Should I get an Xbox One or a PS4?

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Lil Frier

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I still think the XB1 dashboard is a cluttered mess. Nearly everything is an app and not integrated into the OS directly. I think they're working on that though.

It's gotten better. The Party Chat isn't a sluggish disaster that takes forever to respond, for example. It's immediate to send invites and you join quickly. No idea on how the settings are, I never had a reason to mess with them.
 

cmdrdredd

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It's gotten better. The Party Chat isn't a sluggish disaster that takes forever to respond, for example. It's immediate to send invites and you join quickly. No idea on how the settings are, I never had a reason to mess with them.

I had to because I needed to adjust the volume and chat mixer options. Once I got them set I can use the astro mixamp to adjust the game vs chat volume etc. I just needed to tell the xbox to output volume at the max and set the audio mix to the middle so I can adjust manually. It was a bit hidden but I found it.
 

Scumdog

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Wow, I didn't expect so many replies! They have been really helpful.

I thought the differences between the consoles would be more important. I guess it does all come down to the exclusives (that's actually why I chose the 360 in the first place. It had L4D2). And I guess, from what I have seen, since the Xbox one has backwards compatibility, I could still play the 360 games on the 360 with a friend playing on the One. If that is true, then it doesn't really matter if I get something different.

Most of the games I am interested in are available on both, but there are a few I am interested in for just the PS4. The only Xbox games I was really interested in were also available for the 360, so I don’t need the Xbox one to play them (I don’t really care if they would look better, I'm not paying for a new console to play a game I could play right now with what I have). So I guess PS4 it is. Thanks!
 

railven

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Wow, I didn't expect so many replies! They have been really helpful.

I thought the differences between the consoles would be more important. I guess it does all come down to the exclusives (that's actually why I chose the 360 in the first place. It had L4D2). And I guess, from what I have seen, since the Xbox one has backwards compatibility, I could still play the 360 games on the 360 with a friend playing on the One. If that is true, then it doesn't really matter if I get something different.

Most of the games I am interested in are available on both, but there are a few I am interested in for just the PS4. The only Xbox games I was really interested in were also available for the 360, so I don’t need the Xbox one to play them (I don’t really care if they would look better, I'm not paying for a new console to play a game I could play right now with what I have). So I guess PS4 it is. Thanks!

Becareful on that, like 360 BC to Xbox, it's on a game-by-game basis. And I believe they are doing the BC in waves.

Here is more info:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility

EDIT: NVM, should have finished reading your post. EItherway, for future knowledge incase someone else asks you haha.
 

FierceGerbil

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I'm not a Xbox hater though admittedly I've never owned one. However there are merits to both. Xbox Live is definitely more "stable" than PSN. With that said the last I checked the xbone still couldn't achieve 1080p though I believe that's not due to the hardware as much as programmers find it easier to work with the hardware of the PS4. PlayStation also is getting early access dlc on multi platform games which Xbox held for so long. PS4 will support 4K, if it doesn't already. I don't have a 4K tv so I haven't payed attention to whether uhd was added in previous updates. My advice to all. Do your research and hope you're happy.....or buy both.
 

Bman123

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Neither one of those consoles can run anything in 4k, hell half the time they can't run 1080p above 30fps
 

FierceGerbil

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Neither one of those consoles can run anything in 4k, hell half the time they can't run 1080p above 30fps

You are correct! Upon further research 4K is not supported at this time. Both systems have hardware limitations. Current models could possibly support 4K in the future but it would be a compromise at best. When Xbox One and PS4 get their improved models designed, if not already, and released they could adopt the necessary hardware to truly support UHD. Neither Sony or Microsoft are saying they won't support 4K picture and video but they're also tight lipped about the subject. 4K gaming? Probably won't see that until they put out Xbox Two and PS5.......or whatever they are gonna call them.
 

Bubblehappy

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Who has the best deal on a XBO these days? I seem to remember recently a link to a dell deal that included a headset and fallout 4 but I can't seem to find it.
 

jlee

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L4D2 is on PC - that's not really 'xBox exclusive' IMO.

Agreed, that seals the Xbox One for me. Don't need a zombie cover shooter.

TLoU is pretty well universally regarded as one of the best games in recent memory.
 

Lil Frier

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TLoU is pretty well universally regarded as one of the best games in recent memory.

I mean, I really don't care. My point was that his naming of one game and having no discussion is moronic. The Last of Us legitimately gives me no interest whatsoever in a PS4, and when/if I get one, I won't even bother with the game. I mean, hell, GTA V is considered a great game, and I find it to just be a big mess of mediocre things thrown together to make something mainstream.
 

Topweasel

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I mean, I really don't care. My point was that his naming of one game and having no discussion is moronic. The Last of Us legitimately gives me no interest whatsoever in a PS4, and when/if I get one, I won't even bother with the game. I mean, hell, GTA V is considered a great game, and I find it to just be a big mess of mediocre things thrown together to make something mainstream.

