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soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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-MSNBC host Reid

Fighting for his life, and getting attacked. All too often, people think violence is warranted like this, that the person deserves it. Pretty pathetic, but not too uncommon sadly. People here have said other people deserved to die because they voted Trump before too.
Was this before or after Hannity & Newt calling liberals violent?
 

agent00f

Lifer
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this is just another case of play stupid games win stupid prizes.

When conservatives advocate for the 2nd amendment as a way to stop terrible government officials they all knew that people crafting policy to deny healthcare to millions and the like are the terrible ones. Cue fake indignation when their own advocacy comes true.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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Anyone seen the ad a republican PAC is running in the election down in Georgia? And they wonder why they're called deplorables.
 

xthetenth

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I'm pretty sure I saw it before they scraped it off the screen from a BM post, honestly.
 

Ackmed

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Was this before or after Hannity & Newt calling liberals violent?

I don't know, I don't watch either. What difference does it make? Looks like you're saying her comments are justified. If calling someone out deserves comments like that from an elected official, wow.

How about Democrat Devine who ran for mayor in Rahway, NJ who tweeted #huntgopcongressman and #huntrepublicans. Guess that's ok too. No, not at all violent. Don't condemn it though, go ahead and justify more violence like you already have.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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-MSNBC host Reid

Fighting for his life, and getting attacked. All too often, people think violence is warranted like this, that the person deserves it. Pretty pathetic, but not too uncommon sadly. People here have said other people deserved to die because they voted Trump before too.

I don't think you know what "getting attacked" means.
 

Younigue

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I don't know, I don't watch either. What difference does it make? Looks like you're saying her comments are justified. If calling someone out deserves comments like that from an elected official, wow.

How about Democrat Devine who ran for mayor in Rahway, NJ who tweeted #huntgopcongressman and #huntrepublicans. Guess that's ok too. No, not at all violent. Don't condemn it though, go ahead and justify more violence like you already have.
What is wrong with you? Of course that's not ok either.
 

davmat787

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I miss the gold 'ol days when right wing violence was cloaked in patriotism as fighting the good fight as God's soldiers against communism. Communism was a great catch all used that no one dared question. Too bad when opportunities such as Hungary/Budapest 1956 to confront USSR occupation of a country actively fighting the Soviets while asking for assistance from the US and UN both turned a blind eye.
 

HomerJS

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Which party ran a campaign calling for "2nd amendment remedies"?
Which party leader advocated for violence?
Which party leader said his base "wouldn't care if he shot someone in the street"?
 

buckshot24

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Which party ran a campaign calling for "2nd amendment remedies"?
Which party leader advocated for violence?
Which party leader said his base "wouldn't care if he shot someone in the street"?
What party was actually targeted and shot at because of their politics?
 

agent00f

Lifer
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What party was actually targeted and shot at because of their politics?

People who advocate for 2nd amendment solutions to government problems shouldn't be too surprised at the outcome when the problem with the government is them.
 

davmat787

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Which party ran a campaign calling for "2nd amendment remedies"?
Which party leader advocated for violence?
Which party leader said his base "wouldn't care if he shot someone in the street"?

So then what? The ballpark shooting is now justified based on what you're alluding to? Which then inevitably leads to a retaliation that is justified by not words spoken, but the shooting itself? If the answers to your questions justify shootings, the shootings have to then justify an escalation in violence right?

Those using shootings to score political points or thinks they're evident of the left or right as a whole should maybe think that instead they are evident of two sides of the same coin, they're a symptom of the same disease that is political extremism. Whether we self identity as being somewhere on the left, center, or right of the political spectrum we gotta have more common ground with each other than the extremists that think their violence is justified?
 

davmat787

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People who advocate for 2nd amendment solutions to government problems shouldn't be too surprised at the outcome when the problem with the government is them.

Back so soon from your break? Damn that both sucks and blows.

But doesn't the Constitution clearly provide justification for the 2nd as necessary for the citizens protection against a tyrannical government? Pointing out that fact as one reason to enjoy one's 2nd amendment rights is very different than thinking it justifies anything unless all legal options are exhausted. And since regular elections exist where these assholes could easily be replaced peacefully and legally yet too often get voted another term instead no one can justify political assassinations or violence of course.

We get the exact government we deserve.
 

davmat787

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Reply was somehow munged upon posting, don't care to retype it.
 
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agent00f

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So then what? The ballpark shooting is now justified based on what you're alluding to? Which then inevitably leads to a retaliation that is justified by not words spoken, but the shooting itself? If the answers to your questions justify shootings, the shootings have to then justify an escalation in violence right?

