Should I get a Wii U?

[desura]

I think the wii u is about $100 too expensive. And the cost cannot come down appreciably due to that weird lcd controller they have.

It's time for Nintendo to drastically cut prices and go back to their origins as a kids toy company.

And also to develop some of their high end on other platforms.

 

[Dacalo]

Purchasing a Wii U was THE worst console purchase for me going back +20 years. I ended up selling it after 4 months or so because I was getting sick of playing 1-2 games (other games were already readily available in superior format).

 

[nextJin]

Not many.

Although the price drop and release of WW:HD boosted sales tremendously.

Pikmin 3 also pushed a lot of consoles.

As the games come out, it will pick up steam.

Pikman3 didn't push a lot of consoles, and Zelda HD will probably flatline after 2 weeks like every other title does. It was more the price drop for the 66% bump in last week's sales (which is still bad).

In the UK I believe it was recently reported that they saw a 600%+ increase because of the Zelda bundle amd price drop.

The UK had the worst sales of any country so a bump like that likely never made it past 4k a week (still poor). Might have been more might have been less, but the Wii U needs more than a price drop or 10 year old games upscaled to 1080p.

 

[eyeofcore]

Pikman3 didn't push a lot of consoles, and Zelda HD will probably flatline after 2 weeks like every other title does. It was more the price drop for the 66% bump in last week's sales (which is still bad).

In the UK I believe it was recently reported that they saw a 600%+ increase because of the Zelda bundle amd price drop.

The UK had the worst sales of any country so a bump like that likely never made it past 4k a week (still poor). Might have been more might have been less, but the Wii U needs more than a price drop or 10 year old games upscaled to 1080p.

You are low balling, Wii U sold 1268 in UK at end of the week of 28th September and that rise of 685% should equal well above 4000 units, it is actually a bit above 8600 units sold in UK.

you are delusional.

So numbers do lie? Oh so Wii U won't have 89 retail and 26 digital games in its first year though I counted that much from launch to its upcoming first anniversary.

You people need to do research, it seems people love negative news about Wii U and Nintendo, double standards!?

I think the wii u is about $100 too expensive. And the cost cannot come down appreciably due to that weird lcd controller they have.

It's time for Nintendo to drastically cut prices and go back to their origins as a kids toy company.

And also to develop some of their high end on other platforms.

You cry about 300$ price point while you are ready to pay 400 for Playstation 4 or 500 for Xbox One without including necessary premium subscription for online multi-player and that is another 50-60$ a year, also did you even tried the Wii U's gamepad controller? Everyone say its weird because it is not regular as Xbox or Playstation controller that are basically the same with little to no change over several generations.

Wii U's gamepad has built in camera and microphone compared to Playstation 4 controller so you can do voice/video chat, record videos and with touch screen LCD screen that can act as virtual keyboard thus much easier to text chat and do web browsing/searching on the internet compared to regular controller on Xbox and Playstation plus you can draw if you want also in some games you can put some in game HUD elements on the gamepad thus have more clear screen when gaming and less things obstructing your view.

If you don't like the gamepad then buy a Pro controller or use Wii nunchuk's...

It's not time for anything, specially not cutting the price since they already did plus Nintendo will focus next year on Wii U since this year is for Nintendo year of Luigi and 3DS so next year for Nintendo is year of Wii U also their origins are not kid company as you say it because that is wrong, Nintendo produced cards, they had own TV station, they had own Love hotel, own Taxi company so origins of Nintendo is not a kid company also consoles at first for primarily aimed for kids and that is where Nintendo is considered a company for kids versus Microsoft or Sony that started later when those kids were teens and/or adults then when they made their first consoles.

You only wish doom and gloom Nintendo because you want their games on your favorite piece of plastic rather than buy the console for their games and exclusives on those consoles, you are not a gamer because your comment points out that you are a casual like most Sony and Microsoft fans and they won't ever develop a game on Sony or Microsoft's platform and you need a reality check though I won't deny your right to be in denial and hope that your fairy tale will come true while it won't ultil somehow Nintendo manages to spend/burn all 8 billion US dollars in their bank and I don't see that since 3DS is a smash hit that prints enough money to build up the money in the bank and finance the current poor state of Wii U.

Purchasing a Wii U was THE worst console purchase for me going back +20 years. I ended up selling it after 4 months or so because I was getting sick of playing 1-2 games (other games were already readily available in superior format).

You exposed your problem with your consoles, you did not buy games for it and I don't understand people complaining about the system that they barely buy games for, where is the logic? I bet you will buy it again or not, so in the end you wasted your money for nothing because you don't have the virtue of patience.

