Should I be concerned about my friends who regularly use marijuana?

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Old Hippie

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I had a friend who smoked pot. After about two years he moved over to other stuff with his last being Heroin. He was caught by the police and sent to rehab. Was in rehab for about a year. Seven months ago he died from an OD. All drugs are bad. Those who say pot isn't bad are morons. Those who use pot are morons. It's a gateway drug and anyone who uses it gets no respect from me.

And this response is exactly why the USA can't/won't move into the 21st century.
 

NatePo717

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: NatePo717
All drugs are bad.

Have you ever taken aspirin any other headache pill? Have you ever had a drink of alcohol? Ever taken cold or allergy medication? Ever taken a sleeping pill? Ever smoked a cigarette? Ever had a prescription for something? Cough medicine?

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then you are a hypocrite.

Let me clear something up. When I refer to drugs I'm referring to narcotics. Drugs taken for no purpose other then for fun, to get high, take your mind off reality, etc. If it's for a medical purpose I don't have a problem with it.
 

TheGizmo

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: alien42
i have had plenty of friends who smoked pot every day for years (more like 5 years and up) and there is nothing wrong with them. they hold good jobs, live normal lives and are still more intelligent than your avg person.

I don't mean to be an a-hole, but what kind of jobs do they have? Salaried professional jobs (engineer, etc), or hourly positions? And does their intelligence extend beyond quoting liberal propaganda, legaleze about legalizing marijuana, and quoting Nietzsche Hunter Thompson, Kerouac, and Timothy Leary? In my experience, that sums up the pot smokers I know.

i know recreational drug users that are business execs, programmers, engineers, lawyers, physicists, a few that work on wall street.....

so yea people smoke and do just fine, in reality its no different then drinking other then the Govt made it illegal

The way I see it is, in reality it's an illegal drug that society associates (right or wrong) with losers. I think whether you smoke or not says alot about your character. But then, I'm very judgemental.

Who cares what society associates something with. Society as a whole is pretty stupid IMO.

What exactly does it say about your character? I don't think it has anything to do with your character. Don't play into stereotypes.

To me (and I won't apologize for my opinion), it just doesn't tell me that you have a very high moral character. More than likely (and I don't want to take the time to find out if you're the exception), it says that you don't have your life together. It says that your interests are in getting a manufactured high, which is usually exhibited in people of low-economic, low-education, or low-social status (which includes alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, or any other methods of acheiving a high). I'm sure it's possible for some to do drugs, or be an alcoholic, and maintain a "normal" life, but I'm speaking generally (you might call it stereotypes).

Like it or not, you will be judged by societal steroetypes your whole life. If I see a huge guy wearing a biker jacket, with a shaved head, tattoos, and a long goatee walking towards me on the sidewalk, I'm not going to look him in the eye, in fear of making him angry. Now, I know it's possible he's a sweet teddy bear, but most poeple who look like that are pretty mean and tough, so I have to assume he is too. If he is really nice, I would have to ask him why he wants to look mean, and have people judge him like that. Sure, his answer could be, "Because stereotypes suck, and I'm showing that you can look like this and be nice." But I think that is cutting off your nose to spite your face. The reality is, people are going to think of you differently. Now you're thinking, "Well, those are the a-holes I don't want to associate with anyway!" And that's probably the case, which is why most biker guys hang out with other biker guys, and why pot smokers hang out with other pot smokers. You want to justify your actions, and associate with those who accept you, despite your actions. Some day you'll want a job, or will meet your girlfriends parents, or will need something from an average member of the evil insitution you call "society", and you'll regret whatever it is you did to rebel against society. My finacee's brother is covered in tattoos. He said, "I don't give a fvck what people think about me." Until he needed a job. Now he's got a baby on the way, and makes $10/hr, because no one will hire him. Real smart. If society is so stupid, why not tell everyone you meet that you smoke pot? Because you don't want them to think less of you.

