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michal1980

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I'm surrounded by Muslims every day of the week. I'm not frightened. Why are you?

Who said I'm scared of them? Why not instead ask someone they are about to behead for being a disbelieving heathen how scared they are of them? because that makes a hell of a lot more sense, then, mate.

But if you want to mince words and instead debate about what I really dislike, it's any hatefully intolerant person who checks their brains at the door, in favor of blind faith in an imaginary religion (or political ideology) which is used as an excuse to kill or oppress other people who disagree with them. And that could include literally any religion or politics misused in that manner.

And both religion and politics seem to attract an unusually large amount of idiots who are looking for some kind of guidance, however wrong it may be, because they litterally can't manage their own affairs without pretend divine intervention or a politicians lying pandering to sustain them. That's what's really scary.


In Victorian Grays f-ed up world, anyone that questions Islam is automatically afraid of them.
 

QuantumPion

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The vast, vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people. But, some calling themselves Muslims are not.

That said, what's the over/under on Geller's longevity?

No. By that logic, you could say Nazi's were not Jew-killers, because the vast vast majority of Nazis did not personally operate at concentration camps.

Although the vast vast majority of muslims are not personally committing acts of violence, the vast vast majority of muslims either actively support or at least tacitly approve of such violence.
 

DrDoug

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As with all things involving conservatives, there's a bit more to this story than is making the rounds here at home. I was reading at another forum and a member there mentioned seeing a BBC report where the mayor of Garland is interviewed and states this 'art festival' was put together by outsiders with siting help from a couple of locals. It seems that the local school had held a Muslim meeting/oriented rally in January (and had held at least one more in the prior year) and that may be why their tiny town was targeted by Gellar and her band of nutjobs. According to this poster, the mayor didn't sound very happy about their holding the event in his town.

Just what some small town needs, a bunch of outsiders coming in and using the event in town as bait for Muslim nutcases to attack them.
 

Knowing

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Gellar was the one that put the inflammatory ads on busses. She's a one woman Jewish Westboro.
 

Meghan54

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There is no doubt that SlickSnake hasn't had any real interactions with Muslims who do not agree with extremist.

I know, they should be more vocal and outspoken. Knowing that these extremist will kill people because they follow a different sect (Sunni or Shiite), I would keep my mouth shut too.


And I'd be willing to bet Snake thinks the majority of Muslims are Middle Eastern. LOL!
 

Meghan54

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As with all things involving conservatives, there's a bit more to this story than is making the rounds here at home. I was reading at another forum and a member there mentioned seeing a BBC report where the mayor of Garland is interviewed and states this 'art festival' was put together by outsiders with siting help from a couple of locals. It seems that the local school had held a Muslim meeting/oriented rally in January (and had held at least one more in the prior year) and that may be why their tiny town was targeted by Gellar and her band of nutjobs. According to this poster, the mayor didn't sound very happy about their holding the event in his town.

Just what some small town needs, a bunch of outsiders coming in and using the event in town as bait for Muslim nutcases to attack them.



She (Geller) said in a statement issued Sunday night that the shooting showed how "needed our event really was."



Yeah, right.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Although the vast vast majority of muslims are not personally committing acts of violence, the vast vast majority of muslims either actively support or at least tacitly approve of such violence.

Yes and all Catholics are terrorists as well.....you do remember the IRA right? Since every Catholic didn't condemn everything they did, that makes all Catholics complicit. Hell, lets add in the recent Catholic church issues with pedophiles as well. I guess all Catholics are pedo's too.

Also, Christians are all terrorists as well, they go around tying to kill abortion doctors. Since every Christian doesn't condemn these acts, they tacitly approve of them as well.

Would you like me to keep going?
 

boomerang

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The two perps had a choice. They didn't have to respond in any manner at all. They could have picketed outside the event in a totally non-violent form of protest. They chose a path of violence and they paid a price for that. It was their choice.
 

Blanky

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I know, lets be offensive and see what happens!
So if some women get together and have a conference about women in the workforce and a male chauvinist who hates the idea attacks them for it, you will say the same thing? "Gee, those dumb bitches knew they were begging for it, can't really be surprised!"
 

DrDoug

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One of the problems with "free speech" is that while you have a right to it, it's not a right without consequence. In this case of free speech being exercised, Gellar chose to do something inflammatory that is known to incite some people to the point of murder. She chose to do it in a small town where she doesn't live, where it wouldn't more directly affect her. Basically, she was too chickenshit to do this where she lives because she would have to actually live with the consequences.The event ended with the two attempted murderers dead and a local officer wounded.

The reason the right to free speech is written out as law in our country is because the people who made up our country had fled from places where they did not have that right. While it's good and all that free speech is the law of the land it doesn't protect you from someone trying to take that right away from you when death is involved. It only protects you after the fact if the murderer is caught and prosecuted. Meanwhile, you (or others) are dead. Or in this case, wounded. Great, you had your free speech, someone tried to violate that right and people are dead and wounded.

Was it worth it?
 

Blanky

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Yes and all Catholics are terrorists as well.....you do remember the IRA right? Since every Catholic didn't condemn everything they did, that makes all Catholics complicit. Hell, lets add in the recent Catholic church issues with pedophiles as well. I guess all Catholics are pedo's too.