If you have a PS3 you probably did not bought it on its launch because Playstation 3 was in way more dire situation than Wii U had, it seems people love to be negative involving Nintendo and Wii U.

 

[nextJin]

You are low balling, Wii U sold 1268 in UK at end of the week of 28th September and that rise of 685% should equal well above 4000 units, it is actually a bit above 8600 units sold in UK.

If you have a PS3 you probably did not bought it on its launch because Playstation 3 was in way more dire situation than Wii U had, it seems people love to be negative involving Nintendo and Wii U.

It's still only an average week for any console sales, it's still not a good number when they needed better numbers. I'm pretty open minded here, it's an improvement, but I doubt very seriously it will be sustained. If it was sustained and the same percentage improvement happened across the globe it would still not meet their annual figures by 2 million units and would still not meet Gamecube lifetime sales.

It's not Doom and Gloom, it's pretty standard market analysis and release roadmaps through 2014.

Your still throwing out bullshit statements, I've already proved the PS3 had a way better base that the Wii U has even with a 300 dollar price premium.

 

[purbeast0]

So numbers do lie? Oh so Wii U won't have 89 retail and 26 digital games in its first year though I counted that much from launch to its upcoming first anniversary.

You people need to do research, it seems people love negative news about Wii U and Nintendo, double standards!?

by "not having games" i am (and everyone else too probably) is referring to "not having games worth purchasing". ie, not having any good games.

and yes i know the industry and how shitty the games are selling and how wii doesn't really have many, if any, good games as in "must have/system sellers". as you said, the numbers don't lie. go look at sales numbers for games on wii-u they are atrocious.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Zombi U game with the deluxe console?

Mine came with Nintendoland.

The Black system came with both for months and months.

 

[eyeofcore]

by "not having games" i am (and everyone else too probably) is referring to "not having games worth purchasing". ie, not having any good games.

and yes i know the industry and how shitty the games are selling and how wii doesn't really have many, if any, good games as in "must have/system sellers". as you said, the numbers don't lie. go look at sales numbers for games on wii-u they are atrocious.

You went full r***** is last sentence, of course it won't sell alot when there are almost 4 million Wii U's and you expect Playstation 4 and Xbox One to do otherwise? You are delusional...

 

[cmdrdredd]

You cry about 300$ price point while you are ready to pay 400 for Playstation 4 or 500 for Xbox One without including necessary premium subscription for online multi-player and that is another 50-60$ a year, also did you even tried the Wii U's gamepad controller?
Nintendo doesn't even do proper multiplayer online and their store is atrocious. Try making an argument that helps you next time. On both the Xbox 360 and PS3 currently you get free games. Sony gives recently released AAA titles away to members. That's reason enough for me and other people to pay the $50 a year. As for the controller it's heavy, the screen isn't responsive enough, and it has a battery that barely lasts 4 hours. It's just bad design.

Everyone say its weird because it is not regular as Xbox or Playstation controller that are basically the same with little to no change over several generations.
Have you even looked at the DualShock 4 vs the DualShock 3? Probably not judging on the response. Besides that there is a reason their controllers don't change that much but just get refined. The reason is they work and they feel nice. Nintendo has had shitty controller designs since the N64. All of them were goofball layouts that just don't work for a lot of titles.

Wii U's gamepad has built in camera and microphone compared to Playstation 4 controller so you can do voice/video chat, record videos and with touch screen LCD screen that can act as virtual keyboard thus much easier to text chat and do web browsing/searching on the internet compared to regular controller on Xbox and Playstation plus you can draw if you want also in some games you can put some in game HUD elements on the gamepad thus have more clear screen when gaming and less things obstructing your view.
I can plug in a regular keyboard and type faster, having an actual headset is also multiple times better that talking into the controller. Have you even played any WiiU games? They all still have HUD elements on the TV. Looking down is no substitute for having it in your main view. Why do you think the HUD in military jets puts most of the relevant info in your forward view? It provides better situational awareness than looking down at a secondary screen does.

If you don't like the gamepad then buy a Pro controller or use Wii nunchuk's...
The pro controller doesn't work with every game and the WIi controller flat out doesn't feel right for many games. With the WiiU you can't just plug in these and say "hey I'm gonna use this controller". Developers need to make it function and there are few who are gonna do that because every WiiU has the gamepad but not every one has the Pro controller. It'll be poorly supported.

