Should Christians be eating kosher food?

madeupfacts

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My new found Jewish friend told me that since I'm christian, and my religion stems from his, I should only be eating Kosher food. Is that true?
 

Jassi

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
Makes sense, though..

No it doesn't. The argument is simplistic at best. And kosher food is still food, it is not limited to just Jews, its just certified to be compatible with their dietary requirements.
 

Miramonti

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Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")
 

BMdoobieW

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Originally posted by: madeupfacts
My new found Jewish friend told me that since I'm christian, and my religion stems from his, I should only be eating Kosher food. Is that true?

Only Jews are required to eat kosher food. The only way that you, as a non-Jew, would need to eat kosher food, is if you researched your past and found out that you were in fact still Jewish. Since that is unlikely and near impossible to find out, go hog wild with the pork, man!
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: madeupfacts
My new found Jewish friend told me that since I'm christian, and my religion stems from his, I should only be eating Kosher food. Is that true?
should Muslims eat Christian food? All three religions stemmed from each other, shouldn't all three eat the same things?
 

BMdoobieW

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

How could some guy change what G-d very clearly said? Doesn't make any sense...
 

BMdoobieW

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: madeupfacts
My new found Jewish friend told me that since I'm christian, and my religion stems from his, I should only be eating Kosher food. Is that true?
should Muslims eat Christian food? All three religions stemmed from each other, shouldn't all three eat the same things?

No. Only Jews have to keep the 613 commandments. Non-Jews only have to keep seven pretty simple laws:

1. Do not murder.
2. Do not steal.
3. Do not worship false gods.
4. Do not be sexually immoral.
5. Do not eat a limb removed from a live animal.
6. Do not curse God.
7. Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.
 

lozina

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It's really kind of hard to avoid Koshered foods in the US. But in general I think they are probably better quality anyway, right? This Kosher deli near where I work hasmuch better quality food than the other 'normal' delis. Yeah that's pretty anecdotal ...
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: madeupfacts
My new found Jewish friend told me that since I'm christian, and my religion stems from his, I should only be eating Kosher food. Is that true?
your friend sounds like a tard.

oh, and birds of a feather flock together.

 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: jjsole
Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

How could some guy change what G-d very clearly said? Doesn't make any sense...

christians believe that every rule laid down in the new testament is from god, even if he isnt quoted as directly saying it.

are you jewish *and* that clueless about christianity? i thought it was common enough knowledge that christians and jews dont have the same beliefs
 

DainBramaged

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According to the New Testement, Christians are no longer under the laws that governed the Jewish people during the Old Testement.

Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: madeupfacts
My new found Jewish friend told me that since I'm christian, and my religion stems from his, I should only be eating Kosher food. Is that true?
should Muslims eat Christian food? All three religions stemmed from each other, shouldn't all three eat the same things?

No. Only Jews have to keep the 613 commandments. Non-Jews only have to keep seven pretty simple laws:

1. Do not murder.
2. Do not steal.
3. Do not worship false gods.
4. Do not be sexually immoral.
5. Do not eat a limb removed from a live animal.
6. Do not curse God.
7. Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.

And if you really want to make it even more concise, Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, strength, and do unto others as you would have them do to you.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: jjsole
Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

How could some guy change what G-d very clearly said? Doesn't make any sense...

Jesus is God... he changed his mind, duh!
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: jjsole
Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

How could some guy change what G-d very clearly said? Doesn't make any sense...

I agree.... Jesus was a Jew that observed the law. None of the gospels contradict that. Paul, who was never around when Jesus was on earth, wrote 2/3 of the NT and is the one saying eat what you want. I never saw once in the Bible where Jesus said that. Paul supposedly got all his materials because he saw a vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus.

Anyway, Jews & Muslims don't eat pork.... but, Kosher law is a little more stringent that what Muslims follow (Halal) (can't mix meat & dairy, etc...).
 

Siddhartha

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Paul's church broke away from alot of the Jewish LAW and made Christianity more Roman than Jewish.

Would Jesus, a Jew, approve of this?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: jjsole
Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

How could some guy change what G-d very clearly said? Doesn't make any sense...


Jesus = God
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: jjsole
Mark 7:19: For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

How could some guy change what G-d very clearly said? Doesn't make any sense...


Jesus = God

Anyone who calls Jesus "some guy" really doesnt belong in a discussion involving the intricacies of religious laws.
 

sandorski

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Depends really. If a Christian is going to base his Faith largely on the Old Testament, then perhaps he/she should also eat Kosher food. Christians have a problem with picking and choosing what parts to follow and which not to, which is why I bbelieve every Christian should rip the Old Testament from their Bibles as it offers little other than context to Christianity. If they really want to follow Christ, rip out everything beyond the 4 Gospels as well. The Words/Teachings of Jesus are the most important and only essential part of the Bible for the Christian. Like the most influential Christian Pastor of my life used to say to everyone all the time, "It's Jesus!".

Certainly Paul and others add some context to things, but their context pertains mostly to clarifying the change for Jews and the Gentiles of the time, helping them to understand the differences between what they used to Believe and what they came to accept in Christianity. For Jews it had to do with Old Testament Laws, especially whether they were required of Gentiles to follow. For many of the Gentiles(Greeks especially) it was the clarification of certain concepts such as Love. Greeks tended to equate "Love" with Sex, so when they sought to Love as Christians, they started having Sex with everybody and anybody, not quite what Jesus had in mind.

This can also be shown specifically when Paul deals with Women wearing Head Coverings or eating Meat Sacrificed to other gods. There are no hard Rules in Christianity concerning either. Paul explains that if someone can go without Women covering their heads and/or eat meat sacrificed to other gods, then it is ok for them, for their conscience is clear, but if their consciences makes them feel Guilty for not Covering their heads(for women) or eating meat sacrificed to animals, then they should do what clears their conscience. It is not because God requires them to do so, but that they require themselves to. At the same time as all these differences exist, Others are not to Judge, belittle, or even try to force those doing things differently then them to conform. If you know that Joe doesn't eat Pork, when he comes to dinner, don't friggin serve Pork! It was all about Diversity and Respect of that Diversity.

Unfortunetly, especially amongst the Literalist crowd, often these things get lost in translation. Issues such as Head Covering for women become big issues of adhering to the Scripture or anything with any possible connection to another god(from statutes to Music) becomes the bubbub when there is no reason for it at all. Most of the non-Gospel books of the New testament were very time specific writings and make little sense, or should I say, made the most sense for those people to whom they were addressed to. There are certainly a few gems in there, Like 1 Cor 13, but even that can be gleened by reading the 4 Gospels exclusively.
 
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