Should I upgrade my 3-4 year old rig? core i7

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TmBlackFlag

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How interesting that no one has suggested an SSD. I have been adding SSD's to every rig in the house. It transforms how you experience your rig as much as highspeed connection transforms how you experience the Internet.

I have an intel SSD 80gb which i run current games on and then some standard old HD's for everything else. I agree it makes the whole windows experience much faster.
 

Zorander

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A new GPU (at least a HD7950) and another 4GB of RAM will greatly help.

An SSD will nicely boost system response and loading times, but not FPS.

I am myself still running a Lynnfield i7 system with a HD7950 & 8GB RAM @1600p. No pressing need for an upgrade.
 

tarmc

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A new GPU (at least a HD7950) and another 4GB of RAM will greatly help.

An SSD will nicely boost system response and loading times, but not FPS.

I am myself still running a Lynnfield i7 system with a HD7950 & 8GB RAM @1600p. No pressing need for an upgrade.

hes running a s1366, its tri channel opposed to the dual linnfield support, adding 2g would be enough for it.
but I do agree and it slipped my mind completely how much of an improvement in system performance a ssd makes, even if it is only running on sata 2
 

Jacky60

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920 @ 3.8 is fine for any game on the market today.


I would say a 7950 would be your best bet at a low cost upgrade after you sell your 5870.

I paid $210 for mine used. You could probably get $120 for your 5870

Maybe 920 @3.8 is for most games 'fine' but some games could use a bit more than 'fine'. I'm upgrading to 4930k in Sept (shooting for 4.6ghz) as I need more than fine or acceptable or tolerable frame rates for Arma 3. Unless you have practical experience of every game on the market today then you really don't know do you?
 

tarmc

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going by what the op has said, an extra 2g mem, ssd and new videocard would be a great upgrade
 

Zorander

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hes running a s1366, its tri channel opposed to the dual linnfield support, adding 2g would be enough for it.
but I do agree and it slipped my mind completely how much of an improvement in system performance a ssd makes, even if it is only running on sata 2
Sorry, I forgot OP has a triple channel system.

I don't think OP mentioned if his existing RAM is a 1x4GB setup or 2x2GB one. It's important to make sure all 3 RAM slots are populated for tri-channel to work.
 

tarmc

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Sorry, I forgot OP has a triple channel system.

I don't think OP mentioned if his existing RAM is a 1x4GB setup or 2x2GB one. It's important to make sure all 3 RAM slots are populated for tri-channel to work.

True enough. Mind you if he is running a single 4g going to tri channel from single would be awesome
 

Sunburn74

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I have an intel SSD 80gb which i run current games on and then some standard old HD's for everything else. I agree it makes the whole windows experience much faster.

Bigger SSD? RAID ssd setup (there are game loading benefits to be had)?

Anyway honestly with your rig, I'd think about more SSD storage space and a newer GPU. Right now I'm running a gtx 570 and I'm waiting on one more GPU cycle to pass before I upgrade. Even my gtx 570 is starting to show its age (sleeping dogs can't be run maxed out at 1080p, crysis 3, etc etc). Your 5870 is actually alittle bit slower in general and I think i'f I'd owned it, I'd have jumped ship already by now...
 

spat55

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Get another 4GB of RAM if you can and a HD 7850 or higher and you are good to go, I think anymore than a HD 7970 will bottleneck, although don't take my word for it.
 

TmBlackFlag

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Thank you all again. Haven't made a purchase yet but am looking into a video card and more RAM.

Based on Spat55's comments, what is the best GPU you'd consider that won't be bottlenecked by the i7 @ 3.8?

My mainboard is an Asus P7P55D. The memory is 2x2gb. It wasn't clear on a quick Google to me if this mainboard can do 3 sticks in tri channel. TBH, this is the first computer I ever bought that someone else built. I saw it on Craigslist and it was just too much of a bargain at the time.

Also, when I got my 80gb Intel SSD they were cream of the crop at the time but still $250. What is the best bargain SSd at this time? It would be nice to be able to have multiple games on the OS hard drive at the same time. Media will still always go on a 1+TB old school style hard drive.
 

Ieat

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Sounds like you don't have an i7 920 but an i7 860 or i7 870. So yeah no triple channel for you. Look for another dual channel 2x2gb kit or get a 2x4gb kit and sell off your 4gb kit. As for a cpu bottleneck I wouldn't worry too much. You're probably good for at least a hd 7970 or gtx 680/770. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_690_review,12.html Even an i7 965 at 3.75(very similar to your i7 at 3.8) doesn't seem like much of a bottleneck for a dual gpu gtx 690.
 