It's not time for anything, specially not cutting the price since they already did plus Nintendo will focus next year on Wii U since this year is for Nintendo year of Luigi and 3DS so next year for Nintendo is year of Wii U also their origins are not kid company as you say it because that is wrong, Nintendo produced cards, they had own TV station, they had own Love hotel, own Taxi company so origins of Nintendo is not a kid company also consoles at first for primarily aimed for kids and that is where Nintendo is considered a company for kids versus Microsoft or Sony that started later when those kids were teens and/or adults then when they made their first consoles.
So you think Sony and MS won't focus on the PS4 and XB1 systems next year? You think only Nintendo is going to try doing anything? Besides, if the new Zelda and a new Metroid game were coming we would know of it. They are years away and that means they are loosing sales right now. Every title that isn't from Nintendo will be better on PC(if a version comes), PS4, XB1. It's a sad fact that you must learn to understand

You only wish doom and gloom Nintendo because you want their games on your favorite piece of plastic rather than buy the console for their games and exclusives on those consoles, you are not a gamer because your comment points out that you are a casual like most Sony and Microsoft fans and they won't ever develop a game on Sony or Microsoft's platform and you need a reality check though I won't deny your right to be in denial and hope that your fairy tale will come true while it won't ultil somehow Nintendo manages to spend/burn all 8 billion US dollars in their bank and I don't see that since 3DS is a smash hit that prints enough money to build up the money in the bank and finance the current poor state of Wii U.
The 3ds has nothing to do with the WiiU. Just cause the 3ds sells doesn't automatically mean the Wiiu is going to sell the same way. People don't wish Nintendo to die cause they make good games, but their hardware has been below standards for years with gimmick controllers that don't work for a lot of games that people play.


You exposed your problem with your consoles, you did not buy games for it and I don't understand people complaining about the system that they barely buy games for, where is the logic? I bet you will buy it again or not, so in the end you wasted your money for nothing because you don't have the virtue of patience.
The logic is we gave it a chance, saw it was boring and then sold it when the price was right. If we waited...it would collect dust for 4 years until we get ONE game we actually want to play. Screw that. I sold mine cause I wanted an XB1 which has at least 3 games I will buy day one(Killer Instinct, Forza Motorsports 5, and Dead Rising 3) and at least 5 announced titles I am following that will be released for it (Crymson Dragon, Destiny, Halo, Kingdom Hearts 3, Star Wars Battlefront, D4) Some of those are also coming to PS4 which I will need to decide between but the point is there are more launch games I will play on both the XB1 and PS4 than an entire years library for the WiiU. It's really a no brainer there.

If you have a PS3 you probably did not bought it on its launch because Playstation 3 was in way more dire situation than Wii U had, it seems people love to be negative involving Nintendo and Wii U.
Says you. My PS3 saw more use after I bought it than my Wii and WiiU did combined.

Your arguments are ridiculous.

So numbers do lie? Oh so Wii U won't have 89 retail and 26 digital games in its first year though I counted that much from launch to its upcoming first anniversary.

Uh...Most of those are casual drawing games or re-releases of NES & SNES games we played more than 20 years ago. That's not exactly a strong showing. So you can play Punch-out on your WiiU gamepad? Big deal...too bad it has terrible input lag and becomes unplayable.

 

[purbeast0]

You went full r***** is last sentence, of course it won't sell alot when there are almost 4 million Wii U's and you expect Playstation 4 and Xbox One to do otherwise? You are delusional...

wut? i never mentioned ps3 or 360 in any of my sentences. you make no sense.

MY POINT IS THE WII-U DOES NOT HAVE MANY GOOD GAMES AND THAT IS WHY THE CONSOLE IS DOING POORLY. CAN I MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER FOR YOU?

 

[zerocool84]

wut? i never mentioned ps3 or 360 in any of my sentences. you make no sense.

MY POINT IS THE WII-U DOES NOT HAVE MANY GOOD GAMES AND THAT IS WHY THE CONSOLE IS DOING POORLY. CAN I MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER FOR YOU?

It's already been said time and time again. The sales numbers don't lie but some people are just fooling themselves.

 

[Carmen813]

The Wii U had a significant software drought from January until August. Since then it has been picking up steam, but this has not been reflected in sales due to the continually bad press.

In my opinion, if you only could afford ONE system this holiday then I would take a serious look at the Wii U - provided you like the Nintendo first party games. There are quite a few good ones out now, and more on the horizon. IT is also getting most major third party games - the exception being ones from EA.

