should HBO have waited for GRRM to finish writing Game of Thrones before filming?

brainhulk

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I haven't been enjoying this asterik season as much. Always in the back of my head, what would GRRM do?
 

Jeeebus

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Let's see. Make a shit ton of money now or defer until some unspecified time in the future and hope to make the same shit ton of money then.

Yup, hard decision.
 

Sonikku

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They can always go the full metal alchemist route and redo the second half of the show different some years down the road. People will watch it because GoT.
 

gorcorps

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They can always go the full metal alchemist route and redo the second half of the show different some years down the road. People will watch it because GoT.

Yup, that's what I figure... though I don't watch GoT at all so my opinion may not mean much. I imagine they can do the show at their own pace now, then if Martin finishes the series they can go back and re-do the book versions. The only problem is by the time that's all done they'd probably need a whole new cast.

IMO Martin won't live long enough to finish the series anyway, so it may not even matter.
 

Drako

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Based on the quality of books 4 and 5 compared to the previous 3 books, a big hell no.
 

Squisher

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They can always go the full metal alchemist route and redo the second half of the show different some years down the road. People will watch it because GoT.

Rather than director's cut it'll be writer's cut.

The thing is The TV show has already gone off the story line.
 

Sonikku

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Tyrion doesn't seem to have the presence he used to have. I usually root for Arya these days.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Given the quality of the storytelling and writing, yes. Since they've lost the books things have turned to shit and it gets dumber and dumber every week. It's quickly becoming as bad as Lost.

But no, HBO had no choice. They can't put the series on hiatus until 2025 when hopefully GRRM will have the series finished. They're going to have to trust to the stupidity of the average viewer and hope that most of the viewers won't notice or care how ridiculous things are getting.
 

Artorias

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Given the quality of the storytelling and writing, yes. Since they've lost the books things have turned to shit and it gets dumber and dumber every week. It's quickly becoming as bad as Lost.

But no, HBO had no choice. They can't put the series on hiatus until 2025 when hopefully GRRM will have the series finished. They're going to have to trust to the stupidity of the average viewer and hope that most of the viewers won't notice or care how ridiculous things are getting.

HBO should just pay GRRM to get in a room with the show producers for a month and have them work on a script. GRRM could then ah heck off and do as he please for the rest of his life.
 

clamum

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game of thrones is boring af

there is no character worth caring about

Tyrion
Arya
Jamie
Littlefinger (oddly enough)
Jon Snow
Ser Davos
Lord Varys
Theon
Ramsay (I care that he dies a slow, painful death, and it will be glorious)
Daenerys (obligatory, y helo thar)
 

Sonikku

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Given the quality of the storytelling and writing, yes. Since they've lost the books things have turned to shit and it gets dumber and dumber every week. It's quickly becoming as bad as Lost.

But no, HBO had no choice. They can't put the series on hiatus until 2025 when hopefully GRRM will have the series finished. They're going to have to trust to the stupidity of the average viewer and hope that most of the viewers won't notice or care how ridiculous things are getting.

I think you're giving the books too much credit. Up to book three it's phenomenal. But the diminishing returns after are readily apparent. The last book hardly knocks your socks off. If that is the material the show was basing itself off one could argue the Martin jumped the shark before the show did.
 

sactoking

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I would have liked the books to be done before the show. I understand the decision to not wait. It just means that I can't watch the show any more.
 

dainthomas

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I think you're giving the books too much credit. Up to book three it's phenomenal. But the diminishing returns after are readily apparent. The last book hardly knocks your socks off. If that is the material the show was basing itself off one could argue the Martin jumped the shark before the show did.

Dorne was much better in the books.

I couldn't stomach watching another episode after that fiasco in episode 1.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I think you're giving the books too much credit. Up to book three it's phenomenal. But the diminishing returns after are readily apparent. The last book hardly knocks your socks off. If that is the material the show was basing itself off one could argue the Martin jumped the shark before the show did.

I completely agree that AFFC and ADWD were a big step down compared to the brilliance of the first three books. GRRM admits that he had a problem with the characters being too spread out and that he needed to start moving the pieces around the board to get them gathered, so the pacing suffered. Not a whole lot happened and a lot of the time the story didn't progress very much. It was bloated and meandering and the two books should have been pared down into one decent book rather than two sub-par books. But it all made sense. The characters acted, for lack of better phrasing, in character. They all had their own motivations, their own agendas and their own world views and they stayed true to themselves.

Now they've gone off the rails. The story is moving forward in places, but none of the characters are acting in their own best interests. They've all lost their reasons for their actions and it seems like they're just doing things randomly because that's how they're being written. Each week the characters do things that are stupidly out of character and the following week they do things that are even dumber because the writers are trying to scramble themselves out of the corners they keep painting themselves into with the original dumb things.
 

alien42

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Odd thing to say. Nearly everyone I know who watches one also watches the other as well

i find the exact opposite to be true, most people i know watch GoT and none of them watch BBT.

personally, i have been enjoying this season of GoT.
 
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