TmBlackFlag

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Sounds like you don't have an i7 920 but an i7 860 or i7 870. So yeah no triple channel for you. Look for another dual channel 2x2gb kit or get a 2x4gb kit and sell off your 4gb kit. As for a cpu bottleneck I wouldn't worry too much. You're probably good for at least a hd 7970 or gtx 680/770. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_690_review,12.html Even an i7 965 at 3.75(very similar to your i7 at 3.8) doesn't seem like much of a bottleneck for a dual gpu gtx 690.

Wow I goofed that one up. Looking at cpu-z and I have an i7 860 @ 3.8ghz.
 

TmBlackFlag

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Sounds like you don't have an i7 920 but an i7 860 or i7 870. So yeah no triple channel for you. Look for another dual channel 2x2gb kit or get a 2x4gb kit and sell off your 4gb kit. As for a cpu bottleneck I wouldn't worry too much. You're probably good for at least a hd 7970 or gtx 680/770. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_690_review,12.html Even an i7 965 at 3.75(very similar to your i7 at 3.8) doesn't seem like much of a bottleneck for a dual gpu gtx 690.

double post.
 

biostud

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Have no problems running my i5-750@3.8Ghz + GTX 670 @ 1440p.

So add a 256Gb SSD + memory + GTX 770/ or AMD 7970 and you'll be fine.
 

Zorander

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Wow I goofed that one up. Looking at cpu-z and I have an i7 860 @ 3.8ghz.
Better GPU (at least a HD7950) and more RAM (at least 2x4GB) will make your system fly.

A newer, bigger SSD is nice but do it only after you have done the first two.
 

tarmc

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770 and 7970 are overpriced. 760 or 7950 give very simular performance for alot less
 

ehume

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I upgraded my 875k + 128GB SSD to a 4770k + 500GB SSD. It boots much faster, runs faster in general. But I don't know if it would run games any faster unless you update your graphics card.
 

Piklar

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Everyone here has made valid points and excellent upgrade advice, If you don't realy need to upgrade but have the $ and keen for the thrill of new hardware then go for it!
Since you mentioned you upgrade every 2-3 years why not go for a complete overhaul ? Remember you can also sell your current hardware to reimburse some of the cost of the upgrade. From what you have now a 4770K/1150 platform would fit the bill nicely giving you all Sata 6GBs ports to add an SSD (or two) allowing for plenty of future expansion. Memory is more expensive of late so go for what you can afford from min 8GBs DDR1600 or up. Since you already have a killer display with 2560x1600 capability a 3GB card with 384bit bandwith (or two) would be a good fit, again comes down to budget and the games you play, other considerations are ofcourse your PSU and CPU cooler, naturally you would want to get a decent cooler to get the most out of your unlocked Haswell..
 

spat55

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I would get another 4GB of RAM then if you don't want to spend much money a HD 7850 or GTX 760. When you think about it you could get those, then run the rest of the life out of that setup, then have a clean slate in another 18 months.
 

spat55

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Everyone here has made valid points and excellent upgrade advice, If you don't realy need to upgrade but have the $ and keen for the thrill of new hardware then go for it!
Since you mentioned you upgrade every 2-3 years why not go for a complete overhaul ? Remember you can also sell your current hardware to reimburse some of the cost of the upgrade. From what you have now a 4770K/1150 platform would fit the bill nicely giving you all Sata 6GBs ports to add an SSD (or two) allowing for plenty of future expansion. Memory is more expensive of late so go for what you can afford from min 8GBs DDR1600 or up. Since you already have a killer display with 2560x1600 capability a 3GB card with 384bit bandwith (or two) would be a good fit, again comes down to budget and the games you play, other considerations are ofcourse your PSU and CPU cooler, naturally you would want to get a decent cooler to get the most out of your unlocked Haswell..

Anything more than one HD 7970 then he would start bottlenecking, but atm the price is really sweet for one of them.
 

tarmc

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Anything more than one HD 7970 then he would start bottlenecking, but atm the price is really sweet for one of them.

looking at ~$100 price difference between a 7950 and a 7970 for how much of a performance gain? personally the gain isn't enough to spend the extra $
 

Nec_V20

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if you are happy with the current performance... you should only upgrade if you are bored and want to play with a new toy,

if I had the parts you listed, I would probably just add another 2GB of memory, and think about a new VGA for now, or maybe one of those cheap gulftowns from ebay, just for fun(it wouldn't really do much for your gaming performance)!

I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I have a core i7-990x and although it has a bit more performance than the 920 it isn't really by all that much.

Anyway I belong in the category, "you should only upgrade if you are bored and want to play with a new toy".

There is no real reason for the OP to upgrade, and the longer he waits the lower the prices get.
 
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