Shots fired at GOP Congressional baseball practice

[ch33zw1z]

This life owes you nothing.

 

[NesuD]

This life owes you nothing.

Your entitled to your opinion.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Your entitled to your opinion.

So what does this life owe you?

Why you edit your post lol....

 

[Phynaz]

Yep- Donald Trump brings out the best in everybody. That's what makes him a great leader.

You are a predictable and sad jackass.

2011 I guess Obama was a great leader for bringing out the best in Jared Loungher.

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Geekbabe]

Doubtful. It will likely increase they're desire to subdue the plebes.

I cringe at the thought of what they will do to punish the people for this terrible act

 

[ch33zw1z]

You are a predictable and sad jackass.

2011 I guess Obama was a great leader for bringing out the best in Jared Loungher.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Ah yes, Obama's campaign slogans of hate and fear. How could we forget.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I cringe at the thought of what they will do to punish the people for this terrible act

Maybe reasonable gun control discussions will be the result. Dare to dream.

 

[Atreus21]

Even with my post mentioning her?

Despite me mentioning Giffords, he seems to have totally forgotten.

You trying to draw parallels between this shooter and Jared Loughner is a pathetic grasp at straws.

Jared Loughner was diagnosed on two separate occasions with paranoid schizophrenia. The left made every possible effort to connect him to the Tea Party despite any good evidence of that. The most that anyone could arrive at was they he was "anti-government". Whereas by all accounts James Hodgkinson was a pretty boilerplate progressive with no signs of mental problems apart from assaulting his girlfriend and shooting a US congressman. Google "James Hodgkinson mental illness" or any variant of it and you might be struck by the lack of support for that contention so far.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/who-is-james-t-hodgkinson/530295/

His only mental illness so far was that he was pissed off.

 

[zinfamous]

Whereas by all accounts James Hodgkinson was a pretty boilerplate progressive with no signs of mental problems apart from assaulting his girlfriend and shooting a US congressman. Google "James Hodgkinson mental illness" or any variant of it and you might be struck by the lack of support for that contention so far.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/who-is-james-t-hodgkinson/530295/

His only mental illness so far was that he was pissed off.

So, "no signs of mental illness, with few exceptions."

Lordy.

 

[senseamp]

I am a firm believer that self preservation is the best motivation. If Republicans still think that having lots of pissed off people with easy access to guns is a great idea, then I doubt us liberals pontificating on gun control will change their minds.

 

[brycejones]

So, "no signs of mental illness, with few exceptions."

Lordy.

Dude atreus21 just pwned the internets today as he will inform of us of shortly.

 

[Atreus21]

So, "no signs of mental illness, with few exceptions."

Lordy.

Violence is now a sufficient indicator of mental illness on the level of paranoid schizophrenia?

Lordy indeed. This again is just grasping at straws.

 

[HomerJS]

I didn't forget him. What I did forget was the guy who showed up and started shooting at democrat congressmen.

What you've done is link pissed off voters with Dems as if its wholly owned by them. Which belies the shooting of Gabby Giffords. Let's just call you a professional cherry picker.

Dems don't call for violence that is wholly owned by the GOP leadership.

 

[Atreus21]

What you've done is link pissed off voters with Dems as if its wholly owned by them. Which belies the shooting of Gabby Giffords. Let's just call you a professional cherry picker.

Dems don't call for violence that is wholly owned by the GOP leadership.

Pissed off voters are not limited to the democrats. Neither is political violence.

But to see no meaningful distinction between Loughner and Hodgkinson is to deliberately avoid the facts.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

While there isn't an announcement of a formal diagnosis for Hodgkinson I'd say there's some indications based on his actions leading up to the shooting. He abandoned his life and moved across the country to live out of his van to protest Trump. There's certainly the possibility of an undiagnosed mental illness (or maybe one was diagnosed and it hasn't been confirmed yet). The difference between Loughner and Hodgkinson is this just happened yesterday. Time will tell.

 

[Atreus21]

Does anyone know which or how many congressmen or women were at the baseball game?

 

[brycejones]

Does anyone know which or how many congressmen or women were at the baseball game?

None yet since it was a practice. The game is tonight.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Wish I was in a position to attend that game. I'm hoping the stands are packed tonight.

Edit: Found one source saying they had sold 18,000 tickets by noon so far. That gives me some hope.

 

[highland145]

Frankly surprised that no one else was carrying. I know it's DC but surely a congressman or his staffers could get waivers.

 

[zinfamous]

Frankly surprised that no one else was carrying. I know it's DC but surely a congressman or his staffers could get waivers.

I know it was a GOP gathering, but if you think those people are actually interested in their own personal gun ownership, then I've got a bridge to sell you. They just want your vote, and they know your button.

 

[zinfamous]

Pissed off voters are not limited to the democrats. Neither is political violence.

But to see no meaningful distinction between Loughner and Hodgkinson is to deliberately avoid the facts.

It hasn't even been 2 days. I am sure that if you plumb the depths of your memory hole, you might recall that it took quite some time to learn the long history of that particular psycopath.

and again, it's easy as hell to label someone as --x--, after the fact, when all you are looking for are specific bullet points to defend that thesis of --x--.

This is why the whole legislation/argument to blame and separate mental illness, specifically, from the fact of the violence and murder that actually happens, is extremely difficult--probably impossible, to address in any meaningful way.

 

[umbrella39]

You are a predictable and sad jackass.

2011 I guess Obama was a great leader for bringing out the best in Jared Loungher.

Welcome to my ignore list.

You are a predictable and sad jackass.

2011 I guess Obama was a great leader for bringing out the best in Jared Loungher.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Revisionist history by a moron... Back to your safe space snowflake...

 

[agent00f]

I didn't forget him. What I did forget was the guy who showed up and started shooting at democrat congressmen.

Let's consider that situation for contrast. The degenerate leader has literally called for followers to kill his political opponent ("maybe the 2nd amendment people can do something about her"), and I can guarantee not a single one of them gave the slightest shit then, if they weren't busy running interference for that sake of shit already. Yet here they are pretending to have any moral principles all of a sudden. Too bad there are always going to be naive liberals & whatnot who take people like that at their word.

 

[Atreus21]

It hasn't even been 2 days. I am sure that if you plumb the depths of your memory hole, you might recall that it took quite some time to learn the long history of that particular psycopath.

and again, it's easy as hell to label someone as --x--, after the fact, when all you are looking for are specific bullet points to defend that thesis of --x--.

This is why the whole legislation/argument to blame and separate mental illness, specifically, from the fact of the violence and murder that actually happens, is extremely difficult--probably impossible, to address in any meaningful way.

That's fair - I don't dispute that it's early yet. But to be fair again, you guys mentioned the Loughner comparison.

 

[agent00f]

You are a predictable and sad jackass.

2011 I guess Obama was a great leader for bringing out the best in Jared Loungher.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Frankly surprised that no one else was carrying. I know it's DC but surely a congressman or his staffers could get waivers.

Forgot to put these with Atreus21 as examples of degens clutching at their pearls when it becomes profitable to do so.