Shots fired at GOP Congressional baseball practice

[John Connor]

Well, you'll should absolutely LOVE Oscar. You see, his minimalist life style and turning trash into a home speaks volumes about his "Eco-friendly" lifestyle. This should appeal to you all lefests. So in fact, the jokes on you.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Except Oscar doesn't do shit like that. All he does is sit in his trash can and bitch. So the joke still is, always was, and forever more will be on you. Don't make me slam the lid, Oscar.

 

[kage69]

Sorry about hitting that nerve highland, but I'll skip drawing you a map on how Trump's business fortunes have been boosted since Hillary lost. I do appreciate you deciding to pull the ultimate cop out of 'why didn't you vote then' though. It's foot-in-mouth maneuvers like that that save all of us a lot of time. Doesn't seem like you've gotten any smarter since the last time I bothered with you, but at least you seem to be in good spirits. Not letting the slow motion trainwreck in the White House get you down. Stiff upper lip! Atta boy.



Anyway, thought I'd come back and just drop this here for some added perspective:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=1

University of North Carolina Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer found that Islam-inspired terror attacks accounted for 50 deaths since 9/11, but that “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”

"Since 2000, the handout notes, 25 law enforcement officers have been killed by right-wing extremists, who share a “fear that government will confiscate firearms” and a “belief in the approaching collapse of government and the economy.”


And none of it produced what this shooting did among the right....go figure.

*note that the article is 2 years old though*

 

[John Connor]

Except Oscar doesn't do shit like that. All he does is sit in his trash can and bitch.

HAHAHAHA!!!

 

[kage69]

Why can't you ask questions that are based on truthful premises? Is it so you can live in a land of delusion where you're justified?

I can't speak for shithouse there, but I've noticed in a few of my acquaintances who are elderly this notion that the left-wing violence of the 60s and 70s continued unabated to this day, rather than yielding to right-wing extremist violence in the early 90s. This perception is only encouraged and enhanced by right wing media, of which all them them partake in heavily on a near daily basis.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Except Oscar doesn't do shit like that. All he does is sit in his trash can and bitch. So the joke still is, always was, and forever more will be on you. Don't make me slam the lid, Oscar.

Play kick the can

 

[John Connor]

Oh, you don't want to do that. I'll seek Big Bird on yo ass.

 

[TheVrolok]

Oh, you don't want to do that. I'll seek [sic] Big Bird on yo ass.

 

[buckshot24]

True. OTOH, he wasn't influenced by exhortations to violence by Sanders or Clinton. There is no equivalence between anything they said & Trump's words.

Just the nonsense that the GOP want children to starve, that they want people to die of cancer, and that they are all traitors and Russian stooges. The left demonizes the GOP constantly and unashamedly and you're going to get nuts like this taking action.

 

[Younigue]

Just the nonsense that the GOP want children to starve, that they want people to die of cancer, and that they are all traitors and Russian stooges. The left demonizes the GOP constantly and unashamedly and you're going to get nuts like this taking action.

All evidence points to them making it extremely difficult for starving children to thrive or for cancer patients to survive. Their policies are cruel, maybe they are demons.

The longer they support Trump, the more they look like traitors.

The Russian stuff... we'll see.

 

[Jhhnn]

Just the nonsense that the GOP want children to starve, that they want people to die of cancer, and that they are all traitors and Russian stooges. The left demonizes the GOP constantly and unashamedly and you're going to get nuts like this taking action.

That exaggeration is not the same as Trump's open exhortations to violence.

 

[highland145]

That is literally what Trump did. I'm sorry that you're uncomfortable with the notion.

He cleaned your twat?

TMI

 

[xthetenth]

He cleaned your twat?

TMI

Enriching himself at the taxpayers' expense is literally the only thing he's successfully done.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

I'm sorry but I have allergies to nuts.

Funny, you seem to spend a lot of time gargling your own...

 

[Paladin3]

Sorry about hitting that nerve highland, but I'll skip drawing you a map on how Trump's business fortunes have been boosted since Hillary lost. I do appreciate you deciding to pull the ultimate cop out of 'why didn't you vote then' though. It's foot-in-mouth maneuvers like that that save all of us a lot of time. Doesn't seem like you've gotten any smarter since the last time I bothered with you, but at least you seem to be in good spirits. Not letting the slow motion trainwreck in the White House get you down. Stiff upper lip! Atta boy.


Anyway, thought I'd come back and just drop this here for some added perspective:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=1

University of North Carolina Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer found that Islam-inspired terror attacks accounted for 50 deaths since 9/11, but that “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”

"Since 2000, the handout notes, 25 law enforcement officers have been killed by right-wing extremists, who share a “fear that government will confiscate firearms” and a “belief in the approaching collapse of government and the economy.”