If you like online gaming then PS4/Xbox One should be a no-brainer.

The Wii U EShop is not bad - most of my Wii U games have been purchased through it. People seem to forget that you get 10% back on everything from that store. It's not huge and you can save more from non-digital editions, but if you prefer digital (I do) then it works great.

 

[eyeofcore]

wut? i never mentioned ps3 or 360 in any of my sentences. you make no sense.

MY POINT IS THE WII-U DOES NOT HAVE MANY GOOD GAMES AND THAT IS WHY THE CONSOLE IS DOING POORLY. CAN I MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER FOR YOU?

You mentioned sales of games and since Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are only way comparison of sales when comes to consoles thus I said why is primarily that because of size of instal base that both of those consoles have nearly 80 million or almost exactly 20 times larger than Wii U instal base.

I know though you seem that you can't comprehend what I am talking about nor/or you though a bit more about my response as for games, it has the quantity and it has good games though not really aimed at Nintendo crowd and most people that own a Wii U also game on Xbox 360 and/or Playstation 3 and/or PC when Wii started to die since 2011.

@cmdrdredd

"Nintendo doesn't even do proper multiplayer online and their store is atrocious. Try making an argument that helps you next time. On both the Xbox 360 and PS3 currently you get free games. Sony gives recently released AAA titles away to members. That's reason enough for me and other people to pay the $50 a year. As for the controller it's heavy, the screen isn't responsive enough, and it has a battery that barely lasts 4 hours. It's just bad design."

I did, your arguments are invalid because you did not consider important factors.

Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 at launch did not had the online like they have now and Wii U is in the same situation and it will improve and same will apply for Xbox One and Playstation 4 since they will update and so on.

Wii U's OS currently needs less than 512MB of RAM though it has 1GB dedicated for it thus it means Nintendo will add more features also involving eShop, it is more complex than Wiiware and if you sold your Wii U a month or two after launch then you did not experienced improvements that are now on it right now.

When comes to controller that we can argue about because it depends from person to person so your impressions will not apply to every person, for you it is maybe heavy because your muscle tissue is weak or maybe your mind is playing tricks to you since our mind thinks straightly logically since large objects must be heavier than smaller ones. Do you know that screen on Wii U is resistive touch screen thus it is single touch and not multi touch also you need to put pressure on the screen versus multi touch that operate on basis of your fingers attracting electrons on the screen thus there is really no need for any pressure but rather only a simply touching the screen also because you mentioned that the gamepad was heavy for you then I can assume that you don't apply enough force or it could be result that you have smaller hands/fingers thus less space is covered by tip of your fingers thus less pressure/force is present thus you need to push harder on resistive single touch screen on the gamepad. Well if 2-4 hours are not enough then buy "high capacity battery" that has 5-8 hours and it costs like 25-30$ and you can use default battery as reserver in case your "high capacity battery" dies my some chance.

"Have you even looked at the DualShock 4 vs the DualShock 3? Probably not judging on the response. Besides that there is a reason their controllers don't change that much but just get refined. The reason is they work and they feel nice. Nintendo has had shitty controller designs since the N64. All of them were goofball layouts that just don't work for a lot of titles."

Your can't judge my response, I've seen it and it is nothing special since touch pad on DS4 is a gimmick and was transfered from PS Vita that is influenced by Nintendo DS touch features as there is reason for some change for some major change because the controllers are minor refinements rather than expand its usefulness eg add two more buttons so there is less need for button combinations in some games or to be more useful for example you can attach an add-on or customize the button placement, at least Wii nunchuk had wheel addon and was comparable to mouse and keyboard or like Wii U gamepad has this addon;
http://www.amazon.com/Windshield-Hol.../dp/B00F2BLF7O

"I can plug in a regular keyboard and type faster, having an actual headset is also multiple times better that talking into the controller. Have you even played any WiiU games? They all still have HUD elements on the TV. Looking down is no substitute for having it in your main view. Why do you think the HUD in military jets puts most of the relevant info in your forward view? It provides better situational awareness than looking down at a secondary screen does."

You can do the same on Wii U since latest update, I've seen Wii U games and it depends from game to game if they utilize that option like Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate. I did not say that it is a substitute and it can display more detail, also if you can't handle two screens while gaming then are you capable enough to drive a car? Also more clearer screen without obstructing view increases chances of detecting things on corner of the screen that normally are obstructed by hud. FOV is important.

