Should I suck it up and buy a 1070

[RadiclDreamer]

I currently have a Geforce 770 4GB with a 4670k. I want to play the new Doom at full settings and have buttery smooth framerates. I've been waiting a bit now to snag a 1080 (non-FE) to pair with a 6700k so I can do so, while simultaneously giving my son my hand me down rig which will be an upgrade from his 3570k+750Ti 2gb.

I've been trying to find some info on when the 1080 are expected to be released in sufficient quantities that I can buy one without paying massively inflated over MSRP prices. Have there been any credible rumors on when this would likely happen or should I just suck it up and grab a 1070 and save a few bucks while im at it?

 

[HOOfan 1]

What resolution? the RX 480 can apparently run Doom over 70 fps with Vulkan at 1440p.

I don't think you will find RX 480, GTX 1070 or GTX 1080 easy to find at their MSRPs any time soon.

 

[R0H1T]

Custom RX 480, if Doom is your primary focus, also for upcoming DX12/Vulkan titles.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

In doom the 480 gets awfully close to a 1070.

Prices are a bit inflated, but not as much as with the 1070.

 

[swilli89]

I currently have a Geforce 770 4GB with a 4670k. I want to play the new Doom at full settings and have buttery smooth framerates. I've been waiting a bit now to snag a 1080 (non-FE) to pair with a 6700k so I can do so, while simultaneously giving my son my hand me down rig which will be an upgrade from his 3570k+750Ti 2gb.

I've been trying to find some info on when the 1080 are expected to be released in sufficient quantities that I can buy one without paying massively inflated over MSRP prices. Have there been any credible rumors on when this would likely happen or should I just suck it up and grab a 1070 and save a few bucks while im at it?

Had you bought an equivalent to the 770, a Radeon 290, you would be able to run DOOM with Vulcan at any setting you desired. Why do I keep seeing what is perhaps the most badly burned generation of gpu buyers (Kepler buyers) actually thinking about returning to nVidia?

DOOM and probably every other game built on Unreal 4 is dominated by AMD. You could spend $300 on a Fury and Match a 1080 in DOOM for less than half the cost!

 

[guskline]

RadiclDreamer:

I'll tell you what I did. I followed the upcoming release of the GTX 1080/1070 in April/ May and decided I would move my GTX 980TI SC to my 4790K rig from my 5960x rig and buy a GTX 1080. I previously had 2 R9 290s in CF in my 4790k rig but wanted to go with a single high end card in each rig. Unfortunately AMD's Vega is nowhere to be seen and since I had such good success with the GTX 980TI, another Nvidia card was what I would buy (didn't hurt that I had @$700 in Newegg gift cards either!)

Anyway, when the GTX1080s were released it became apparent that the aftermarket cards were going to be delayed. I originally wanted an EVGA GTX 1080 SC but I just couldn't find one. I was constantly hitting the Newegg webpage and I finally saw the ZOTAC GTX 1080FE was available. I jumped at it and I'm glad I did. I purchased it June 10 and received it June 15. Since I custom water cool and I already had an EK Waterblock so I needed a standard pcb and all FE cards are built on a standard pcb as is the EVGA SC. It would have been $50 less expensive to buy an EVGA GTX 1080 SC for $649 instead of the $699 I paid for the FE card BUT try to find one!
I quickly shifted to buying any standard GTX 1080 at $699 or less. Thus the ZOTAC FE.

I will say that while removing the FE cooler to attach my waterblock I was VERY impressed with the quality of the FE fan system. I'm very pleased with it.

If you want a GTX 1080 snag the first one that becomes available at $699 or below.

Good luck.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I currently have a Geforce 770 4GB with a 4670k. I want to play the new Doom at full settings and have buttery smooth framerates. I've been waiting a bit now to snag a 1080 (non-FE) to pair with a 6700k so I can do so, while simultaneously giving my son my hand me down rig which will be an upgrade from his 3570k+750Ti 2gb.

I've been trying to find some info on when the 1080 are expected to be released in sufficient quantities that I can buy one without paying massively inflated over MSRP prices. Have there been any credible rumors on when this would likely happen or should I just suck it up and grab a 1070 and save a few bucks while im at it?

1080s are awesome, I say go for it, wait for AIB cards at sub-FE prices to come in stock. 1080 overclocked is a dream to use.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Had you bought an equivalent to the 770, a Radeon 290, you would be able to run DOOM with Vulcan at any setting you desired. Why do I keep seeing what is perhaps the most badly burned generation of gpu buyers (Kepler buyers) actually thinking about returning to nVidia?

DOOM and probably every other game built on Unreal 4 is dominated by AMD. You could spend $300 on a Fury and Match a 1080 in DOOM for less than half the cost!

The OP is asking for advice on whether to buy a 1070 or a 1080. I don't think "shaming" the OP for picking the "wrong" graphics card in hindsight is really all that helpful.

