Should I go for a Masters degree in IT?

LW07

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I will be a junior at my university, Arkansas Tech University, in the Fall of this year. I've been reading about how hard it is to find jobs in this economy. Should I start looking for jobs when I graduate in May 2013 or should I go for a Masters degree and hope things improve by May 2015?
 

Christobevii3

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Masters in IT = doing research or planning on being a teacher. Go do shit help desktop support now while in school or you will graduate unwanted by anyone. You don't get a degree in "it".
 

HybridSquirrel

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experience in IT > degrees

this.


I don't have a degree in "it" but I have experience. I got this tech support analyst job recently and I have a degree in history, but I did desktop support for a long time....


Hell a drunken idiot could teach himself IT.....


edit: my supervisor doesn't even have a college diploma, he's making 80grand a year. Experience > everything.
 

dlock13

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Another question, is temping a good way to go in this economy?

Well, here's a question for you... Does it earn you some experience?

Temp, look for another job, and wham. You're good to go.
 

punjabiplaya

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Oh, I also forgot to mention connections/networking. Soooooooo very important, it comes with the experience.
 

MarkXIX

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Masters degree would be a waste of valuable time and resources. Finish your 4-year degree and get in the market. Slam through a few certifications while working at a helpdesk or something so you get some real world experience to back it up and in 5 years you'll be doing fine.
 

LW07

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Another question, are IT jobs as affected by downsizing and recessions as other jobs are?
 

dlock13

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Another question, are IT jobs as affected by downsizing and recessions as other jobs are?

For the most part, I don't honestly think they are. IT requires experience therefore if they layoff someone, well, they'd better have a pretty damned good team/backup. IT doesn't require incredible knowledge, but like we said earlier in the thread, it requires experience, and if you get rid of an employee with experience, then you're shooting your foot.

I think you can understand where I'm going with this. IT is still affected, but not as much since the learning curve is rather long, and I doubt a company would waste money firing someone experienced to hire someone inexperienced to learn a new way of doing things and then train them for 2-3 months.
 

jingramm

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Indians will soon be taking all IT jobs in the US, if they are not being outsourced to India already. Many Indians on H1B visas taking American jobs.
 

EagleKeeper

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Masters in IT will set you up for a supervisory role in industry

IF

  • you have some experience
  • the shop is big enough to have more than 4-5 techs
  • you get some business classes also

other than that , it is jsut a stall job to avoid going out into the world and proving yourself
 

xSauronx

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IT jobs are the point man for "down sizing," "restructuring" and, being "outsourced."

seriously, havent there been thousands and thousands of IT layoffs in the last 3 or 4 years? and didnt Cisco just announce they want to cut $1B in expenses this year, with a large portion of that coming through layoffs/early retirement packages?
 

dwell

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experience in IT > degrees

This. I know guys who practically didn't graduate high school who kick the ass of PhDs when it comes to development. In fact, I never met a PhD worth a damn in the CS field. Masters holders are generally pretty good because most get their degree while working in the field. PhD holders are generally those who hide in college all their lives.
 

Bignate603

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Another question, is temping a good way to go in this economy?

If you don't have a job in your field and can get an IT temp job it's a good way to get your foot in the door. Some temp jobs can turn into permanent employment, but even if it doesn't it's something to put on your resume.
 

ultimatebob

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Sure... how else are you going to get one of those 500K top salaries mentioned in the other IT topic

Seriously though, IT is a horrible field to get into. The customers are nasty, the work is frustrating and repetitive, and you'll be expected to constantly perform miracles with insane deadlines and no money for equipment and training. Look into another field if you can.

Oh... and you job may cease to exist six months from now due to outsourcing.
 

IndyColtsFan

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No, don't do it unless an employer is paying for it. Try to find a job in the field to start building your experience.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Seriously though, IT is a horrible field to get into. The customers are nasty, the work is frustrating and repetitive, and you'll be expected to constantly perform miracles with insane deadlines and no money for equipment and training. Look into another field if you can.

Oh... and you job may cease to exist six months from now due to outsourcing.

This. I would choose something else if I had it to do over. To illustrate a recent example of ultimatebob's post, let me tell a story.

I had a funny interview yesterday for a consulting job. They asked me about one of my current projects. Keep in mind that I am the only person in my company who does Sharepoint and I had already listed off several other HUGE projects I have to get done. There is no way it would be humanly possible for me to get them all done over the summer.

Anyway, this particular project was an upgrade of a mission-critical system and they asked me what my plan was. I mentioned that the plan was to engage professional services of the software company and they'd have to help me, as I have not had any training whatsoever on the product. The guy actually said to me "Uh, you've mentioned formal training a couple of times. Do you really need formal training to learn?" The question didn't bother me, but the tone he used did. But I remained calm and didn't decide to have fun with it like I did in this interview.

That told me a lot about the company and there is no way I would accept a position there if offered. Yes, I do have a lab at home and do tinker and learn things. However, I'm not 25 and single anymore -- I'm sorry, but I am not spending every waking moment either at work or working in my lab. I'm 40 years old and have a wife, a big home to take care of, and a family and hobbies to keep me busy as well.

At any rate, I really felt like slapping the douchecanoe, but whatever -- go ahead and hire the nerd with no life. He might know more than me or spend more time in his home lab, but I promise you this -- I would kick his ass up one side and down another as an employee. You can't gain 17+ years of IT experience by reading a book or playing in a lab. In fact, we used to make fun of job applicants whose sole experience with a product was in their home lab, so I NEVER claim experience with a product unless I've actually used it in a production environment.
 
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poopaskoopa

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I'd advise against IT myself, but if you had to do it, then having a master's degree will likely help you advance up the ladder. I've worked for IT companies, and having a masters in IS does seem to help advance one's career. It's another tiebreaker between you and the next applicant for a management position. Coming out of college, though, you will not be applying for those people's jobs, but after a few years it'll probably give you an edge. How big of an edge will depend on who you work for and what you're doing.
 

manlymatt83

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All depends on how you define IT, too.

Big difference between desktop support person and Oracle DBA/Linux Engineer.
 
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