"The pro controller doesn't work with every game and the WIi controller flat out doesn't feel right for many games. With the WiiU you can't just plug in these and say "hey I'm gonna use this controller". Developers need to make it function and there are few who are gonna do that because every WiiU has the gamepad but not every one has the Pro controller. It'll be poorly supported."

I agree, if some game mehanics needs gamepad you can still control most of the game with Pro Controller and use gamepad for games specific features, you can use Pro for regular gameplay elements and inventory/maps, Wii controller can be used though it is not widely supported but you can play Wii games on Wii U.

"So you think Sony and MS won't focus on the PS4 and XB1 systems next year? You think only Nintendo is going to try doing anything? Besides, if the new Zelda and a new Metroid game were coming we would know of it. They are years away and that means they are loosing sales right now. Every title that isn't from Nintendo will be better on PC(if a version comes), PS4, XB1. It's a sad fact that you must learn to understand"

No, but they will still support Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 for next 3 years so it will take some focus from Playstation 4 and Xbox One and Sony has also Vita that will take part from Playstation 4. Also we would not know if new metroid or zelda is coming because Nintendo's secrecy is comparable to Apple and just because they don't share every detail that does not mean that it is years away plus why spoil the surprise, they will reveal it when they really need it or when it is strategically viable move and that is not needed since one exclusive is out this month and a major one is out next month plus bundles are out next month so sales will rise.

I know that though you are so dumb enough that you can't conclude that I know that for years so you keep failing, keep hoping that you know things that I don't know. You act like that social reject on youtube.

"The 3ds has nothing to do with the WiiU. Just cause the 3ds sells doesn't automatically mean the Wiiu is going to sell the same way. People don't wish Nintendo to die cause they make good games, but their hardware has been below standards for years with gimmick controllers that don't work for a lot of games that people play."

3DS has to do with Wii U, they have similar concept and I did not claimed that so learn to read, I said that profit that they can get from 3DS is partially funding Wii U project eg filling the current gap and the money it bleeds for not thought that does not mean it is a failure because fortunes can easily change and same thing somewhat applied similar to Playstation 3.

If people don't wish to die then they should not wish for failure of their consoles thus creating a demise of the company that they supposedly don't want to die, also your argument involving hardware is invalid since hardware does not define quality nor standard of the games since all I saw from hardware getting stronger is better graphics but decline in quality of games and ineptitude of 3rd party and even 1st party developers.

Wii is Open GL 1.X and has 1/20 raw performance of Xbox 360 that is DirectX 9 or in Open GL that is 2.X and now you complain about Wii U that shrank the gap by 5 times?

Wii U is Open GL 4.3 and has 1/4 of Xbox One raw performance and when looking at API level they are basically on the same level except Xbox One supports DirectX 11.2 features while it is still Open GL 4.3... Now you complain about the disparity hardware wise even though it decreased by miles and not even terrible as Wii to Xbox 360.

A game that is properly optimized for Wii U and made for it will exceed Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 exclusives with ease and Super Mario 3D Wolrd shows that with lightning, shadows, water effects and detail.

"The logic is we gave it a chance, saw it was boring and then sold it when the price was right. If we waited...it would collect dust for 4 years until we get ONE game we actually want to play. Screw that. I sold mine cause I wanted an XB1 which has at least 3 games I will buy day one(Killer Instinct, Forza Motorsports 5, and Dead Rising 3) and at least 5 announced titles I am following that will be released for it (Crymson Dragon, Destiny, Halo, Kingdom Hearts 3, Star Wars Battlefront, D4) Some of those are also coming to PS4 which I will need to decide between but the point is there are more launch games I will play on both the XB1 and PS4 than an entire years library for the WiiU. It's really a no brainer there."

First of all it would not collect dust for 4 years, second there are more than supposed one game that is a must game so you are FOS, also Star Wars Battlefront will be on Wii U since Star Wars is Walt Disney's IP. When Xbox One gets released there will be 5-6 must have exclusives on Wii U and we already know 5 exclusives that will be on Wii U in 2014 so you are again FOS.

"Says you. My PS3 saw more use after I bought it than my Wii and WiiU did combined."

No... People that owned it from launch and/or observed the situation, plus all I hear about Wii U was valid for Playstation 3 and almost all reasons against Wii U were used early on Playstation 3.

"Your arguments are ridiculous."

My arguments are not ridiculous, they are valid and by doing proper research you would come to same conclusion if you were thinking out of the box and compare situations, history and factors.

I love people like you, you try and yet you need to try harder and then you go in denial like any regular person that I find on gamefaq's, youtube and other forums that got into a tornado of negative thoughts involving Nintendo and Wii U like a collective of shepps.