Those using shootings to score political points or thinks they're evident of the left or right as a whole should maybe think that instead they are evident of two sides of the same coin, they're a symptom of the same disease that is political extremism. Whether we self identity as being somewhere on the left, center, or right of the political spectrum we gotta have more common ground with each other than the extremists that think their violence is justified?
Back so soon from your break? Damn that both sucks and blows.

But doesn't the Constitution clearly provide justification for the 2nd as necessary for the citizens protection against a tyrannical government? Pointing out that fact as one reason to enjoy one's 2nd amendment rights is very different than thinking it justifies anything unless all legal options are exhausted. And since regular elections exist where these assholes could easily be replaced peacefully and legally yet too often get voted another term instead no one can justify political assassinations or violence of course.

We get the exact government we deserve.

Seems about right that conservatives got the 2nd amendment solution they wanted, and arguably deserved.

It's like someone advocating for cutting hands off to deter theft, and when they're caught stealing then pretend hand chopping is the worstest thing ever. Even worse than those people are the ones who then try to blame it all on the non-hand-chopping folks; those pieces of shit are truly the worst of the lot.
 

Jaskalas

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I think it's completely poetic when someone drops banana peels on the sidewalk for people to slip on and then slips on one themselves. Same as for people who argue that the 2nd amendment is for watering the tree of liberty and then someone agrees and takes that advice with them. Worst are those who then try to pretend the peel droppers are Real victims; they really are the most despicable human beings.

Worst are the banana peels, directly standing for political violence.
There are 16 posts from you on this topic, not once did you speak for the victim of the shooting. Not once did you speak of sorrow or regret that it happened. All throughout readers will find a gleeful tone as if justice has been served to "others". You frequently and strongly speak for victim blaming. I'm sorry, you are not a banana peel, you are rabies.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Worst are the banana peels, directly standing for political violence.
There are 16 posts from you on this topic, not once did you speak for the victim of the shooting. Not once did you speak of sorrow or regret that it happened. All throughout readers will find a gleeful tone as if justice has been served to "others". You frequently and strongly speak for victim blaming. I'm sorry, you are not a banana peel, you are rabies.

Case in point of said shits trying so very hard to blame this on anyone except their banana peel dropping peers, you know the REAL victims. Personally I find karmic divine justice to be most poetic.
 

davmat787

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Case in point of said shits trying so very hard to blame this on anyone except their banana peel dropping peers, you know the REAL victims. Personally I find karmic divine justice to be most poetic.

Ahh, I forgot you view any and all that fall under your definition as conservatives in an entirely monolithic manner that is totally devoid of nuance and intellectual honesty.

As Jaskalas brought up the issue of tribalism in the modern human and dehumanization it's so glaringly obvious you are utterly blind to it's effect on yourself, no doubt content to be wrapped in the psychological safety and warmth that your constant dehumanization of anyone that might be to the right of you. Much easier to think any and all violence against those is justified in advance. The Germans fell for the same trick with their propaganda suggesting the jews were subhuman and needed extermination like rats (like real imagery of rats used and overlayed in the propaganda films). Your falling for the mental ease of believing in the dehumanization and that it justifies worse, can't you see that?
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Ahh, I forgot you view any and all that fall under your definition as conservatives in an entirely monolithic manner that is totally devoid of nuance and intellectual honesty.

As Jaskalas brought up the issue of tribalism in the modern human and dehumanization it's so glaringly obvious you are utterly blind to it's effect on yourself, no doubt content to be wrapped in the psychological safety and warmth that your constant dehumanization of anyone that might be to the right of you. Much easier to think any and all violence against those is justified in advance. The Germans fell for the same trick with their propaganda suggesting the jews were subhuman and needed extermination like rats (like real imagery of rats used and overlayed in the propaganda films). Your falling for the mental ease of believing in the dehumanization and that it justifies worse, can't you see that?


Jaskalas (and presumably yourself) has been doing a bang up job of protecting self-avowed race realists (everyone else are the Real racists), the liberty tree watering people (the non-shooty folks are the Real violence fans), and the list goes on including the full spectrum of right wing peers which makes the hitler ref all the more hilariously dishonest. If divine karma were truly just, what would you say is in store for him and yourself?
 

davmat787

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Jaskalas (and presumably yourself) has been doing a bang up job of protecting self-avowed race realists (everyone else are the Real racists), the liberty tree watering people (the non-shooty folks are the Real violence fan), and the list goes on. If divine karma were truly just, what would you say is in store for him and yourself?

WTF is wrong with you to equate anything I've said as evidence of my defending "self-avowed race realists" (your words not mine) Seriously motherfucker explain exactly how you can logically use anything I've said is evident of what you are saying? Why even quote my post when your reply has nothing to do with it or the question I posed to you?
 
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