Should I get a Wii U?

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cmdrdredd

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Nah man, it's classic Nintendo. I'm cool with them slowly releasing the Nintendo brand games. In this current gaming ecosystem I have enough games to play until the day I die. I like the slower pace of quality games. Not some crap that gets rushed out the door. I'm looking at you Electronic Arts!!! Sim City was a disaster D:

LOL...so a mario game that is a ripoff of a 3ds game, another 2d donkey kong game and a remake of a near decade old game are considered ok in your book. I know where your head is at and it isn't down in reality where the WiiU is not selling and the Vita is beating it in sales.
 

cmdrdredd

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I'll give you that one. That is pretty hilarious.

But in all seriousnessesses. I only buy Nintendo crap because they make great games that I can't really get on PC. Their platform has many flaws but I get my moneys worth out of it.

That's fine, but realistically they aren't doing themselves any favors by withholding any info on future titles. I'd rather see some artwork and maybe a few screenshots of possible footage about a title coming 2 years from now than hear nothing and get remakes and rehashes instead. It would help reassure buyers that they aren't making a bad choice so close to PS4/XB1 release which will undoubtedly overshadow everything Nintendo does for the next few years.
 

slayernine

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That's fine, but realistically they aren't doing themselves any favors by withholding any info on future titles. I'd rather see some artwork and maybe a few screenshots of possible footage about a title coming 2 years from now than hear nothing and get remakes and rehashes instead. It would help reassure buyers that they aren't making a bad choice so close to PS4/XB1 release which will undoubtedly overshadow everything Nintendo does for the next few years.

I think most people that buy a Wii U will also buy one of the next gen consoles as well at some point. There are many games not getting released on Wii U. However I am impressed that some games look significantly better on Wii U vs Xbox 360. I'm still debating if I need to get a PS4 or Xbone. I'm hoping more major releases will be on PC this generation due to the x86 nature of the next gen hardware. I'd love to not give MS or Sony any money at all.
 

purbeast0

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if you had told me that there wasn't going to be a metroid or mario sequel on the N64, back when the n64 first came out, i would have laughed in your face and bet you my life savings (probably like $500 back then) that there would be both of those coming out in the lifespan of the N64. but they never came. i know not to assume nintendo is working on games, especially when their "new" mario and zelda games coming on wii-u is a 3ds port and a gamecube port.
 

Aikouka

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if you had told me that there wasn't going to be a metroid or mario sequel on the N64, back when the n64 first came out, i would have laughed in your face and bet you my life savings (probably like $500 back then) that there would be both of those coming out in the lifespan of the N64. but they never came. i know not to assume nintendo is working on games, especially when their "new" mario and zelda games coming on wii-u is a 3ds port and a gamecube port.

Thinking about it, I don't think it's really just a Nintendo problem. It seems that a quite a few Japanese developers have gone from putting out great games at a fairly brisk pace to people wondering if games have been cancelled or not. I know that some Western developers have been the butt of vaporware jokes (Duke Nukem Forever, Half-Life 3, etc.), but when did Square-Enix show us Final Fantasy Versus XIII? I'm pretty sure it was in 2006. It's been 7.5 years since the announcement, and Square even showed us their desperation when they realized, "Wait... we don't have another flagship game!", and they renamed Versus XIII to Final Fantasy XV.

If I had to guess, it's probably just an issue of the Japanese culture and striving for perfection -- just watch their developer interviews to see a difference in the way they act -- that causes them to take forever. To be clear, that doesn't mean that Western games aren't good.
 

dguy6789

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Compiled a quick list in 5 mins of current and upcoming Wii U games 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party that look good to me:

Out now:

Splinter Cell Blacklist
New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U
Pikmin 3
Wonderful 101
Call of Duty Black Ops 2
Batman Arkham City
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Mass Effect 3
Resident Evil Revelations
Rayman Legends
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Zelda Windwaker HD

Upcoming:

Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag
Call of Duty Ghosts
Sonic Lost World
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D Lands
Mario Kart 8
Super Smash Bros.
Monolith Soft X
Bayonetta 2
Deus Ex Human Revolution Director's Cut
Batman Arkham Origins

Also to keep in mind is stuff not yet announced but is pretty much inevitable: New Metroid, new Zelda, Mario Party, Star Fox etc... There's also a lot of rumors about a 3D pokemon game for the Wii U
 
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nextJin

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Compiled a quick list in 5 mins of current and upcoming Wii U games 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party that look good to me:

Out now:

New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U (DLC did not boost sales)
Pikmin 3 (did not boost sales)
Wonderful 101 (did not boost sales)
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (did not boost sales)
Zelda HD (pending sales figures for stand alone game, console sales flatlined again after 2 weeks after seeing a 66% increase)

Upcoming:

Sonic Lost World
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
Super Mario 3D Land**
Mario Kart 8**
Super Smash Bros.**
Monolith Soft X
Bayonetta 2
Wii U Fit **(added)

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I removed titles that would not lead to a console purchase, they only supported current owners and I added Wii U Fit.

The future titles should all be out in the first half of 2014, the problem is what comes after them and how Xbone and PS4 will affect sales. I put ** next to titles that could move alot of consoles, we will just have to wait and see.

Looking at the platform all in all, anyone who gives advice saying to buy it is simply giving bad advice. The Wii U should only be considered by the most die hard Nintendo fans out there and even then at 299.99 it is a very hard sell. The future outlook looks incredibly bleak if those titles fail to produce 400k monthly sales throughout 2014. It would already be very difficult to do without the pending release of Xbone and PS4.
 

eyeofcore

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I removed titles that would not lead to a console purchase, they only supported current owners and I added Wii U Fit.

The future titles should all be out in the first half of 2014, the problem is what comes after them and how Xbone and PS4 will affect sales. I put ** next to titles that could move alot of consoles, we will just have to wait and see.

Looking at the platform all in all, anyone who gives advice saying to buy it is simply giving bad advice. The Wii U should only be considered by the most die hard Nintendo fans out there and even then at 299.99 it is a very hard sell. The future outlook looks incredibly bleak if those titles fail to produce 400k monthly sales throughout 2014. It would already be very difficult to do without the pending release of Xbone and PS4.

If 300$ is too much then why would anyone spend 400$ for Playstation 4 or even 500$ for Xbox One... Your logic is flawed and from your comment I can see that you have something against Nintendo and/or its console and your comment is a utter failure. D: :thumbsdown:
 

Doppel

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Your opinion is equivalent to someone asking a Nvidia fanboy what graphics card to buy.
Admittedly. But there is a reason of course a lot of people don't like the Wii U. With the PS4 and xbone out next month it seems a crazy purchase unless you absolutely must have some specific games.
 

eyeofcore

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Admittedly. But there is a reason of course a lot of people don't like the Wii U. With the PS4 and xbone out next month it seems a crazy purchase unless you absolutely must have some specific games.

Because they don't understand the concept of the console and/or are fanboys that trash it since it is not their favorite piece of plastic. Playstation 4 and Xbox One have the most boring launch lineups of all console generations, Wii U at least had some real diversity in genres of the games and just because the console had a small game drought then everyone started bashing it because it became a mainstream trend on the internet and those people did not even tried the console at some store. D:

I won't buy Playstation 4 nor Xbox One, both are boring consoles that lack innovation, refreshing games, new ways of interaction with games also to play online component of most if not all games on those consoles you need to be subscribed to their premium accounts also those two consoles can't be in vertical position compared to Wii U so you don't have a option to put the console in some narrow spaces or just for the looks of it. :\