I don't know if any of this makes sense. I just started typing without thought. Sorry.
Hey dude, good luck living your life trying to please others. I don't think you are as much a judgemental prick as you are a total conformist. Hey I know what it's like, I tried your way and it totally sucked, but then that's me and I couldn't continue to live that way. You are probably happy with the way you are and thats cool, to each their own but you lecturing others how they should live smacks of you trying to justify your own lifestyle.

BTW I don't smoke dope or take any other illegal drugs mainly because I prefer to go through life with a clear head which is needed to deal with people like you.

QFT, what an ass he is
 

Old Hippie

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When I refer to drugs I'm referring to narcotics. Drugs taken for no purpose other then for fun, to get high, take your mind off reality, etc. If it's for a medical purpose I don't have a problem with it.

Soo Nate, I'm assuming that alcohol is a "No No" too?
 

ch33zw1z

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Originally posted by: NatePo717
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: NatePo717
All drugs are bad.

Have you ever taken aspirin any other headache pill? Have you ever had a drink of alcohol? Ever taken cold or allergy medication? Ever taken a sleeping pill? Ever smoked a cigarette? Ever had a prescription for something? Cough medicine?

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then you are a hypocrite.

Let me clear something up. When I refer to drugs I'm referring to narcotics. Drugs taken for no purpose other then for fun, to get high, take your mind off reality, etc. If it's for a medical purpose I don't have a problem with it.

Medical use: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5441

So how would you address the states that have put in place medical marijuana programs? It does benefit many people, and many diseases and ailments are relieved (not cured, just like any other chemical you ingest, perscrip or not)
 

mobobuff

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I have friends that smoke pot, they're easily separated into two groups (not by me, these are the reasons they gave).

1. Those who smoke to repress bad memories.
2. Those who smoke because their friends do.

There's a third group, but I've dismissed it as BS.

3. Those who smoke to "open their minds."

Edit: And about your concerns, I would say just leave it be and don't get too worried. Everyone I know who smokes pot lives a relatively normal life, and it doesn't interfere with their social relations.
 

skyking

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stop worrying/getting in their business
IMHO, they have to sort it out them self just like alcohol addiction.
if you are a real friend, be supportive and stay in touch. If they get to a point and need some help, they will remember your open minded steadfast behavior and might ask you.
 

Phokus

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Should I be concerned about my friends who regularly use marijuana?

Yes, they've turned into vampires already. Throw holy water on them before it's too late. :laugh:
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: mobobuff
I have friends that smoke pot, they're easily separated into two groups (not by me, these are the reasons they gave).

1. Those who smoke to repress bad memories.
2. Those who smoke because their friends do.

There's a third group, but I've dismissed it as BS.

3. Those who smoke to "open their minds."

Edit: And about your concerns, I would say just leave it be and don't get too worried. Everyone I know who smokes pot lives a relatively normal life, and it doesn't interfere with their social relations.


Can't you say the same about people who drink? And what about the group of people who drink/smoke because it makes them feel good?

It seems like there's a lot of non-thinkers in here that take the government's word for everything. Pot is bad because it's illegal. Alcohol is ok because it's legal. If alcohol is banned, that's ok because it's bad. It's illegal because it's bad, and it's bad because it's illegal.

Here's a tip: Don't let a government define your sense of morality, especially when there's a profit motive behind it.
 

2Xtreme21

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Didn't read the thread, but archcommus, where on campus do they find a good place to smoke? Been trying to look forever since they put damn security guards in at Bouquet.
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: Rob9874
Originally posted by: alien42
i have had plenty of friends who smoked pot every day for years (more like 5 years and up) and there is nothing wrong with them. they hold good jobs, live normal lives and are still more intelligent than your avg person.

I don't mean to be an a-hole, but what kind of jobs do they have? Salaried professional jobs (engineer, etc), or hourly positions? And does their intelligence extend beyond quoting liberal propaganda, legaleze about legalizing marijuana, and quoting Nietzsche Hunter Thompson, Kerouac, and Timothy Leary? In my experience, that sums up the pot smokers I know.

all of them are salaried, include graduates of georgia tech, many work in highly technical jobs and make up to six figures. any other ignorant questions?