"Uh...Most of those are casual drawing games or re-releases of NES & SNES games we played more than 20 years ago. That's not exactly a strong showing. So you can play Punch-out on your WiiU gamepad? Big deal...too bad it has terrible input lag and becomes unplayable."

Actually a big freaking NO... I did not included any Virtual Console games nor any apps like Art Academy so thus again you are fail. You hate the Wii U and you must admit it otherwise you would not be that hostile and cherry picking things that have been solved by updates that you ignore.

You had the Wii and you bought Wii U with expectation that it is going to be terrible so you have pre-determined mindset thus your had pre-determined outcome rather than having an unbiased mindset though you allowed past experience to influence your experience with the console, you bite the trap of our regular human psychology so I can understand your reactions and I will understand your denial.

The Wii U had a significant software drought from January until August. Since then it has been picking up steam, but this has not been reflected in sales due to the continually bad press.

In my opinion, if you only could afford ONE system this holiday then I would take a serious look at the Wii U - provided you like the Nintendo first party games. There are quite a few good ones out now, and more on the horizon. IT is also getting most major third party games - the exception being ones from EA.

If you like online gaming then PS4/Xbox One should be a no-brainer.

The Wii U EShop is not bad - most of my Wii U games have been purchased through it. People seem to forget that you get 10% back on everything from that store. It's not huge and you can save more from non-digital editions, but if you prefer digital (I do) then it works great.

I agree with you, you are spot on...!

 

[cmdrdredd]

The Wii U had a significant software drought from January until August. Since then it has been picking up steam, but this has not been reflected in sales due to the continually bad press.

In my opinion, if you only could afford ONE system this holiday then I would take a serious look at the Wii U - provided you like the Nintendo first party games. There are quite a few good ones out now, and more on the horizon. IT is also getting most major third party games - the exception being ones from EA.

If you like online gaming then PS4/Xbox One should be a no-brainer.

The Wii U EShop is not bad - most of my Wii U games have been purchased through it. People seem to forget that you get 10% back on everything from that store. It's not huge and you can save more from non-digital editions, but if you prefer digital (I do) then it works great.

So you are telling people to get the worst system with the least games? The PS4 and XB1 will have more games on Day 1 than the WiiU got in an entire year.

For the record the 360's XBOX Live worked from day one. The entire premise of the WiiU is built on one big shitty gimmick so don't give us your BS about the DS4 being a gimmick controller lol. You really are grasping at straws and falling flat on your face every time. You may say "oh but that game will be on WiiU cause it's a Disney IP". Oh yeah? Last I checked EA licensed it meaning EA does whatever the hell they want with it cause they are paying for the Star Wars name. Disney has no say and doesn't care cause they are already paid millions just to stamp the name on the box. Second you don't honestly think the WiiU version of any game will be even one quarter of the game that comes out on PC, PS4, or XB1 do you? Sheesh...talk about fanboy.

You aren't fooling anybody.

 

[eyeofcore]

So you are telling people to get the worst system with the least games? The PS4 and XB1 will have more games on Day 1 than the WiiU got in an entire year.

For the record the 360's XBOX Live worked from day one. The entire premise of the WiiU is built on one big shitty gimmick so don't give us your BS about the DS4 being a gimmick controller lol. You really are grasping at straws and falling flat on your face every time. You may say "oh but that game will be on WiiU cause it's a Disney IP". Oh yeah? Last I checked EA licensed it meaning EA does whatever the hell they want with it cause they are paying for the Star Wars name. Disney has no say and doesn't care cause they are already paid millions just to stamp the name on the box. Second you don't honestly think the WiiU version of any game will be even one quarter of the game that comes out on PC, PS4, or XB1 do you? Sheesh...talk about fanboy.

You aren't fooling anybody.

Xbox Live was present singe original Xbox so NO, it is big shitty to you because you are casual, it has a gimmick and that is those blue/pink/red light that was to be used for camera that got ditched and that touch pad versus a Wii U gamepad that has microphone, camera and touch screen and supports Off TV play while for PS4 you need Vita that costs 200$ also EA only got license to make a game by Disneys term and no major Star Wars game avoided a Nintendo platform and Nintendo and Disney have fond relationship since Nintendo started making Disney cards so if EA says no then Disney will pull the license so Battlefront will come to Wii U because it is in Disneys interest and EA does not want to fuck with Walt Disney corporation because long term partnership will only bring crap load of money and keep wishing I am a fanboy you delusional idiot and you are right, I am not fooling anyone because I am telling the truth but you rather want to listen negative press and bad news...

edit; Least games? I am sorry but I already explained also Wii U has more because when competition will be out then it will be already a year ago and two exclusives will be out by that time and there will be in total of 5-6 exclusives for Wii U total when those two consoles get released.