 

[krumme]

A 480 is only 10% behind a 1070 in doom.
When next gen nv card arives or vega its the big boost for vulcan doom dx12.

 

[R0H1T]

The OP is asking for advice on whether to buy a 1070 or a 1080, not to be shamed for picking the "wrong" graphics card based on hindsight.

And you're selling him an overpriced GPU :hmm:

1080s are awesome, I say go for it, wait for AIB cards at sub-FE prices to come in stock. 1080 overclocked is a dream to use.

Oh please FE is not MSRP & shouldn't be used as a justification to pay a premium over it, in fact you're making it sound as if the custom card is a bargain just cause FE D:

 

[Kenmitch]

The OP is asking for advice on whether to buy a 1070 or a 1080, not to be shamed for picking the "wrong" graphics card based on hindsight.

Maybe he just thinks Nvidia would be the best choice based on popularity and doesn't really know otherwise. I won't argue either way.

As far as the original poster goes it's really up to you what you want to purchase in the end.

If you really think you need a 1080 but are willing to settle for a 1070 because you can order one right now then the best option is going with EVGA. If you decide you need more than the 1070 just do the step up program.

Here's 2 currently in stock. Free expedited shipping.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1262834-REG/evga_08g_p4_6173_kr_geforce_gtx_1070_sc.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1262833-REG/evga_08g_p4_6171_kr_geforce_gtx_1070_acx.html

 

[poofyhairguy]

The OP is asking for advice on whether to buy a 1070 or a 1080.

To play Doom. For that reason alone the 480 should be part of the consideration set, as it performs close to a 1070 for way less (hell you could buy two for less than a 1080).

 

[Nhirlathothep]

used 980ti for you

when it s possible avoid amd, their drivers is something you don t want in your pc

(i had and have tons of their gpus, my experience in amd side is huger than nvidia side)


Trolling and threadcrapping are not allowed.
Markfw900

 

[R0H1T]

used 980ti for you

when it s possible avoid amd, their drivers is something you don t want in your pc

(i had and have tons of their gpus, my experience in amd side is huger than nvidia side)

If this isn't blatant trolling I dunno what is

 

[HOOfan 1]

Had you bought an equivalent to the 770, a Radeon 290, you would be able to run DOOM with Vulcan at any setting you desired. Why do I keep seeing what is perhaps the most badly burned generation of gpu buyers (Kepler buyers) actually thinking about returning to nVidia?

DOOM and probably every other game built on Unreal 4 is dominated by AMD. You could spend $300 on a Fury and Match a 1080 in DOOM for less than half the cost!

Doom isn't even remotely Unreal engine 4.

No reason to whine about what he bought 2 generations ago.

 

[boozzer]

for doom 100% go with a 3rd party 480. should be available in a week or 2. This is the case since you only ask about doom.

edit: there are now (2 troll) posters here lying to you op and trying to pull you under the dead waves of 1070.

that is exactly what I don't want to see in a thread asking for opinions and help. that is blatant sabotaging a gamer asking for help.

 

[SViscusi]

used 980ti for you

when it s possible avoid amd, their drivers is something you don t want in your pc

(i had and have tons of their gpus, my experience in amd side is huger than nvidia side)

Can we knock it off with this nonsense. Both companies have had major driver issues but both companies generally have good drivers and are both pretty responsive. Barring extremely unlikely combinations with known issues or incredibly specific needs where one company has a driver feature a person can't live without like day 1 performance in a sponsored game, no one needs to consider drivers when spending 200+ dollars on a video cards.

You may think AMD has more issues because you have more exposure to AMD cards and if you've gone through tons, you've swapped in and out a lot which is always going to introduce more issues. You can't extrapolate your personal experiences to such generalities.

 

[Raising]

Why are people quick to dismiss the fact that there's a vulcan Doom patch for pascal in the works that should improve the performance ?

Did you miss the AoS benchmarks where the 480 is only a few percent better in there vs the 1060 ?

@ Op grab a 1060/1070 or aftermarket 480.

 

[RussianSensation]

I currently have a Geforce 770 4GB with a 4670k. I want to play the new Doom at full settings and have buttery smooth framerates. I've been waiting a bit now to snag a 1080 (non-FE) to pair with a 6700k so I can do so, while simultaneously giving my son my hand me down rig which will be an upgrade from his 3570k+750Ti 2gb.

I've been trying to find some info on when the 1080 are expected to be released in sufficient quantities that I can buy one without paying massively inflated over MSRP prices. Have there been any credible rumors on when this would likely happen or should I just suck it up and grab a 1070 and save a few bucks while im at it?

