Should I get this emachine?

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: nick1985
830 for a computer with onboard video?


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[Tostada]

Originally posted by: spazo
Edit: I'm being to wonder if you people actually read my posts...I've said this twice already, I can get that emachines for $600

I already have a Ti4400 so my gaming needs are satisfied for now. The card is probably seriously being held back by my Sony pc with pc133 ram and willamette p4...

Anyways, I'm more concerned for bang for the buck. It seems its hard to beat tthat emachines especially if it has an agp slot.

No need for that. There were replies (like mine) which obviously took into account that you said you could get it for $600. Did you read them?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

$600 makes it a good deal if it has an AGP slot.

 

[viivo]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
$600 makes it a good deal if it has an AGP slot.

Finally, someone tells this guy what he wanted to hear all along. I just can't believe it took this long.

 

[spazo]

Originally posted by: Tostada

Originally posted by: spazo
Edit: I'm being to wonder if you people actually read my posts...I've said this twice already, I can get that emachines for $600

I already have a Ti4400 so my gaming needs are satisfied for now. The card is probably seriously being held back by my Sony pc with pc133 ram and willamette p4...

Anyways, I'm more concerned for bang for the buck. It seems its hard to beat tthat emachines especially if it has an agp slot.

No need for that. There were replies (like mine) which obviously took into account that you said you could get it for $600. Did you read them?

I've read them and I would like to thank you for your help although I can't say that to many of the other posters...Maybe I'm just an ass but when somebody wants some help, I believe you should at least know what his/her problem is before answering.

 

[Tostada]

The point is that even if it's a "good deal" financially speaking for those particular parts, there's not much interesting about the system itself. You could build that same system for less using parts which are probably less generic than those the eMachines version uses:

$219 - P4 3.0 Northwood Retail
$75 - ABIT IS-10 micro-ATX i865G
$92 - Samsung 160GB PATA
$86 - 2 x 512MB Mushkin Basic PC3200
$68.99 - NEC 2500A DVD-R/+R
$34.00 - Codegen CAT-3305-B 300W case

That's $574.99. It has an AGP slot, too, and it probably has a better motherboard/RAM/HDD.

If someone were to come on here and ask if they should build the above system for $574.99, though, people would ask why.

People would tell him not to use a generic power supply, and I'm sure the eMachines system uses a generic power supply.

People would tell him he could save $15 by getting a board without integrated graphics if he was just going to put his old GeForce in there.

People would ask him why he wanted to use a P4 3.0 if he was so concerned with budget.

And if he's going to be using his GF Ti 4400, then there are probably other parts he could be reusing from his old system, too. If, however, he actually wants that system along with the floppy and keyboard and trial version of MS Money 2004, it's a good deal.

 

[Tostada]

Originally posted by: spazo
I've read them and I would like to thank you for your help although I can't say that to many of the other posters...Maybe I'm just an ass but when somebody wants some help, I believe you should at least know what his/her problem is before answering.

Yeah, but if everybody put thought into their posts, I doubt there'd be so many people with 10,000+ posts.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Tostada
The point is that even if it's a "good deal" financially speaking for those particular parts, there's not much interesting about the system itself. You could build that same system for less using parts which are probably less generic than those the eMachines version uses:

$219 - P4 3.0 Northwood Retail
$75 - ABIT IS-10 micro-ATX i865G
$92 - Samsung 160GB PATA
$86 - 2 x 512MB Mushkin Basic PC3200
$68.99 - NEC 2500A DVD-R/+R
$34.00 - Codegen CAT-3305-B 300W case

That's $574.99. It has an AGP slot, too, and it probably has a better motherboard/RAM/HDD.

If someone were to come on here and ask if they should build the above system for $574.99, though, people would ask why.

People would tell him not to use a generic power supply, and I'm sure the eMachines system uses a generic power supply.

People would tell him he could save $15 by getting a board without integrated graphics if he was just going to put his old GeForce in there.

People would ask him why he wanted to use a P4 3.0 if he was so concerned with budget.

And if he's going to be using his GF Ti 4400, then there are probably other parts he could be reusing from his old system, too. If, however, he actually wants that system along with the floppy and keyboard and trial version of MS Money 2004, it's a good deal.

Where is the copy of windows XP in your price list? and you have a typo too, the ram is 256mbx2 for that price. It's irrelevant if he has a copy of XP already that he could transfer because it's included with the system for $600 so you have to match the entire config when showing a DIY config vs it for value. Also, though it's a debatable point, I always factor in labor required as well, which needs at least $50 credit IMO. I know your main point is that he could canabalize his present system for some of the parts but then my reply is that judging by the fact he has a Sony P4 Willy with SDRAM setup that there is little worth salvaging for the new system beyond his vid card and the monitor which he is probably planning to use also. He will also have a complete PC system minus monitor this way that he can sell to recoupe some of the 6 bills he invested in the new one should he choose to do so.

The whole deal hinges on it having an AGP slot, if it does it's a good deal and after selling off the old rig could be as little as $300 out of pocket for the upgrade without the work and potential hassles that come with DIYing it. Which considering his present rig is an OEM too, suggests he is not very experienced as a system builder, and that means the time, effort, research, and potential for SNAFUs increases significantly if that is indeed the case.