 

[Dumac]

The Black system came with both for months and months.

I got my deluxe system at launch and it came with Nintendoland. See below:

the Deluxe bundle adds on a Nintendo Network Premium subscription, 32 GB of on-storage, a sensor bar, the Nintendo Land game (all regions except Japan), as well as stands for the console and controller.

Pikman3 didn't push a lot of console

It caused doubling of Wii U sales. Still, not a lot, but relatively an improvement.

The PS4 and XB1 will have more games on Day 1 than the WiiU got in an entire year.

Don't push it.

The PS4 and Xbone will have more games over time, but at launch? I don't think so.

Especially when it comes to exclusives.

 

[Aikouka]

NO, it is big shitty to you because you are casual, it has a gimmick and that is those blue/pink/red light that was to be used for camera that got ditched and that touch pad versus a Wii U gamepad that has microphone, camera and touch screen and supports Off TV play while for PS4 you need Vita that costs 200$

The LED in the controller is being used for other things. In fact, games can control it however they want. The guys at Supergiant Games (makers of Bastion) said that they will make the LED turn the same turquoise color of the Transistor weapon in the game of the same name. When the sword talks to you in the game, the sword flashes and so will the LED. Obviously, it isn't a huge deal, but there's one big difference...

A few LEDs are considerably cheaper than a LCD. Microsoft is a bit similar as they are packaging the Kinect 2, and that's definitely more costly.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Xbox Live was present singe original Xbox so NO, it is big shitty to you because you are casual, it has a gimmick and that is those blue/pink/red light that was to be used for camera that got ditched and that touch pad versus a Wii U gamepad that has microphone, camera and touch screen and supports Off TV play while for PS4 you need Vita that costs 200$ also EA only got license to make a game by Disneys term and no major Star Wars game avoided a Nintendo platform and Nintendo and Disney have fond relationship since Nintendo started making Disney cards so if EA says no then Disney will pull the license so Battlefront will come to Wii U because it is in Disneys interest and EA does not want to fuck with Walt Disney corporation because long term partnership will only bring crap load of money and keep wishing I am a fanboy you delusional idiot and you are right, I am not fooling anyone because I am telling the truth but you rather want to listen negative press and bad news...

edit; Least games? I am sorry but I already explained also Wii U has more because when competition will be out then it will be already a year ago and two exclusives will be out by that time and there will be in total of 5-6 exclusives for Wii U total when those two consoles get released.

Ok so if you're done making run on sentences that make no sense...come back to earth. Off screen play is a damn joke. Get a 3ds or something if you wanna play games off the TV. Not every game supports it anyhow so it's not even a feature. EA BOUGHT exclusive rights to the Star Wars name in all Video Games for a certain period of time. They pay money, they use the name. Disney is hands off. Just like the NFL license...the NFL was hands off and EA made whatever game they wanted. You obviously don't understand what an exclusive licence contract does. It means EA paid a certain amount of money (millions) to use the Star Wars name and make games. They can make any game they want for any platform. Disney gets the money up front and a certain percentage based on sales. Disney has absolutely no say in how they make these games. If they did, they would make all these games under the Disney Interactive banner which they aren't. They just want a paycheck from Star Wars and couldn't give two shits about it as a whole as long as it makes money.

You are seriously worse than anyone who is pro Nvidia or Pro AMD in the VC&G forum. You're unreasonable, don't make sense, have no understanding of the game market, overestimate your precious system, and severely lack in common sense.

 

[nextJin]

It caused doubling of Wii U sales. Still, not a lot, but relatively an improvement.

Pretty sure that's bullshit, but if it did having 4 instead of 2 Wii U's sold doesn't matter. It surely didn't sustain anything meaningful which is all that matters.

 

[Carmen813]

So you are telling people to get the worst system with the least games? The PS4 and XB1 will have more games on Day 1 than the WiiU got in an entire year.

For the record the 360's XBOX Live worked from day one. The entire premise of the WiiU is built on one big shitty gimmick so don't give us your BS about the DS4 being a gimmick controller lol. You really are grasping at straws and falling flat on your face every time. You may say "oh but that game will be on WiiU cause it's a Disney IP". Oh yeah? Last I checked EA licensed it meaning EA does whatever the hell they want with it cause they are paying for the Star Wars name. Disney has no say and doesn't care cause they are already paid millions just to stamp the name on the box. Second you don't honestly think the WiiU version of any game will be even one quarter of the game that comes out on PC, PS4, or XB1 do you? Sheesh...talk about fanboy.