Even on that users end it may be a good reason for a PS4 but not necessarily a good reason for a PS4 over an Xbox. As someone who absolutely adored TLoU and thinks its probably the best gaming experience that I have had in about a decade. If I had to restrict myself to one console, knowing that I would miss out on TLoU2 if I got an Xbone. I would still get an Xbone over a PS4. Just in exclusives while not as great on a single level of game play as maybe some of the best PS exclusives, the Xbox list is constantly evolving allowing me to actively use my console.

That is the problem with Sony they can have the greatest list of games and take up a lot of head space, but the wait for them is excruciating at times. Eventually Sony's studios will get on a roll and games will come out on a decent clip. But this has been a pretty bad 2 years exclusive wise for the PS4.
 

jlee

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Even on that users end it may be a good reason for a PS4 but not necessarily a good reason for a PS4 over an Xbox. As someone who absolutely adored TLoU and thinks its probably the best gaming experience that I have had in about a decade. If I had to restrict myself to one console, knowing that I would miss out on TLoU2 if I got an Xbone. I would still get an Xbone over a PS4. Just in exclusives while not as great on a single level of game play as maybe some of the best PS exclusives, the Xbox list is constantly evolving allowing me to actively use my console.

That is the problem with Sony they can have the greatest list of games and take up a lot of head space, but the wait for them is excruciating at times. Eventually Sony's studios will get on a roll and games will come out on a decent clip. But this has been a pretty bad 2 years exclusive wise for the PS4.

Yet somehow they are utterly dominating in console sales.

I have so little time to play games these days that a smaller library is largely irrelevant - I'm not remotely caught up on my PC backlog, let alone anything else. Microsoft annoyed me with the big-brother-esque shit they were pulling with the Xbox One before launch; between that and the absurd hardware advantage the PS4 has, I went PS4.

But hey, to each their own

Edit: Being that I've been out of the console world for quite a long time, I did some looking around. From what I saw, the PS4 game lineup was arguably stronger:

link:
Though it was a close call in a number of categories (excluding the Japan Factor), Sony in our analysis seems to have Microsoft beaten in more than a few ways. The sheer number of games on PlayStation 4 not available on Xbox is staggering when you factor in both Japanese titles and indie games, and while Microsoft has an incredibly strong first-party lineup, Sony's dominance in every other category makes the PS4 the clear winner of this showdown.

Not that our analysis is in any way scientific. When it comes down to it, a gamer's console of choice should come down to the games they want to play and what console they will be available on. Whether it is Halo on Xbox One or Uncharted on PlayStation 4, there is plenty of gaming goodness all around. Sony's platform simply has more goodness to choose from.

Is Halo/GoW the primary advantage you see the Xbox having? I'm legitimately curious, as I'm just dipping my toes into the water here. I'll be lucky if I get through the games that came with my console before the end of the year, let alone anything else!
 
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Lil Frier

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Is Halo/GoW the primary advantage you see the Xbox having? I'm legitimately curious, as I'm just dipping my toes into the water here. I'll be lucky if I get through the games that came with my console before the end of the year, let alone anything else!

I don't like the whole "quantity" argument. End of the day, a lot of what Sony builds that quantity on is low-key or niche stuff. The Japanese games obviously have a strong appeal outside of Japan, but the Japanese market they seemed specifically aimed at has rejected home consoles almost entirely. Those exclusives aren't system sellers, they're not big cash draws (though their financial commitment is probably also much smaller). The indie stuff can often come out as something highly derivative of larger releases, or it can just be a reskinned experience with a little bit of change (see: the swarms of indie platformers and retro-style graphic experiences with little beyond shallow, redundant gameplay).

Halo is the top franchise for the Xbox, that's long been the case. Gears is another, but that's far from where the story ends. Forza is probably second to Halo, not Gears, and Sony really doesn't offer anything to combat that series (Driveclub counters Forza about as well as Killzone counters Halo). Microsoft also backed Ryse, from the Crysis crew, and they backed Insomniac in their post-Ratchet & Clank endeavor that was Sunset Overdrive (really nice game, IMO). Quantum Break is next from Remedy, who handled the original Max Payne titles (before Rockstar made the third) and the well-received Alan Wake. Scalebound's coming from Platinum Games (who seems to work on something exclusive for everyone, haha), and it should fill a decent RPG nice, along with the free-to-play Fable: Legends. I could throw out more names, but I just don't want to keep typing, haha.
 

Lil Frier

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I still don't even know what Shenmue actually is. I know it's a game, but I know nothing about it.