I would need to chug 50-60$ a year for online, since it seems life cycle of these consoles are 10 years that equals to 500-600$ so literally 10 games. Compared to Wii U that you don't need to pay for online and other features and yes even though Nintendo is for now behind department of features involving online it exceeds with MiiVerse and screenshots that are captured directly from game without any compression except if the game is 1080p then it gets downscaled to 720p to reduce size of the image though then it gets a "free" AA thus the image looks better in quality. :wub:

People say the gamepad is a gimmick, its not. You have a built in microphone for chatting, you have a camera for video chatting, you have a touch screen that can act as virtual keyboard and a drawing board. People seem to forget some obvious factors when comes to consoles, Sony/Microsoft fans trash that it does not have that or that like Playstation 3/Xbox 360 though those console did not had that at their launch but several years after when it got implemented.

I am sick of double standards when comes to Nintendo, its like nobody likes them and like people want them to go away like they are too long in the industry and/or don't fit it at all so people want a homogenic console market with same types of games, that repetition, like they want ineptitude of the video game industry, its like wishing: I want another video game crash like the one in 1983... Its awful and crazy.

I don't know if people are just stupid or they are just xenophobic because Nintendo is different because they are not dudebro kiddie like Sony and Microsoft. I miss moments when games were really innovative, the golden times. :'(
 
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Geosurface

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I'm leaning more away from it after thinking more and reading some replies here...

one big problem is that I've never been a Mario fan.

I've enjoyed a couple of Mario Kart games, and I guess when I was 7 the original Mario Bros was okay... though I never liked it nearly as much as Zelda 1, Contra 1, Castlevania 1, Metroid 1, etc

I've never played all the way through any main Mario game, and I probably never will.

So for me it's basically just Zelda and Metroid which can draw me in.

But perhaps I should get a 3DS for that new Zelda game and to play Ocarina again...

I may grab a 2DS this weekend, we'll see.
 

nextJin

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If 300$ is too much then why would anyone spend 400$ for Playstation 4 or even 500$ for Xbox One... Your logic is flawed and from your comment I can see that you have something against Nintendo and/or its console and your comment is a utter failure. D: :thumbsdown:

A 100 dollar premium would give you;

Exceptional Online
Vastly Better Graphics
Third Party Support
10 year life window
etc.

I don't have anything against Nintendo, I can look and plainly see where it is heading. I have a 3DS XL and no, before you compare the two they aren't comparable.

Because they don't understand the concept of the console and/or are fanboys that trash it since it is not their favorite piece of plastic. Playstation 4 and Xbox One have the most boring launch lineups of all console generations, Wii U at least had some real diversity in genres of the games and just because the console had a small game drought then everyone started bashing it because it became a mainstream trend on the internet and those people did not even tried the console at some store. D:

I won't buy Playstation 4 nor Xbox One, both are boring consoles that lack innovation, refreshing games, new ways of interaction with games also to play online component of most if not all games on those consoles you need to be subscribed to their premium accounts also those two consoles can't be in vertical position compared to Wii U so don't have a option to put the console in some narrow spaces or just for the looks of it.

I would need to chug 50-60$ a year for online, since it seems life cycle of these consoles are 10 years that equals to 500-600$ so literally 10 games. Compared to Wii U that you don't need to pay for online and other features and yes even though Nintendo is for now behind department of features involving online it exceeds with MiiVerse and screenshots that are captured directly from game without any compression except if the game is 1080p then it gets downscaled to 720p to reduce size of the image though then it gets a "free" AA thus the image looks better in quality. :wub:

People say the gamepad is a gimmick, its not. You have a built in microphone for chatting, you have a camera for video chatting, you have a touch screen that can act as virtual keyboard and a drawing board. People seem to forget some obvious factors when comes to consoles, Sony/Microsoft fans trash that it does not have that or that like Playstation 3/Xbox 360 though those console did not had that at their launch but several years after when it got implemented.

I am sick of double standards when comes to Nintendo, its like nobody likes them and like people want them to go away like they are too long in the industry and/or don't fit it at all so people want a homogenic console market with same types of games, that repetition, like they want ineptitude of the video game industry, its like wishing: I want another video game crash like the one in 1983... Its awful and crazy.