You aren't fooling anybody.

Honestly, I think you may have me confused for someone else. Perhaps you should be a little more careful in your zeal to attack Nintendo - or learn a thing or two about writing.

Last generation I also owned a 360, PS3, and Wii - all at launch. I also own a high end gaming PC. I have a PS4 pre-ordered. Though I am excited about my PS4, I am not excited about it's launch line up. Driveclub and Killzone are all that I interest me at the moment. I want Infamous Second Son but I believe that is a 2014 title. For the Xbox One, I think Forza looks nice - the rest I'm not too interested in. For third party titles - I like the look of Watch Dogs, which is coming out on Wii U as well.

I standby what I said. Those looking to buy a new system this holiday should give the Wii U a close look. It offers some very nifty experiences - particularly Wind Waker and Pikmin 3. I am not certain the other systems offer the same value as the $300 Wind Waker bundle - though next year they might. Unless you live in Europe and can get one of those sweet bundles...sigh.NSMBU & Raymen Legends are also very good. You can also pick up some classic Wii games now for very cheap and play through those if you missed them. Long term the system may end up going the way of the Dreamcast. However, that does not change the fact that right now there is a lot of fun to be had if you like certain genres.

As for gimmicks - I think if you take an honest assessment of the systems you will see that all of them have one. Kinect, Touchpad, Gamepad. Of those three, I think the Gamepad is the one that adds the most to the gaming experience. Not to mention the continued motion controls.

If you want online functions or to play FPS' I think the PS4 and Xbox One are a no-brainer....but I get that on my PC.

 

[cmdrdredd]

As for gimmicks - I think if you take an honest assessment of the systems you will see that all of them have one. Kinect, Touchpad, Gamepad. Of those three, I think the Gamepad is the one that adds the most to the gaming experience. Not to mention the continued motion controls.

Kinect can be turned off, actually you don't even need to plug it in. So...meh I wouldn't even count that anymore cause it's not going to be forced, otherwise it would be built in such a way as to require connection. It'll probably never be used outside the same games the original kinect had.

 

[zerocool84]

Kinect can be turned off, actually you don't even need to plug it in. So...meh I wouldn't even count that anymore cause it's not going to be forced, otherwise it would be built in such a way as to require connection. It'll probably never be used outside the same games the original kinect had.

Which is dumb since you're forced to pay for it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Which is dumb since you're forced to pay for it.

It is what it is...at least it won't be tacked on to every game as an afterthought anyhow since it isn't guaranteed to be plugged in on every user's system. I fully expected the PS4 to come in at $500 and rumors before E3 seemed to indicate this too so I'm not really sure you're actually paying for Kinect.

 

[eyeofcore]

Ok so if you're done making run on sentences that make no sense...come back to earth. Off screen play is a damn joke. Get a 3ds or something if you wanna play games off the TV. Not every game supports it anyhow so it's not even a feature. EA BOUGHT exclusive rights to the Star Wars name in all Video Games for a certain period of time. They pay money, they use the name. Disney is hands off. Just like the NFL license...the NFL was hands off and EA made whatever game they wanted. You obviously don't understand what an exclusive licence contract does. It means EA paid a certain amount of money (millions) to use the Star Wars name and make games. They can make any game they want for any platform. Disney gets the money up front and a certain percentage based on sales. Disney has absolutely no say in how they make these games. If they did, they would make all these games under the Disney Interactive banner which they aren't. They just want a paycheck from Star Wars and couldn't give two shits about it as a whole as long as it makes money.

You are seriously worse than anyone who is pro Nvidia or Pro AMD in the VC&G forum. You're unreasonable, don't make sense, have no understanding of the game market, overestimate your precious system, and severely lack in common sense.

You need to come back to Earth, not me because I am on Earth and why don't you prepare for crash land with reality. Off-TV Play is supported by over 50 games on Wii U and it is a great option since those games are not on 3DS. You always accuse me of something that you actually fucking suffer from, you think it is that simple?! Hello, don't you know that there is conditions in the contract, so Disney would not pull the license if they made a Star Wars game with all people being gay and racism being present? Okay, that is extreme but in that scenario Disney would pull the license, remember recent SNK and Tommo incident?! Yea...