Should I suck it up and buy a 1070

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SPBHM

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price difference from the 1060 to the 1070 is to big, I think it makes more sense to save it and upgrade more often.
 

Byte

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If you like owning the best, wait for the 1080. If you don't regret owning something second rate, get the 1070. Actual tangible performance almost irrelevant they are close enough.
 

guskline

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OP, good luck. I hope you find a GTX 1080 soon.()
 
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sirmo

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regarding AMD drivers.. I have owned about a 50:50 split between AMD and Nvidia since the 2000s..

I have really not had any major issues with either company in terms of drivers. Except on Linux for awhile there Nvidia was better, but that's changed now too.

I would say however that AMD's driver team over the past year have changed the game.. they have been on the ball all year long.

For instance look at how they handled the rx480 PCIE draw issue. Issue reported on Friday before a 4th of July 4 day weekend, they had a fix on wednesday the following week.

Not only did they have a fix.. which rebalanced the VRM phases, but they also introduced an option for compatibility mode which power throttles more aggressively if you wanted to restrain the card to 150 watts, but they also had about 3% of performance improvements to compensate for it.

AMD driver team has been kicking butt this year.

Meanwhile my gtx780 still artifacts in Total War Warhammer and Nvidia has already relegated that card to legacy status.

So if anything I would give slight edge to AMD in terms of driver support at the moment.
 

garagisti

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For doom, if you want to not spend as much money, then an AIB 480 hitting about 1400mhz (& above) on OC is what 1 should consider. Apparently, that's worth about 15-20% gains on DX12 & Vulkan games. if that's about $300 or less, it easily is a better than a 1070. That is, if Doom is the only reason why this purchase is being made.

Overall, there's not much to differentiate between the two these days. AMD used to be more HTPC focussed, with support for hd audio on hdmi etc., which Nvidia introduced fairly late on their cards. However, both have DP 1.3 & HDMI 2.0. AMD's is 2.0b iirc, don't know about Nvidia offerings if they're only 2.0a or 2.0b (any info is appreciated). Eitherways, you have support for 4k video acceleration on both, including vp9.

edit: basic build quality of board is reported to be better on AMD, but with Nvidia you may want to read up if you want to keep the card for a fairly long time (about 3yrs or more).

I'd say save the extra money for possibly an upgrade to Volta mainstream bits or Vega.
 
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Concillian

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Had you bought an equivalent to the 770, a Radeon 290, you would be able to run DOOM with Vulcan at any setting you desired. Why do I keep seeing what is perhaps the most badly burned generation of gpu buyers (Kepler buyers) actually thinking about returning to nVidia?

I'm not sure, but if it makes you feel any better, I'm looking at the midrange cards as a GTX760 owner, and have barely given the 1060 any consideration based mostly on how poorly my GTX760 handled new games compared to the AMD options at the time.
 

RussianSensation

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RS do you even own a GTX 1080?

I don't see how this is relevant to me being objective and responding to the OP. I have owned GTX 470 Tri-SLI during 480 era, 7970Ghz CF during 680 era and now I have Hawaii Tri-Fire that I picked over 780Ti/980.

When the top card is barely faster than the 2nd tier, I will always pick 2-3 2nd tier cards. Guru3D and TPU did SLI reviews of 1070/1080 and for most AAA games scaling is great. That means 1070 SLI will demolish a 1080.

I see some people in this thread even had the audacity to recommend the FE 1080 which is appalling to see. Gigabyte 1070 costs $400 and in the real world it boosts to almost 1.9Ghz out of the box. That means without overclocking, the FE 1080 will be lucky to be 12-13% faster.

$800 Gigabyte Windforce 1070 SLI >>> $700 1080 FE.

When SLI doesn't work, you still get 85-90% of the performance. When SLI works, 1070 SLI will demolish the 1080 by 40-60%. Unlike 970 SLI, 1070 isn't VRAM gimped either.

Also, for Doom specifically, all of these cards are massive overkill unless the OP has a 3440x1440, 1440p 120-165Hz or a 4K monitor. Most people here were quick to recommend 1080 but I do not see where the OP mentioned that he has those monitors.

For example, what if he has a 1080p 60Hz monitor, are you going to recommend him a 1080 still?!
 

Shmee

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For 1080p 60Hz, any single 1070, 480, or even the 470 would likely be fine. EDIT: For DOOM at least.
 

nenforcer

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The 1070 is already approaching the MSRP of $389 just look at this example

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126112

and reality is most AIB cards will be $399 or more to begin with only after some mail in rebates in the future to bring them down.

The 1080 is to me not worth $200-$250 more than the 1070 for what is it 30% more performance. If DOOM is your only concern then the RX 480 8GB @ $250 running Vulkan is without a doubt the price / performance champion.
 
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Borealis7

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The 1070 is already approaching the MSRP of $389 just look at this example

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126112

and reality is most AIB cards will be $399 or more to begin with only after some mail in rebates in the future to bring them down.

The 1080 is to me not worth $200-$250 more than the 1070 for what is it 30% more performance. If DOOM is your only concern then the RX 480 8GB @ $250 running Vulkan is without a doubt the price / performance champion.

if only we lived in the US...(BTW your link says 410$, and thats a reference cooler)
I really want a GTX1070 (for 1080p@120Hz) but the MSI GTX1070 GAMING X 8GB going for 730$ (inc. tax) where i live and the lesser models like MSI Armor and some models from Inno3d or Gigabyte sell for roughly 30-50$ less. (FE for 700$)
i wonder if it's even worth it to get the premium models. on TPU i see that all GTX1070s OC roughly the same between 2088Mhz and 2100MHz.

but there is still hope! i can sign up for a business convention in the US and order a card and have it shipped to the hotel...i'll just have to suffer through all the presentations i'll have to give and customer greetings.
 