I don't know if people are just stupid or they are just xenophobic because Nintendo is different because they are not dudebro kiddie like Sony and Microsoft. I miss moments when games were really innovative, the golden times. :'(

Actually both consoles have the most supported launch lineup in history, they each have multiple AAA titles, sports titles, and actual variety other than RPGs. Saying the Wii U had diversity is fairly asinine, Super Mario U was not diversity. It had a respectible lineup at launch but that was mainly due to the third party support it had at the time. The platform did not have a "small drought", that would be 2 months. The Wii U has basically been in a 12 month drought with the exception of pikman and wonderful 101.

The controller is a gimmick and it's not catching on.

I hate to tell you this but it's going to look damn bleak within 6 months. Nintendo will continue to release games once a year for it, but third parties are done with it just like most of the rest of the world. It is going to have a bitch of a time getting to where the Gamecube even got.
 

eyeofcore

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I'm leaning more away from it after thinking more and reading some replies here...

one big problem is that I've never been a Mario fan.

I've enjoyed a couple of Mario Kart games, and I guess when I was 7 the original Mario Bros was okay... though I never liked it nearly as much as Zelda 1, Contra 1, Castlevania 1, Metroid 1, etc

I've never played all the way through any main Mario game, and I probably never will.

So for me it's basically just Zelda and Metroid which can draw me in.

But perhaps I should get a 3DS for that new Zelda game and to play Ocarina again...

I may grab a 2DS this weekend, we'll see.

Nintendo's consoles are not just for Mario and Zelda, that is a dumb way of thinking and why don't look at other games on Wii U? Ninja Gaiden 3; Razor's Edge, Resident Evil Revelations, ZombiU, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Sonic Lost World, Bayonetta 2, X and other games...

@nextJin You continue with your failure, you must love how you fail...
 
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nextJin

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But perhaps I should get a 3DS for that new Zelda game and to play Ocarina again...

I may grab a 2DS this weekend, we'll see.

I'd get the 3DS XL and yes it would be a very wise move. It's a good portable with tons of support at a respectable price.
 

nextJin

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Nintendo's consoles are not just for Mario and Zelda, that is a dumb way of thinking and why don't look at other games on Wii U? Ninja Gaiden 3; Razor's Edge, Resident Evil Revelations, ZombiU, Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Sonic Lost World, Bayonetta 2, X and other games...

@nextJin You continue with your failure, you must love how you fail...

Oh I caught the edit, but no. The only thing that will be a failure here is likely to be the Wii U. I've already covered it's sales projections and how bad it is actually doing and likely hood of doing any better.

Also the games you listed did not move any systems at all, the only chance the Wii U has is Mario Kart, Mario Land, and Smash Bros. And they will be released after the Xbone and PS4.
 

eyeofcore

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Oh I caught the edit, but no. The only thing that will be a failure here is likely to be the Wii U. I've already covered it's sales projections and how bad it is actually doing and likely hood of doing any better.

Also the games you listed did not move any systems at all, the only chance the Wii U has is Mario Kart, Mario Land, and Smash Bros. And they will be released after the Xbone and PS4.

It won't be failure, stop hoping. Just because Wii U had a rough time does not mean it will continue because that is not possible, so by your logic Playstation 3 that was practically dying for three years in a row should have been dying and be dead right now so your logic is utterly flawed, but you will deny it because you try so hard to label Wii U as a failure even though it is not a year out, let alone three years to see if the console is a failure or not.

Just because Xbox One and Playstation 4 are going to be released that does not mean that Wii U is going to fail, that is the dumbest assumption that I've seen since the last time I checked gamefaq's.
 

HydroSqueegee

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im picking up the WiiU WW bundle along with Swapforce this sunday for the kids. its their christmas present. being 6 and 8 they love the Wii. I have no desire to get an xbox or playstation, though im sure once the kids are a bit older we'll go that route.
 