You can guess which consoles I've owned from that, I'm guessing (though I did have a PS2).
 

jlee

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I don't like the whole "quantity" argument. End of the day, a lot of what Sony builds that quantity on is low-key or niche stuff. The Japanese games obviously have a strong appeal outside of Japan, but the Japanese market they seemed specifically aimed at has rejected home consoles almost entirely. Those exclusives aren't system sellers, they're not big cash draws (though their financial commitment is probably also much smaller). The indie stuff can often come out as something highly derivative of larger releases, or it can just be a reskinned experience with a little bit of change (see: the swarms of indie platformers and retro-style graphic experiences with little beyond shallow, redundant gameplay).

Halo is the top franchise for the Xbox, that's long been the case. Gears is another, but that's far from where the story ends. Forza is probably second to Halo, not Gears, and Sony really doesn't offer anything to combat that series (Driveclub counters Forza about as well as Killzone counters Halo). Microsoft also backed Ryse, from the Crysis crew, and they backed Insomniac in their post-Ratchet & Clank endeavor that was Sunset Overdrive (really nice game, IMO). Quantum Break is next from Remedy, who handled the original Max Payne titles (before Rockstar made the third) and the well-received Alan Wake. Scalebound's coming from Platinum Games (who seems to work on something exclusive for everyone, haha), and it should fill a decent RPG nice, along with the free-to-play Fable: Legends. I could throw out more names, but I just don't want to keep typing, haha.

I find that ironic, because the sales figures indicate Japan likes the Xbox even less:
http://n4g.com/news/1788337/ps4-vs-xbox-one-vs-wii-u-japan-lifetime-sales-july-2015-update said:
PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 1,601,287

Xbox One Total Sales: 55,767

Wii U Total Sales: 2,470,045"

I've never caught the Halo bug, probably because I was playing shooters on PC before they were cool on console.
 

Lil Frier

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I've never caught the Halo bug, probably because I was playing shooters on PC before they were cool on console.

I mean, I grew up watching my dad play Quake and Unreal on PC, and I played a bit of Quake on his account as a kid. In fact, the first Xbox LIVE shooter was Unreal, which I played the heck out of as well. Starting shooters on PC didn't stop me from enjoying them on console.
 

jlee

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I mean, I grew up watching my dad play Quake and Unreal on PC, and I played a bit of Quake on his account as a kid. In fact, the first Xbox LIVE shooter was Unreal, which I played the heck out of as well. Starting shooters on PC didn't stop me from enjoying them on console.

I think I've got a few years on ya.

They aren't bad games, don't get me wrong - I just don't have the rabid fascination with 'omg halo' like so many people do. It wasn't revolutionary to me as it seems to have been to the Xbox world - it was just another shooter.

Honestly though the biggest reason I am not buying Microsoft consoles is because of all the crap they pulled during the Xbox One pre-release days.
 
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Kenmitch

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The world of console exclusive games kind of sucks.

Recently bought a Ps4 as too me it's the better option than Xbone. Got some games I want to play that are only available on Ps4 so I'm happy with it.

Wound up selling my old gaming rig and GTX 970 on craiglist to cover the cost with enough left over to buy a Xbone if wanted.

Got the itch to play Tomb Raider so picked up the Xbone Tomb Raider bundle at Best Buy on launch that included a free $50 gift card at the time. They had promo starting the following Friday which also included a free game of choice. When I took my receipt back to claim the game they didn't have any issue doing it. Manager just told the lady to return the console, add it back, add the game which zeros out. The system automatically generated another $50 gift card, manager said most likely it'll just zero out the 1st one anyways. Walked out with Black Ops III and a $50 gift card. Checked next day both cards showed $50. Got a liveable deal on the Xbone. $399-$50-$50=$299. Sold Black Ops to son for $40 so I'm down to $259 for a 1tb console. If I deduct current digital download value of $59 for Tomb Raider and reward $'s I'm in it for less than $200 in the end.

Game/Gold sharing with my son sweetens the deal. Nice of Microsoft to allow such a thing.

Used both gift cards towards the Elite controller which is back ordered. Figure might as well see if it works for me. My son said he'll buy it off me if I don't like it anyways so figure I can't lose anyways. Probably could make a profit on it depending on supply vs demand if he changes his mind.

My current 4790k,16GB, 1TB SSD rig is sporting integrated graphics on web, email duty. Figure it's just a gpu away from being a gaming rig again. Probably hold off till the next launch and take a look at the offerings.

I'm older so I kind of prefer the couch potato gaming style of the console world anyways.

Just got to wait it out for some Black Friday deals on games now.
 

Sonikku

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Is it true that games you get from games for gold are permanent, while PSN games become unplayable the instant your sub lapses?
 

jlee

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Is it true that games you get from games for gold are permanent, while PSN games become unplayable the instant your sub lapses?

As I understand, paid games are yours to keep, but free games will not be usable until your PS+ account is active again. (unsure on Gold)
 
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