Should 8 year old girls be allowed to wear shorts with writing on the bottom? am I in the wrong for thinking that

[OCNewbie]

I was eating at a pizza restaurant the other night, and I first noticed this. Lots of girls under the age of 10, was some kinda little gymnast crew. Lots of these little girls had words across their relatively short shorts on their butts. I thought it was a little odd to bring attention (via reading of the words) to the little girls bottoms. If I had a daughter I don't think I'd allow her to wear those types of shorts.

 

[bootymac]

No. And their moms shouldn't be wearing them either :disgust:

 

[0roo0roo]

cute and humiliating ways to dress your child while you have total power over them? of course!!
sexual? i don't think so.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: notfred
Who the hell cares, it's not like it's sexual. Do you think 8 year olds shouldn't be allwoed to go swimming because they don't wear enough clothes?

Hell, let's put a gstring on them and let them go swimming. Nothing wrong with that, right. If you think that is wrong, who the hell cares, it's not sexual, its just a bathing suit.

KK

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
cute and humiliating ways to dress your child while you have total power over them? of course!!
sexual? i don't think so.

I hate the skimpy clothing and the crappy Anne Geddes stuff equally.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Citrix
My two daughters are into cheerleading and they have shorts with the word 'CHEER' across the butt. Whats wrong with that?

now if it said something stupid like "princess" or "hott" now way in hell would we let them wear it.

As far as drawing attention to their butt, how is that any different than writing across the chest?

I have a pair of swim trunks with the Colorado Rockies theme on them. they have "Rockies" written across the butt.

The front of shirts is a natural place for text; if clothing is going to have text, it has to go somewhere. Both mens & womens clothing commonly features it there. Plus everyone has a rear end but 8 y/o girls don't have breasts. Certainly isn't my place to tell you how to raise your kids, but I'll say I'm saddened that a parent intelligent enough to use the internet & post on ATOT (which, despite often appearing to the contrary, does have mostly intelligent members). While it doesn't make it ok, it's at least to be expected from 80-90 IQ folks living in trailers and such. Now be sure to get mad at me and send your daughter to school in a g-string out of spite :roll:

 

[nan0bug]

If it said something sexually provocative, then I would have a problem with it. If it just said 'swim', then no, I don't see a problem with it at all. If writing across the butt of a 10 year old's shorts makes you think sexual thoughts then I think theres a lot more wrong with you than with her parents.

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Citrix
My two daughters are into cheerleading and they have shorts with the word 'CHEER' across the butt. Whats wrong with that?

now if it said something stupid like "princess" or "hott" now way in hell would we let them wear it.

As far as drawing attention to their butt, how is that any different than writing across the chest?

I have a pair of swim trunks with the Colorado Rockies theme on them. they have "Rockies" written across the butt.

The front of shirts is a natural place for text; if clothing is going to have text, it has to go somewhere. Both mens & womens clothing commonly features it there. Plus everyone has a rear end but 8 y/o girls don't have breasts. Certainly isn't my place to tell you how to raise your kids, but I'll say I'm saddened that a parent intelligent enough to use the internet & post on ATOT (which, despite often appearing to the contrary, does have mostly intelligent members). While it doesn't make it ok, it's at least to be expected from 80-90 IQ folks living in trailers and such. Now be sure to get mad at me and send your daughter to school in a g-string out of spite :roll:

Why is the front of a shirt a "natural" place to have text, yet not the back of shorts? If you must have text on a shirt, why can't it be on the back of the shirt, or on the sleeves? The fact is, the only reason the front of a shirt seems like a "natural" place to have text is because it's such a widespread practice. Purposely drawing attention to provocative areas, whether developed or not, is inappropriate for young children.

What needs to be considered is intent. When there are text, logos, or designs on the front of a shirt, the purpose is to make the shirt more aethestically pleasing or to promote the brand. The purpose is not to draw attention to a provocative area. Placing a patch or pattern on the back pocket of a pair of shorts usually serves an aethestics/promotional purpose. Thus I feel that text, logos, and/or designs on clothing must be evaluated on a case-by-case based on intent, and the ramifications of such text, logos, and/or designs.