Don't waste your $$ on the GTX1080 period. Many people on this forum just want the best videocard regardless of the cost. You are going to have a disproportionate amount of gamers who will pay hundreds of dollars more for 20% more performance because they want the best. They would have bought the 1080 even if it cost $799 or $899. These gamers will have the next best card in 12-15 months. Given that you have a 770 still, it's clear that you do not fall into this consumer category. You are better off grabbing a 1070/980Ti and then when you need a card 75-100% faster, just get that in 2018-2019. If you held on to your 770 for that long, you are willing compromise on performance. That means you can just turn down a couple settings and enjoy 1070/980Ti 95% as much. The 1080 will not be any more future proof than a 1070 (this is a fact that goes back to GTX470 vs. 480, 570 vs. 580, 670 vs. 680, 970 vs. 980) either because it doesn't have true DX12 hardware (Volta should).

If you want to future-proof and max out games at 1440p 60-144Hz and 4K performance, you go GTX1070 SLI. In cases where 1080 is faster than a 1070, it won't be fast enough to make any tangible difference but 1070 SLI actually will.

For Doom, in particular, you do not even need a GTX1070. If you are only gaming at 1080p 60Hz, RX480 for $240 is enough.

Even for 1440p, RX 480 will slice through Doom.

Alternatively, MSI Armor 2X 980Ti for $365 (or even less with a $25 PayPal code) is a great deal. In comparison a $600-700 1080 is a horrible deal because 1080 max OC is only 25-30% faster than a 980Ti max OC but you are paying through the nose to say you have the fastest.

http://slickdeals.net/f/8940939-vid...5-video-card-200-or-less-after-30-rebate-more

Bottom line is, high-end $600-700 cards are not worth it unless money isn't a factor OR you plan to upgrade every generation OR you are retired and gaming is your #1 hobby.

$500 680 -> 2.5 years later we could buy a $275 R9 290
$550 980 -> less than 2 years later you can get a 1060 for $250.
$650 Fury X / 980Ti -> a year later we can get a $365 980Ti

Unless you don't care about $, or make enough $ to not care or want the best every year, don't buy the 1080. In fact, if you want to spend that much $, get a 1070 now and then next year just get the 1080Ti.

 

[boozzer]

Why are people quick to dismiss the fact that there's a vulcan Doom patch for pascal in the works that should improve the performance ?

Did you miss the AoS benchmarks where the 480 is only a few percent better in there vs the 1060 ?

@ Op grab a 1060/1070 or aftermarket 480.

when that magical driver/patch comes out, then we will change our opinions in regards to doom..

 

[Nhirlathothep]

If this isn't blatant trolling I dunno what is

you can tell your experience,(if you have some) not insult someone else.

Can we knock it off with this nonsense. Both companies have had major driver issues but both companies generally have good drivers and are both pretty responsive. Barring extremely unlikely combinations with known issues or incredibly specific needs where one company has a driver feature a person can't live without like day 1 performance in a sponsored game, no one needs to consider drivers when spending 200+ dollars on a video cards.

You may think AMD has more issues because you have more exposure to AMD cards and if you've gone through tons, you've swapped in and out a lot which is always going to introduce more issues. You can't extrapolate your personal experiences to such generalities.

i bought more amd cards because i found em at better prices (used), but i always had both nvidia and amd (i have always at least 10 cards of both company on many computers and i used em the same amount of years)


i say " amd driver is something to avoid if possible" and the last version is the worst i ever had because it s my experience.

tell him your experience if it s different. every customer needs both.






With amd i always have multiple problems. (at the same time)
only to mention the last driver: (w10 clean install and update)

-you click on notification "upgrade" and it doesnt work
- you click on the amd panel to download the upgrade end it gives error
- you download it from amd site and your gui becomes slow after install
- you uninstall it and it gives you a error removing it
-you reinstall the old driver and ... another error

conclusion :

i haven t used this pc for 1 week, then Windows 10 did a windows update (automatic) and amd driver could work. (now it s fine untill next Microsoft on amd update)

ok, wanna give the fault to Microsoft? to play games you have only 1 choice as os, while on nvidia all is always working flawlessly on my desktop gaming PCS



i can say that on my (many ) laptops NVIDIA OPTIMUS is terrible, always in fight with Intel integrated graphics.
but if you want to talk about AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics (the old Optimus AMD version) ... it was way way way worst.

this is a good advice many pple give others to help em.

 

[guskline]

RS do you even own a GTX 1080?

 

[Nhirlathothep]

RS do you even own a GTX 1080?

1) i don t think you need to own gtx 1080 to agree with what he said (i agree with him, 1080 is a terrible choice)

2) on the opposite if he had a 1080, this could be evidence of incoherence

 

[poofyhairguy]

Why are people quick to dismiss the fact that there's a vulcan Doom patch for pascal in the works that should improve the performance ?

Because that might be like the Maxwell async driver.

Did you miss the AoS benchmarks where the 480 is only a few percent better in there vs the 1060 ?

OP didn't ask about AoS, he asked about Doom and wants to save money if he can. That means a 480 should maybe be considered.

 

[daperl]

You should definitely get a GTX 1080. Here's a great deal on a Founder's Edition:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G47Y4524

You better hurry; it's only $780 US.

Cheers!