And none of it produced what this shooting did among the right....go figure.

*note that the article is 2 years old though*

Yet folks on both ends of the political spectrum can't come together and decry all violence regardless of the target. Instead they spend all their time trying to prove the other side is more violent (wrong, stupid, misguided, racist, sexist, homophobic, fiscally irresponsible, morally corrupt, etc.) than the other side to win points. Like the actions of a few wack-jobs on either side represent everyone of that political belief.

You guys are so intent on the battle you don't even know what you are fighting for.

 

[ivwshane]

Yet folks on both ends of the political spectrum can't come together and decry all violence regardless of the target. Instead they spend all their time trying to prove the other side is more violent (wrong, stupid, misguided, racist, sexist, homophobic, fiscally irresponsible, morally corrupt, etc.) than the other side to win points. Like the actions of a few wack-jobs on either side represent everyone of that political belief.

You guys are so intent on the battle you don't even know what you are fighting for.

Sanity? Reality?

But who am I kidding? Both sides! Right? /s

 

[Paladin3]

Knowing people are actively working on a plan to take away the healthcare your family depends on is pretty powerful motivation.

But still not enough to justify shooting someone, right? Right??? You're not exaggerating to make a point and almost justify the shooting, are you? Are you???

 

[Victorian Gray]

Some good news. Doctors now expect a full recovery for Scalise.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/scalise-shot-baseball-upgrade-1.4166150

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

White people like to quote Dr. King Jr. a lot, apparently because they think he's useful to bludgeon "uppity" people upside the head with.

There's a quote of his they don't seem to like as much, though, and that is "riot is the language of the unheard."

What does this mean? It means even though the violence is wrong, it's understandable and perhaps inevitable when people have been pushed too far. If someone does shoot up a bunch of Senators over health care, while I won't condone it, I'll certainly understand it.

 

[senseamp]

Some good news. Doctors now expect a full recovery for Scalise.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/scalise-shot-baseball-upgrade-1.4166150

Good for him. Hopefully he had time and occasion to reflect on what's important.

 

[Jhhnn]

Good for him. Hopefully he had time and occasion to reflect on what's important.

Yup. He'll vote for tax cuts for billionaires if they have to wheel him in on a gurney.

 

[xthetenth]

White people like to quote Dr. King Jr. a lot, apparently because they think he's useful to bludgeon "uppity" people upside the head with.

There's a quote of his they don't seem to like as much, though, and that is "riot is the language of the unheard."

What does this mean? It means even though the violence is wrong, it's understandable and perhaps inevitable when people have been pushed too far. If someone does shoot up a bunch of Senators over health care, while I won't condone it, I'll certainly understand it.

It's depressing and hilarious to look at things like political cartoons that invoke MLK as a point of comparison to 'these horrid thugs these days and their rioting' and then go back to before he was assassinated and look at the cartoons where there is literally no difference between how he is depicted and how the people his legacy is invoked to discredit are portrayed these days.

It's super weird how MLK became popular once he got killed and white people got to recast him as justifiably aggrieved and they got to recast themselves as people who would most certainly have supported him because he's just so reasonable, you know?

Wait, no, that's not weird at all.

Yet folks on both ends of the political spectrum can't come together and decry all violence regardless of the target. Instead they spend all their time trying to prove the other side is more violent (wrong, stupid, misguided, racist, sexist, homophobic, fiscally irresponsible, morally corrupt, etc.) than the other side to win points. Like the actions of a few wack-jobs on either side represent everyone of that political belief.

You guys are so intent on the battle you don't even know what you are fighting for.

That's because we actually paid attention. We know for a goddamn fact that the right literally will not stop threatening and engaging in violence at an utterly disproportionate rate. They have no right whatsoever to go crying about both sides. Unless we drag some actual genuine repentance out of them, they'll just go right on back to ignoring what their guys do or justifying it to themselves. People who need to tell themselves they're oh so above it like the ending of a particularly imbecilic South Park episode are just enabling them to justify themselves.

Think about that when you're trying to tell yourself that your disengagement from reality and your willful ignorance is actually the virtue of being unbiased. All you're doing by claiming that both sides are the same is just giving the worse side a free pass. It's a good thing that your trendy disengagement gives you the basis to know that isn't justifying something truly awful, isn't it?

 

[senseamp]

Yup. He'll vote for tax cuts for billionaires if they have to wheel him in on a gurney.

Maybe as the butthurt flows through him, he'll reconsider.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Stuff like this is why Paladins are known as Lawful Stupid.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The right wants what they're not willing to give.