*after reading the rest of your posts it is very clear that you are extremely judgemental, close minded and ignorant, not even worth the time.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: NatePo717
Let me clear something up. When I refer to drugs I'm referring to narcotics. Drugs taken for no purpose other then for fun, to get high, take your mind off reality, etc. If it's for a medical purpose I don't have a problem with it.

Marijuana is not a narcotic.

Originally posted by: Rob9874
I don't mean to be an a-hole, but what kind of jobs do they have? Salaried professional jobs (engineer, etc), or hourly positions? And does their intelligence extend beyond quoting liberal propaganda, legaleze about legalizing marijuana, and quoting Nietzsche Hunter Thompson, Kerouac, and Timothy Leary? In my experience, that sums up the pot smokers I know.

I am a software engineer, a lead programmer on a reasonably sized project in fact, and I have a degree in computer science from an excellent school. I am 24. I smoke weed every day.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: NatePo717
Let me clear something up. When I refer to drugs I'm referring to narcotics. Drugs taken for no purpose other then for fun, to get high, take your mind off reality, etc. If it's for a medical purpose I don't have a problem with it.

Marijuana is not a narcotic.

Originally posted by: Rob9874
I don't mean to be an a-hole, but what kind of jobs do they have? Salaried professional jobs (engineer, etc), or hourly positions? And does their intelligence extend beyond quoting liberal propaganda, legaleze about legalizing marijuana, and quoting Nietzsche Hunter Thompson, Kerouac, and Timothy Leary? In my experience, that sums up the pot smokers I know.

I am a software engineer, a lead programmer on a reasonably sized project in fact, and I have a degree in computer science from an excellent school. I am 24. I smoke weed every day.


B-B-But you can't be like everyone else! People who smoke the pot must be evil and crazy! No real professionals can take the pot, can they?
 

rbV5

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Your concern should only be for your friends exposure to the idiotic legal issues surrounding marijuana use.
 

imported_hscorpio

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Smoking lots of weed will hurt their chances of getting security clearances.

Executive Order 12564
signed into law by Reagan.

More info on how past drug use can be considered a disqualification for security clearance. The main reasoning is that regular use of an illegal drug may indicate that a person is a security risk since they don't abide the law. A polygraph test is usually used to determine past drug use.

It appears that 'experimental use' during ones youth might be excused since a majority of people have tried pot, but regular use especially after high school & college looks pretty bad.

 

KingGheedora

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Originally posted by: NatePo717
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: NatePo717
All drugs are bad.

Have you ever taken aspirin any other headache pill? Have you ever had a drink of alcohol? Ever taken cold or allergy medication? Ever taken a sleeping pill? Ever smoked a cigarette? Ever had a prescription for something? Cough medicine?

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then you are a hypocrite.

Let me clear something up. When I refer to drugs I'm referring to narcotics. Drugs taken for no purpose other then for fun, to get high, take your mind off reality, etc. If it's for a medical purpose I don't have a problem with it.

Exactly why he is calling you a hypocrite. Technically he's right, but what you really meant to say was "taking drugs for recreational purposes is bad", in which case there is no hypocrisy.
 

Zelpo

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I almost laughed when I read the OP ... are you serious?

Hmmmm, let's see ... I don't recall hearing about the legions of pot smokers getting DUIs, barfing & pissing all over themselves, getting involved in domestic abuse ... oh wait, that's alcohol.

Please, don't think that a .gov site is going to be telling you the whole story. They have been down on pot since the 20's when the hemp industry threatened big business.

You'd be surprised just how many people are daily smokers, and hold jobs, have families, & function day to day just like non-smokers.

You'd think by now it'd be legal pffffft
 

magomago

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Don't do dope

I won't consume any drug - and for those who might call me out for a double standard...that includes alcohol and cigarettes.

As for the MJ and any side effects...they seem to be all over the place. I'm sure that eventually there will be a general consensus. But from what we know right, I think its absolute ludicrous how our society creates this double standard and calls MJ an illegal drug while we sanction the sale of alcohol everywhere.
 

Eli

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Based on the information you have given us, you have absolutely no reason to be concerned.

 
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