The prejudice the DIY community has toward OEMs is understandable on a whole, but hot deals on OEM systems that include a legit copy of XP, warranty, and require little to no work are the exception to the rule although you wouldn't know it from the reaction they invariably recieve around here.

 

[spazo]

yes, no, yes, no

So I guess its really up to me as to if I should get it or not...anyways I've taken apart my Sony once before and put it together in working order so I'm guessing that sorta counts as expierence..:laugh:

and thanks for the understanding my situation DAPUNISHER

 

[thirdlegstump]

Realizing you're a bit of a newbie, get that $600 box. It's a great deal, but if you're feeling adventurous
and want to go for something more appealing from a hardware enthusiast's point of view, pay a bit more and
build your own rig. It can be a satisfying and rewarding experience although you'll be your own support guy.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

No problemo I've jumped on a few Dell hot deals myself in the past, then resold a couple months later at a nice profit with the remaining warranties in tact and transfered, and without any of the work I have to do on the white boxes I sell. I have found it's a winning combo when there is similar profit for far less work, and in partivcular, not having to provide support&service! :beer:

BTW, just playing with your OEM is some good experience, but the time it'll take you to build a DIY from scratch will be considerable given you aren't an experienced builder, and if you hit a single snag it'll likely turn into a hair pulling, stressful, "it wasn't worth the couple of bucks I saved over that eMachines" ordeal. The pide and satifaction of building your own is fine, but even that wears off fast, especially when the experienced DIY members here continuously re-iterate that a monkey could build PCs

Anywho, I'd say get it once confirming it has a AGP slot and that you won't get jacked on shipping or any other hidden costs as well.

 

[ja83]

Yeah if that comes with an agp slot then for $600 it's not too bad. I say get it, it's your cash anyways.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: spazo
yes, no, yes, no

So I guess its really up to me as to if I should get it or not...anyways I've taken apart my Sony once before and put it together in working order so I'm guessing that sorta counts as expierence..:laugh:

and thanks for the understanding my situation DAPUNISHER

that emachines is a good deal if you can get it for $600. people here really like assembling their own computers. if you don't mind taking the time and energery to assemble one, then that's all and well. i've replaced my the motherboard and cpu in my computer once. it was the biggest pain in the ass. personally, i have better things to do with my time.

in short, if you have the time, assemble the computer yourself. if you don't, then get that emachine.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: bluewall21
Its not bad. The mobo specs are listed here.

if that's the mobo..it'll do fine ..

My old Duron 700 with a Radeon 7000 AGP is WAY faster in games than the 2.53 Ghz P4 with Intel Extreme Graphics and I am not exgerating in the least.

hehe..love doing such to a Dell 2.8 Celeron with Intel graphics..it does mess with their ..speed is everything mindset..

 

[us3rnotfound]

Originally posted by: nick1985
830 for a computer with onboard video?


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Your mom?

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[ja83]

Originally posted by: shminu

Originally posted by: nick1985
830 for a computer with onboard video?


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Your mom?

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ROFL!! That was great! hahahahha

 

[bigboxes]

No.

 

[Cawchy87]

emachines are never worth anything! I have 2 friends with ones and 1 completely doesn't work anymore, and the other has slowed to a crawl and is not even usable anymore (700mhz) tried reformating etc.

STAY AWAY FROM E-MACHINES

 

[spazo]

Thanks for the response guys but I've decided against it. I don't really need another computer and my current one is fine. I'll definately buy a new one in about 3 years time unless theres some amazing deal thats too hard to pass on...

Btw I tried playing Far Cry today, hehehe...my current pc sucks so badly I'm gonna cry but at least its still good enough for UT2004...

 

[imported_Bruin711]

I would not get an e-machine. They are terrible and not easy to upgrade. Just build your own.

 

[eno]

Go with the home build. Emachine are alot better than they used to be. I just purchased their M6805 (amd64) laptop and LOVE it. I also work with them 5days a week, they are not bad systems, usually somewhat decent boards but of course crappy 200w power supplies. Still I would build my own.

 

[Tostada]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
and you have a typo too, the ram is 256mbx2 for that price.

Oops!

My point is that YES, it is a good deal for the parts you're getting, but for the same money you'd be better off getting something different, i.e. something with a cheaper CPU but better parts in general.

 

[spinningm0nkey]

emachines = :thumbsdown:

gateway = :thumbsdown:

home built = :thumbsup:

 

[Zebo]

Dude we could build a comp for $600 WITH a 19" monitor that would trump this POS.

But you seem to be a victim on Intels hype so I'll assist on the premise you want to stay INTEL.


Here ya go $520 with the overpriced 3.0 P4 and every componet is better.

ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" $64.00
Sony Black 52x32x52x16 Combo Drive, Model CRX320E Black $40.00
NEC 1.44MB Black Internal Floppy Drive, OEM $10.99
SAMSUNG 160GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model SP1604N, $92.00
PMI-Power Memory Int. 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - $68.00
PCCHIPS "M938LU" SiS650GX Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU - $42.00
Intel Pentium 4/ 3.0C GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper retail- $219.00

Product total: $524.99

Totally free fedex shipping from newegg on this setup! And no tax outside Ca NJ TN.

 

[Zebo]

BTW where are you seeing $600?!?! I see an outragous $829.99 for this emachine PLUS TAX in every state PLUS shipping.