Tweak155

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I've considered buying the Zelda bundle since I never did get to play WW (never owned a GC, just Wii, N64, SNES and NES), but then I look at their games list and I'm just not tempted.

It is a REAL problem being discussed here.
 

drbrock

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If you are going for Zelda and Metroid then the 3ds XL is a no brainer. I would wait for the Zelda 3ds XL to come out though IMHO. That is what I am waiting on. I am sure they will have to release one for arguably the biggest Zelda sequel since Links Awakening.

Pick up a Wii U when more games come out that you like. The PS4 and Xbone will be the superior consoles if you are going to pick only one this generation. However I think many gamers will pick Ps4 or Xbone and then buy a Wii U when more games are out since it is rather cheap, even at its current price point. Ps4 or Xbone is the Big Mac, Wii U will be the delicious golden fries lol.
 

Tweak155

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If you are going for Zelda and Metroid then the 3ds XL is a no brainer. I would wait for the Zelda 3ds XL to come out though IMHO. That is what I am waiting on. I am sure they will have to release one for arguably the biggest Zelda sequel since Links Awakening.

Pick up a Wii U when more games come out that you like. The PS4 and Xbone will be the superior consoles if you are going to pick only one this generation. However I think many gamers will pick Ps4 or Xbone and then buy a Wii U when more games are out since it is rather cheap, even at its current price point. Ps4 or Xbone is the Big Mac, Wii U will be the delicious golden fries lol.

Once a NEW Zelda comes out for Wii U, it will undoubtedly be in my collection. Twilight Princess was awesome on the Wii (I thought, even with the frustrating controls) and Skyward Sword was a let down, although I still completed it. But it was good enough to get me to want to buy the next.
 

Pheran

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Because they don't understand the concept of the console and/or are fanboys that trash it since it is not their favorite piece of plastic. Playstation 4 and Xbox One have the most boring launch lineups of all console generations, Wii U at least had some real diversity in genres of the games and just because the console had a small game drought then everyone started bashing it because it became a mainstream trend on the internet and those people did not even tried the console at some store. D:
...rest of rant elided...

Wow, a Nintendo fanboy. I haven't seen one of those on the forums for quite some time.

I am sick of double standards when comes to Nintendo, its like nobody likes them and like people want them to go away like they are too long in the industry and/or don't fit it at all so people want a homogenic console market with same types of games, that repetition, like they want ineptitude of the video game industry, its like wishing: I want another video game crash like the one in 1983... Its awful and crazy.

I don't want Nintendo to go away. I want them to stop wasting their time making crap console hardware and start publishing their game franchises (they do have some good ones) on real next gen consoles like the PS4 and XBO.
 

nextJin

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It won't be failure, stop hoping. Just because Wii U had a rough time does not mean it will continue because that is not possible, so by your logic Playstation 3 that was practically dying for three years in a row should have been dying and be dead right now so your logic is utterly flawed, but you will deny it because you try so hard to label Wii U as a failure even though it is not a year out, let alone three years to see if the console is a failure or not.

Just because Xbox One and Playstation 4 are going to be released that does not mean that Wii U is going to fail, that is the dumbest assumption that I've seen since the last time I checked gamefaq's.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_3

Try harder, it cost 600 dollars and outsold the Wii U in the same amount of time by 6 million units. The cost gap between the Wii and PS3 was 350 dollars, the cost gap between the Wii U and PS4 is 100.

Do the Math.
 

Geosurface

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When does the new 3DS Zelda come out? I already bought OOT - just ordered it because I heard its getting harder to find new.

I hate 3D so 2DS might work but not being able to close it would be lame.

Really wish Wii U could play 3DS games, even if it required an add on like GC had. That would make this all a much easier decision.
 

drbrock

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The release date is unknown as it has not been announced. However, it is popular opinion that one will be announced at the end of the month. Nintendo usually announces special releases around 30 days prior to release.
 
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