In the specific case of a pair of shorts with the word "swim" on it, it seems the intent is quite innocent. However, I would never let my child wear such a pair of shorts because the side-effect of such text is to draw unwanted attention to an inappropriate area. This same logic should also apply to shirts with texts on the front. But as I previously mentioned, this is such a widespread practice that it has rendered the side-effect (drawing attention to the chest area) to be seemingly innocuous to me. If placing text on the back of shorts becomes a widely adopted practice, I'm sure that in time it will become a non-issue. After all, there was a time when women weren't allowed to show any part of their legs, yet today I never hear anyone having issues with women wearing shorts.

dfi

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Citrix
My two daughters are into cheerleading and they have shorts with the word 'CHEER' across the butt. Whats wrong with that?

now if it said something stupid like "princess" or "hott" now way in hell would we let them wear it.

As far as drawing attention to their butt, how is that any different than writing across the chest?

I have a pair of swim trunks with the Colorado Rockies theme on them. they have "Rockies" written across the butt.

pics of ur daughters butts, plz.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Anything that draws someone's eyes to the ass of your 8 year old is fvcked up.

 

[halik]

It's very odd to have an 8 year old with writing on her ass.... why would you wanna draw attention to that region anyway?

It's lot more of an innuendo or implied idea than anything else. Exactly what kinda message are those things sending anyway?

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Anything that draws someone's eyes to the ass of your 8 year old is fvcked up.

probably the best way to put it....

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Gurck
I don't like it, but the girl's mother sounds like a fine piece of trailer trash, so what else is to be expected? A solid 3/4 of those of you who think it's ok will likely change your mind by the time you're 25, and the rest will when/if you have kids, btw

I think that about sums my feelings up on the matter as well.

Its not really my place to impose limits on this, nor do I feel it should be. But if I have a little girl, she isn't wearing that sh|t.

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Citrix
My two daughters are into cheerleading and they have shorts with the word 'CHEER' across the butt. Whats wrong with that?

now if it said something stupid like "princess" or "hott" now way in hell would we let them wear it.

As far as drawing attention to their butt, how is that any different than writing across the chest?

I have a pair of swim trunks with the Colorado Rockies theme on them. they have "Rockies" written across the butt.

The front of shirts is a natural place for text; if clothing is going to have text, it has to go somewhere. Both mens & womens clothing commonly features it there. Plus everyone has a rear end but 8 y/o girls don't have breasts. Certainly isn't my place to tell you how to raise your kids, but I'll say I'm saddened that a parent intelligent enough to use the internet & post on ATOT (which, despite often appearing to the contrary, does have mostly intelligent members). While it doesn't make it ok, it's at least to be expected from 80-90 IQ folks living in trailers and such. Now be sure to get mad at me and send your daughter to school in a g-string out of spite :roll:

I agree with this man, and feel great sadness in what Citrix has posted here today. Use your head man.

<eadit> Why don't you have some words or logo embroidered right on the crotch area of your girls' shorts? That would be cool.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: dfi
Why is the front of a shirt a "natural" place to have text, yet not the back of shorts? If you must have text on a shirt, why can't it be on the back of the shirt, or on the sleeves? The fact is, the only reason the front of a shirt seems like a "natural" place to have text is because it's such a widespread practice. Purposely drawing attention to provocative areas, whether developed or not, is inappropriate for young children.

What needs to be considered is intent. When there are text, logos, or designs on the front of a shirt, the purpose is to make the shirt more aethestically pleasing or to promote the brand. The purpose is not to draw attention to a provocative area. Placing a patch or pattern on the back pocket of a pair of shorts usually serves an aethestics/promotional purpose. Thus I feel that text, logos, and/or designs on clothing must be evaluated on a case-by-case based on intent, and the ramifications of such text, logos, and/or designs.