Also, Christians are all terrorists as well, they go around tying to kill abortion doctors. Since every Christian doesn't condemn these acts, they tacitly approve of them as well.

Would you like me to keep going?
I would like you to keep going because your comparisons are so terribad I find them amusing. The IRA didn't kill in the name of religion not do priests screw children in its name so it we compare abortion bombings to the thousands of terror attacks per year done in the name of Islam we conclude the is a "slight" difference of magnitude. Next up please bring up the crusades.
 

michal1980

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One of the problems with "free speech" is that while you have a right to it, it's not a right without consequence. In this case of free speech being exercised, Gellar chose to do something inflammatory that is known to incite some people to the point of murder. She chose to do it in a small town where she doesn't live, where it wouldn't more directly affect her. Basically, she was too chickenshit to do this where she lives because she would have to actually live with the consequences.The event ended with the two attempted murderers dead and a local officer wounded.

The reason the right to free speech is written out as law in our country is because the people who made up our country had fled from places where they did not have that right. While it's good and all that free speech is the law of the land it doesn't protect you from someone trying to take that right away from you when death is involved. It only protects you after the fact if the murderer is caught and prosecuted. Meanwhile, you (or others) are dead. Or in this case, wounded. Great, you had your free speech, someone tried to violate that right and people are dead and wounded.

Was it worth it?

your fucked up dude.


Now you have to live in fear of death for practicing free speech?

The islam terrorists have won.
 

bshole

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your fucked up dude.


Now you have to live in fear of death for practicing free speech?

The islam terrorists have won.

Yep the next time I decide to attend a festival whose only purpose is to insult and denigrate muslims I am going to be real fucking nervous. Damn maybe I should just go back to a nice safe activity like burning crosses and dressing in bed sheets.
 

DrDoug

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your fucked up dude.


Now you have to live in fear of death for practicing free speech?

The islam terrorists have won.

It's "you're" and yes, you are. No, you do not have to live in fear of death for practicing free speech. It's a judgment call on the part of the one exercising it, that's all I said you fucking moron.

Oh, and it's "Islamic" you stupid git. Get a fucking education.
 

drebo

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Yep the next time I decide to attend a festival whose only purpose is to insult and denigrate muslims I am going to be real fucking nervous. Damn maybe I should just go back to a nice safe activity like burning crosses and dressing in bed sheets.

How was this event insulting to Muslims?

We're not in the Middle East. We don't have a theocracy for a government. We have no laws against drawing anything. We are not beholden to whatever fucked up rules and regulations they place on their people. What we do is no business of theirs. If they're offended by something we do, they have the right not to look.

You know...kind of how Catholics don't care that other people make fun of the fact that some of their practices could be seen as idolatry by ignorant people. Or how the Mormons actually supported the musical The Book of Morman despite it being a parody.

Or maybe you prefer to allow religious groups to dictate how we think about them...kind of like how Scientology sues anyone who says anything remotely negative about them. Or how Islamists just kill people they don't like.

Yeah, the latter sounds like a totally better way to live.

Fucking apologists. You're almost as bad as the terrorists themselves. Because of you, they've won. We have to tiptoe around them for fear of our lives. All because of you.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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I would like you to keep going because your comparisons are so terribad I find them amusing. The IRA didn't kill in the name of religion not do priests screw children in its name so it we compare abortion bombings to the thousands of terror attacks per year done in the name of Islam we conclude the is a "slight" difference of magnitude. Next up please bring up the crusades.

Cognitive dissonance and bigotry are powerful drugs it appears.

You forgot the Christian abortion doctor killers.

But hey, keep on believing that killing thousands of people is perfectly OK, you know, all those innocent women and kids that he have killed with drone strikes. That must A-OK in your book.

And don't forget all the people the US tortured, and continues to hold without charges in Gitmo. No problem with that either I bet.

Like others have said, there are over 1.5 BILLION Muslims. If even 1% were terrorists, that would mean that there would be 15 million terrorists, and there is no evidence to support that. And it they were all terrorists, we would all be dead already. Bigotry is a bad, OK?
 

Nebor

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As with all things involving conservatives, there's a bit more to this story than is making the rounds here at home. I was reading at another forum and a member there mentioned seeing a BBC report where the mayor of Garland is interviewed and states this 'art festival' was put together by outsiders with siting help from a couple of locals. It seems that the local school had held a Muslim meeting/oriented rally in January (and had held at least one more in the prior year) and that may be why their tiny town was targeted by Gellar and her band of nutjobs. According to this poster, the mayor didn't sound very happy about their holding the event in his town.

Just what some small town needs, a bunch of outsiders coming in and using the event in town as bait for Muslim nutcases to attack them.

Garland isn't exactly a small town, with a population of 230,000 people. It's a relatively poor Dallas suburb with a majority non-white population and one of the highest "foreign born" population percentages in the state. There's a reason that both of these Islam focused events took place there, and it wasn't because they were the only city in the DFW area with an auditorium to rent out.
 

Nebor

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"I will not abridge my freedoms so as not to offend savages." -Pamela Geller

Pretty much on the nose.
 
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