shooting at quebec city mosque, 5 reported dead

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Anyone care to take a crack at understanding this logic (see bolded)?

"U.S. President Donald Trump called Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday, pledging to support Canadian police “in any way necessary” in the aftermath of the Quebec mosque attack.

During the call, Trump reportedly passed along his condolences for all Canadians after the attack on Sunday night, which killed at least six at the Centre culturel islamique de Quebec. After the call, White House press secretary Sean Spicer pointed to the attack as justification for Trump’s focus on national security.

This is another senseless act of violence that cannot be tolerated,” White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ual-respect-after-quebec-city-mosque-shooting

How would anything that the Trump regime is saying/doing have had any effect as regards preventing this attack?

The only thing that I can come up with is, if Muslims weren't allowed in the country the gunman wouldn't have had anyone to attack so there would have been no attack so don't let Muslims in your country?
 

sdifox

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Anyone care to take a crack at understanding this logic (see bolded)?

"U.S. President Donald Trump called Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday, pledging to support Canadian police “in any way necessary” in the aftermath of the Quebec mosque attack.

During the call, Trump reportedly passed along his condolences for all Canadians after the attack on Sunday night, which killed at least six at the Centre culturel islamique de Quebec. After the call, White House press secretary Sean Spicer pointed to the attack as justification for Trump’s focus on national security.

This is another senseless act of violence that cannot be tolerated,” White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ual-respect-after-quebec-city-mosque-shooting

How would anything that the Trump regime is saying/doing have had any effect as regards preventing this attack?

The only thing that I can come up with is, if Muslims weren't allowed in the country the gunman wouldn't have had anyone to attack so there would have been no attack so don't let Muslims in your country?

He might be under the impression that a Muslim did it. Reality doesn't matter much to Spicer.
 
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Blackjack200

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After the call, White House press secretary Sean Spicer pointed to the attack as justification for Trump’s focus on national security.

This is another senseless act of violence that cannot be tolerated,” White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ual-respect-after-quebec-city-mosque-shooting

I think Glenn Greenwald said it best on Twitter: reckless and grotesque.
 
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bshole

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This is only possible after you have dehumanized those with different beliefs than yourself.

That and mental illness..... bet we find out later that this nutter has psychological issues...
 
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Blackjack200

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This is only possible after you have dehumanized those with different beliefs than yourself.

That and mental illness..... bet we find out later that this nutter has psychological issues...

I had to read that post twice before I realized you weren't talking about Trump or Spicer.
 
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brycejones

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Well, one thing we know: the shooter was a big Trump fan... and like many of Trump's bigger fans, also rabidly misogynist on top of the racism and Islamophobia.

It really is as if Trump's win was interpreted by bigots around the world as permission to let their hate flow, whether it's on internet forums or through a gun in a mosque.

Where is BlueMax?
 
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Murloc

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It really is as if Trump's win was interpreted by bigots around the world as permission to let their hate flow, whether it's on internet forums or through a gun in a mosque.
you'd think people in the US would do so given that it's in the US that they can now feel mainstream. Instead, it happened in Canada, which is currently swinging left. This doesn't make me believe much in that theory.
 

Commodus

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you'd think people in the US would do so given that it's in the US that they can now feel mainstream. Instead, it happened in Canada, which is currently swinging left. This doesn't make me believe much in that theory.

Islamophobes recently burned down a mosque in Texas, and there have been hundreds of reports of racist and Islamophobic acts (a distinct uptick) since Trump was elected.
 
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Jaskalas

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Police now saying that one of the two detained is a witness, not a suspect. Bissonnette was the one who called police and was detained after threatening to kill himself for what he had done.

Down to a single shooter, who is clearly mentally ill, and definitely not foreign nor Muslim.

Seems more like insanity or individual hate crime than terrorist group. Terrorist inspired? Eh... if he has known contacts and logistical / finical support... otherwise I'd have to go with inspired at best. By who would be an interesting question to have answered.
 
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Down to a single shooter, who is clearly mentally ill, and definitely not foreign nor Muslim.

Seems more like insanity or individual hate crime than terrorist group. Terrorist inspired? Eh... if he has known contacts and logistical / finical support... otherwise I'd have to go with inspired at best. By who would be an interesting question to have answered.
This is P&N. You won't have to wait for facts to find out who inspired it...
 
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Anyone care to take a crack at understanding this logic (see bolded)?

"U.S. President Donald Trump called Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday, pledging to support Canadian police “in any way necessary” in the aftermath of the Quebec mosque attack.

During the call, Trump reportedly passed along his condolences for all Canadians after the attack on Sunday night, which killed at least six at the Centre culturel islamique de Quebec. After the call, White House press secretary Sean Spicer pointed to the attack as justification for Trump’s focus on national security.

This is another senseless act of violence that cannot be tolerated,” White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Monday. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...ual-respect-after-quebec-city-mosque-shooting

How would anything that the Trump regime is saying/doing have had any effect as regards preventing this attack?

The only thing that I can come up with is, if Muslims weren't allowed in the country the gunman wouldn't have had anyone to attack so there would have been no attack so don't let Muslims in your country?
Well. That's disgusting. I believe the sentiment that's appropriate here is fuck him.
 

brycejones

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There's the Tolerant Right again, spreading love and cheer throughout the world.


Didn't you see already he is mentally ill therefore it isn't an issue for the right. White guy shooting up a mosque is not a terrorist.
 
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There's the Tolerant Right again, spreading love and cheer throughout the world.
You want to see real tolerance check out the right wing sites on this. It's all lies. False flag. Pinning it on the poor white guy. I swear they will blame Muslims for everything. Especially disturbing when they are clearly the targeted victim here.

It's always a Muslim, never the white guy with them.
 
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1sikbITCH

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lol Right. It's important to remember that the intolerant people are those celebrating the election of Trump, not those people vandalizing buildings, burning cars, and throwing rocks at cops to protest the election of Trump. It'd be very easy to confuse that simple truth if one only concentrates on the total intolerance of the tolerant people.

Yes you have declared war on all those people. That shit will not stop until you start killing them in the streets.
 

norseamd

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Down to a single shooter, who is clearly mentally ill, and definitely not foreign nor Muslim.

Seems more like insanity or individual hate crime than terrorist group. Terrorist inspired? Eh... if he has known contacts and logistical / finical support... otherwise I'd have to go with inspired at best. By who would be an interesting question to have answered.

You know whats also interesting?

This is the exact same pattern that occuring among Muslims. More and more Muslims committing terrorism and hate crimes are not part of any official or formal terrorism group, but independent individuals and small cells that are inspired by large formal terrorism and hate groups.
 

Capt Caveman

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Well, one thing we know: the shooter was a big Trump fan... and like many of Trump's bigger fans, also rabidly misogynist on top of the racism and Islamophobia.

It really is as if Trump's win was interpreted by bigots around the world as permission to let their hate flow, whether it's on internet forums or through a gun in a mosque.

Yeah, I also heard he was a conservative online troll and Trump supporter. Based on what some folks talk about here like the imported_Tajmahal troll, hope some of these get vetted soon.
 
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