Shoud I Defragment drive?

ssoni223

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I've been running the same win2k BUILD for almost 2 years now, and have never defregged.
I do notice the drive speed degrading...Should I defrag? Or is this hype?
If so, what app should I use? Thanks
 

amdskip

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Run the analyzer and see what it says. I'd say yes though. Some people defrag at least once a week, I do it once a month or so.
 

crisp82

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It all depends on just how much you move the contents of your drive. Every time you install a game/program etc it would be a good idea to defrag. It will help speed up the data seek time.
 

Mitzi

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Ideally a 3rd party utility such as Diskeeper 7 is best but if you don't want to spend any cash just try out the built in defragger (Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Disk Defrag)
 

hjo3

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> Every time you install a game/program etc it would be a good idea to defrag.

Seems excessive. If you leave your computer on all the time like I do, just set the task scheduler to defrag all your hard drives every, say, third Tuesday at 4:00 am.

It's not all "hype." Where would anybody get that idea? Also, 3rd party defragmenters shouldn't do a significantly better job at moving clusters around than the standard Windows util. Don't waste your money.
 

crisp82

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Use the standard XP defrag. With most games nowadays being in excess of 1gb, and files from program constantly being placed in the Windows folder, it is a good idea to keep on top of it. Plus, how often do u install a new game? Every 3 weeks?Not really excessive at all.
 

hjo3

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> Use the standard XP defrag.

Probably not a good idea since he's running Windows 2000...
I see what you mean about the frequency; I just happen to install stuff much more often I guess. If I defragged after every program install, I'd never be able to use my computer. A better rule of thumb might be, like, defrag after every move/copy of 3% the size of your disk/partition or something.
 

PolymerTim

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Yeah, whether or not defrag will really help depends a lot on how fragmented your files are. That depends on the average size of your files and how often you move them around. So if you install a lot of games or programs or work with files larger than like 10MB on a regular basis then you should probably defrag on a regular basis. If you have a lot of free-space on the hard drive, then you probably won't need to defrag as often.

As far as commercial defragmenters vs windows built-in, I've noticed the better ones do one thing different that may help out. A lot of times they not only defragment files, group files with their repsective programs, and put more commonly used files at the head of the disk where data transfers faster (all this the windows built-in defragger does), but they also set aside extra free-space for new files associated with some programs. I don't know how accurate this is, but if it works, then when you use a program to create a data file, then there would probably be a space for that data file not too far from the program file. That may mean that your data files are less likely to be fragmented in the first place and you wouldn't have to run defrag as often. Like I said, that is ideally. Personally I would just use the Windows built-in defragger. If your not sure then have it analyze every now and then to see if you need it. The average user I would guess should do it about once every 3-6 months. You probably won't notice any difference if you do it this often, but it keeps things from getting worse.

Remeber, if you're running out of disk space, you should probably run defrag more often, but then defrag takes a lot longer to run if you have too little space. I think the WinXP defragger won't even let you defrag if you hav less thatn 10% free.
 

ssoni223

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Thanks for the simple, basic advice of running Win2k's native DiskDefrag.

My 5GB c:\ is almost ALL red, and needs defragging, but there is not enough space!
It's a 5BG partition, w/ 1.5GB free, 27% free, but only 4% usable!
I really don't know how I can clean my c:\ b/c all files and apps are installed on my D:\ partition

Thanks
 

crisp82

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crisp... i say amen to ur quote... ahaha. GIrls are EViL!
That they are

try runnning disk clean up, then un-installing any programs u don't use any longer. This should free up enought space for a defrag.
 

PolymerTim

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Well, I don't knwo how many partitions you have, how much each one is filled, and how mouch you can movce around, but if you have 27% free space on a partition you should be able to defrag it. I don't know what you mean by usable space. I'm looking at the WinXP defrag (which I believe is basically the same as in Win2000) and I don't see anything about usable space. Sometimes you will recover a small amount of space after defragging, but it's usually not significant on modern hard drives.
 

hjo3

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It could be that his paging file is occupying a large amount of that 27%. He could prolly just set it to a fixed smaller size or move it to the D: partition.
 

hjo3

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In Win 2K, R-click My Computer, select Properties. Click the Advanced tab, then Performance Options, then the Change button. That's where you can control the settings for virtual memory.
EDIT: By the way, if you're reinstalling Windows 2000 every 6 months, there's something very wrong.
 

Goi

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Originally posted by: Mitzi
Ideally a 3rd party utility such as Diskeeper 7 is best but if you don't want to spend any cash just try out the built in defragger (Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Disk Defrag)

Diskeeper 8 is out btw
 
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