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Newbian

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The 1070 is already approaching the MSRP of $389 just look at this example

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126112

and reality is most AIB cards will be $399 or more to begin with only after some mail in rebates in the future to bring them down.

The 1080 is to me not worth $200-$250 more than the 1070 for what is it 30% more performance. If DOOM is your only concern then the RX 480 8GB @ $250 running Vulkan is without a doubt the price / performance champion.

The msrp is $379 not $389 and newegg did have some for $399 but I don't see it anymore even if it was out of stock.
 
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vissarix

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I currently have a Geforce 770 4GB with a 4670k. I want to play the new Doom at full settings and have buttery smooth framerates. I've been waiting a bit now to snag a 1080 (non-FE) to pair with a 6700k so I can do so, while simultaneously giving my son my hand me down rig which will be an upgrade from his 3570k+750Ti 2gb.

I've been trying to find some info on when the 1080 are expected to be released in sufficient quantities that I can buy one without paying massively inflated over MSRP prices. Have there been any credible rumors on when this would likely happen or should I just suck it up and grab a 1070 and save a few bucks while im at it?

so you want buy a new gpu just play doom? you will get bored after little time...so you better buy a gpu which performs good on everygame and not one game only...

this means an rx480 is to be avoided since it is 10%+ slower vs the gtx1060 has the same price but consumes 40w more and runs hotter...

personally i would go for an gtx1070 since it is on another category...
 

guskline

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RadiclDreamer, since the issue has been raised, may I ask what type of monitor you are, or will be using? Thank you.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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When the top card is barely faster than the 2nd tier, I will always pick 2-3 2nd tier cards. Guru3D and TPU did SLI reviews of 1070/1080 and for most AAA games scaling is great. That means 1070 SLI will demolish a 1080.

The scaling looks great on old games, but on newer ones (Christmas 2015 season and later) it looks like a real mixed bag on TPU's 1080 Strix SLI review.

Anno 2205: -3%



Assassin's Creed Syndicate: +74%



Black Ops 3: +97%



Fallout 4: +42%



Far Cry Primal: +77%



Hitman: +53%



Just Cause 3: -6%



Rainbow Six Siege: -13%



Rise of the Tomb Raider: -10%



I don't think I could stomach multiple gpu with that kind of scaling in new games at 4k where the cpu should matter least.
 
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RadiclDreamer

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Maybe he just thinks Nvidia would be the best choice based on popularity and doesn't really know otherwise. I won't argue either way.

As far as the original poster goes it's really up to you what you want to purchase in the end.

If you really think you need a 1080 but are willing to settle for a 1070 because you can order one right now then the best option is going with EVGA. If you decide you need more than the 1070 just do the step up program.

Here's 2 currently in stock. Free expedited shipping.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1262834-REG/evga_08g_p4_6173_kr_geforce_gtx_1070_sc.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1262833-REG/evga_08g_p4_6171_kr_geforce_gtx_1070_acx.html

I choose nvidia over AMD because I have had too many issues over the years with AMD/ATI graphics cards to want to give them another chance. From bad drivers to the GSOD issue with the 5870 series, to xfire being awful (not to say SLI is a lot better). I don't think their hardware is bad by any stretch, but I just can't bring myself to come back to team red after the issues I've had.

*Disclaimer, I know nvidia has issues too, but my PERSONAL experience is far better with team green. In any instance YMMV
 

RadiclDreamer

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so you want buy a new gpu just play doom? you will get bored after little time...so you better buy a gpu which performs good on everygame and not one game only...

this means an rx480 is to be avoided since it is 10%+ slower vs the gtx1060 has the same price but consumes 40w more and runs hotter...

personally i would go for an gtx1070 since it is on another category...

That is he only title, but it's the only title other than killing floor 2 that gives my 770 trouble
 

RadiclDreamer

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RadiclDreamer, since the issue has been raise, may I ask what type of monitor you are, or will be using? Thank you.

Currently rocking a 27in Samsung @ 1920x1080 but the next part of the plan is to either go 1440 or 4K, but it seems that most of the 4K that I see are low fps and are insanely priced. I don't mind to pay more for a great product as evidenced by my willingness to pay for a 1080 but I don't want to get hosed with some BS early adopter tax and at the same time get an inferior product.
 

guskline

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The GTX 980 TI SC ran well on my new Dell U3415W ultrawide 3440 x 1440 and the GTX 1080 makes it scream. I now have the GTX980TI SC on my BenQ BL3200PT which is 2560 x 1440 and it is also very fast.
 
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IllogicalGlory

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You should definitely get a GTX 1080. Here's a great deal on a Founder's Edition:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G47Y4524

You better hurry; it's only $780 US.

Cheers!
What with the craftsmanship, driver support and logo, that card basically sells itself at that price. What a steal!

If you can find one of those cheap $409 Gigabyte 1070s, I'd say go for it. Although the DPC latency issue does seem like a real problem at this point, but maybe it'll be resolved by the time you find one in stock.
 
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