In the specific case of a pair of shorts with the word "swim" on it, it seems the intent is quite innocent. However, I would never let my child wear such a pair of shorts because the side-effect of such text is to draw unwanted attention to an inappropriate area. This same logic should also apply to shirts with texts on the front. But as I previously mentioned, this is such a widespread practice that it has rendered the side-effect (drawing attention to the chest area) to be seemingly innocuous to me. If placing text on the back of shorts becomes a widely adopted practice, I'm sure that in time it will become a non-issue. After all, there was a time when women weren't allowed to show any part of their legs, yet today I never hear anyone having issues with women wearing shorts.

dfi

Excellent post and I agree for the most part, however I could see companies and or parents letting it become mainstream with older teenagers and then trickle down to the younger groups, while some say this has been a common practice for a while (putting words on the back of shorts) personally I have not seen it, never saw it while I was in college only a few years ago and only recently does it seem to have come into vogue, with the shorts comment, I think there are some that are still far too short for certain ages, and some which are too short for any age (mostly the people who shouldn't be wearing them usually do though)...also in response to the person who said someone has problems if they are looking, honestly you cannot help it because the writing is so large and catches your attention, I would have noticed it no matter who it was on and instantly your attention is drawn to that area..

 

[dman]

Originally posted by: bozack

am I just being an old fuddie duddie or does anyone else see a problem with this, should we really be trying to get people to look at the asses of 8 year olds?

sorry just my rant.

Agreed. But, the kids would find other crap to wear that could be worse.

 

[Grey]

I am so glad I am not the only one who was disturbed by this trend. Swim is benign but the other ones with sweety, hott and others on there just cross the line in poor taste.

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: nan0bug
If it said something sexually provocative, then I would have a problem with it. If it just said 'swim', then no, I don't see a problem with it at all. If writing across the butt of a 10 year old's shorts makes you think sexual thoughts then I think theres a lot more wrong with you than with her parents.

Exactly what I was going to say!

 

[EngenZerO]

let other people raise their kids they way they want. you should just focus on your own kids (if you have any).

 

[CRXican]

Got in on this thread a little late but I think only girls 18 and over should be allowed to wear such shorts. I don't know that I've ever seen an 8-10 year old in these shorts but the 13-17 year old range for sure. Damn jailbait is a horrible temptation and I wonder if half of these girls even have parents cause I know my daughter will not be going out looking like a damn whore. It's rather disturbing cause I feel guilty knowing I'm staring at underage girls.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
how is the word "swim" sexually provocative in any way?

I don't think it's the word as much as it's the locatoin IMO. I think it draws people's eyes to the ass end of a girl whose ass you shouldn't be looking at. If I was a mother I wouldn't want people's attention to be drawn towards the butt of my 10 year old daughter. I am an old fuddie duddie though.


: ) Amanda

Nail on head!

 

[StageLeft]

Doesn't bug me that much, but it better not say FLIRT or BOY TOY on it.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

My point is who are you to impose your idea of decency on someone you don't personally know?

What would my knowing them have anything to do with the question at hand?...so basically you think that guys should be encouraged to check out the asses of 8 year old girls from your stance on the subject....

Would my knowing them make any kind of a difference? personally I think not. again I don't know who I am more upset with, the manufacturers for marketing to such a market, or the idiot parents who would allow their children to wear such an item....

I have no problem with good morals, nor with good parenting. Just with people who feel that their morals must be imposed on others.

Are you an anarchist?

Society, by definition, is the collection of common morals(and other things) we impose on eachother. These are often, but not always, fashioned into law. Granted this topic is not a lawful discussion, but your response is off base. Everyone in the society has the right to say what is moral and what isn't. Otherwise we would never agree on basic things such as laws. Laws are just forced moralities with consequences if you misbehave.

 

[Night201]

I agree. My friend commented on this a few months ago at a mall. We were like, "WTF"?

 

[lokiju]

I vote yes because it?s no different IMO than writing across the chest of a shirt.

I don't look at writing on clothes and think of anything sexually related.