work.
 

SlickSnake

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I'm surrounded by Muslims every day of the week. I'm not frightened. Why are you?

Who said I'm scared of them? Why not instead ask someone they are about to behead for being a disbelieving heathen how scared they are of them? because that makes a hell of a lot more sense, then, mate.

But if you want to mince words and instead debate about what I really dislike, it's any hatefully intolerant person who checks their brains at the door, in favor of blind faith in an imaginary religion (or political ideology) which is used as an excuse to kill or oppress other people who disagree with them. And that could include literally any religion or politics misused in that manner.

And both religion and politics seem to attract an unusually large amount of idiots who are looking for some kind of guidance, however wrong it may be, because they litterally can't manage their own affairs without pretend divine intervention or a politicians lying pandering to sustain them. That's what's really scary.
 

Londo_Jowo

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You know that they say pretty similar stuff about us?

That the West invades and bombs the shit out of their countries, that we stick our military bases where we like, that we kill their citizens with impunity...

Our governments do all that and we support them, so we must be bloodthirsty warmongers all eh?

Bingo!!!
 

1prophet

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I know, lets be offensive and see what happens!


Would you also blame women for getting raped based on their manner of dress because someone was offended religiously and couldn't control themselves?

would you blame gays for getting attacked if they were kissing in front of a church because their actions were offensive to someones religion?

do you blame the doctor and female patient for the actions of the criminal who bombs the planned parenthood clinic because abortion is an offense to his religion?

yet for some strange reason you pretend liberals do that with Islam,

sorry but you do not have a right to violence in America just because someone criticizes, offends, makes fun of your religious beliefs on womens rights like abortion, gays and marriage, creation, your religious idols, or in this case drawing a cartoon of a religious figure, REGARDLESS WHAT THE REASON IS FOR THE PEOPLE DRAWING IT.

You do have the right to criticize them, protest them, or boycott them but not violence or intimidation.
 
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Londo_Jowo

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Because fear always springs from ignorance.
We fear things in proportion to our ignorance of them.

There is no doubt that SlickSnake hasn't had any real interactions with Muslims who do not agree with extremist.

I know, they should be more vocal and outspoken. Knowing that these extremist will kill people because they follow a different sect (Sunni or Shiite), I would keep my mouth shut too.
 
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