Should Intel be sued for false advertisement?

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ShintaiDK

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Not really. Intel does co-marketing stuff all the time.

I think that suggesting that all of those overview pages are somehow completely Newegg's doing to be rather dubious, considering that sometimes, Newegg can't even get product pictures properly done.

You really think that they go to the trouble of multiple press-ready graphics, and multiple 3D renders, just to sell one product?

I'm going to invoke Occam's razor here, and say I think that you are wrong.

Can you prove to me, that its is Intels exact copy on Neweggs site with errors and all. As the only place in the entire world. Meaning Intel must have sent everyone else other information.

If not, then I think we can conclude the issue is at Newegg.
 

arcenite

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Can you prove to me, that its is Intels exact copy on Neweggs site with errors and all. As the only place in the entire world. Meaning Intel must have sent everyone else other information.

If not, then I think we can conclude the issue is at Newegg.

We all know it's Newegg's verbiage. I'm reasonably certain the OP knows this too. He's either practicing his decidedly poor devil's advocate skills or he doesn't know how to concede. Either way, I recommend that you save your energy for someone else.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
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We all know it's Newegg's verbiage. I'm reasonably certain the OP knows this too.
No, I don't. You really think Newegg went to the trouble of those elaborate graphics and layout for the Samsung and Antec examples provided?

And you really think Intel just lets their retailers advertise their products willy-nilly, without having to approve of those ads? That Intel doesn't make ANY attempt to control their "brand image" on one of the biggest online US retailers?
 

ShintaiDK

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http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/...hd-graphics/hd-graphics-consumer-general.html

Intel does advertise their IGPs as having discrete-class performance, btw.

The enhanced graphics technology in the new 3rd generation Intel® CoreTM processors delivers amazing performance and stunning 3D visuals for mainstream or casual gaming without the need for a separate graphics card

The only claim was for HD4000.

Intel HD Graphics 4000 delivers immersive mainstream and casual gaming capabilities with entry-level discrete graphics card performance—without an additional graphics card or chip.

Intel HD Graphics 2500 delivers casual and online gaming capabilities without an additional graphics card or chip.

Now tell me what is entry level discrete card of the time.
 
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ShintaiDK

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We all know it's Newegg's verbiage. I'm reasonably certain the OP knows this too. He's either practicing his decidedly poor devil's advocate skills or he doesn't know how to concede. Either way, I recommend that you save your energy for someone else.

Yep, it seems so. I am out of the loop since he continues to make up stuff.
 

VirtualLarry

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Really?



I dont see such a claim.

Intel HD Graphics 4000 delivers immersive mainstream and casual gaming capabilities with entry-level discrete graphics card performance—without an additional graphics card or chip.
..

Are you willing to concede now that it's not "just Newegg" claiming that Intel IGPs are "discrete-level", but that Intel themselves make that claim? (For some of their chips.)
 
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Burpo

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When NewEgg needs to move a product (glut), you better believe their marketing team goes to work. It is comical the amount of errors they made tho.
 

Magic Carpet

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Larry,

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc5cpyh.html

Nowhere anywhere does Intel make such claims.

Product Overview
NUC5CPYH is one of the most fully featured Intel® NUCs. Based on a dual-core Celeron® processor, this Intel NUC includes new features such as a VGA port, SDXC card slot and TOSLINK* audio output while continuing to offer 4x USB 3.0 ports, 4K video support, and 802.11ac Wi-Fi*. Also, we’ve secured the base with the Kensington lock, significantly improving IT asset security. From entry-level consumers in emerging markets, to organizations looking for a value-oriented mini-PC, NUC5CPYH is the smart choice.

Same on Amazon.

This is just newegg, bro.

When NewEgg needs to move a product (glut), you better believe their marketing team goes to work. It is comical the amount of errors they made tho.
Pretty much.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Larry,

Nowhere anywhere does Intel make such claims.

This is just newegg, bro.

Pretty much.

So, Intel DOES NOT, have ANY control, or even any proof-reading, of marketing material for THEIR products, on one of the biggest US online retailers?

That Newegg could claim that Intel CPUs can cure blindness, and Intel wouldn't suffer any repercussions, only Newegg?

Edit: Next, I suppose that you will try to tell me that Newegg alone, solely foots the bill for product promo codes for popular products, and that they are in no way a vendor co-promotion. LOL!
 
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Magic Carpet

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So, Intel DOES NOT, have ANY control, or even any proof-reading, of marketing material for THEIR products, on one of the biggest US online retailers?
Apparently, not. This is a free market. Anything goes

But yeah, if you bought this over the description and found out later that it doesn't give you top performance, you could probably contact NewEgg for a refund. NewEgg is clearly in the wrong here, no doubt about that.

Intel:
From entry-level consumers in emerging markets, to organizations looking for a value-oriented mini-PC, NUC5CPYH is the smart choice.

vs

Newegg:
Impressive Computing Experience Get the Intel-level performance you’ve come to expect. The NUC5CPYH is powered by Intel Celeron N3050 dual core processor (2.6GHz), delivering awesome computing power to accelerate everything you do. Monstrous amount of data can be handled in no time. The integrated Intel HD graphics offers discrete-level graphics performance, so you can enjoy rich details whether you’re playing videos, or editing text/photos.
Very misleading.

The question is, can you sue Intel for NewEgg's wrong-doings? You still can, if you've got money and time on your hands.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Apparently, not. This is a free market. Anything goes
I daresay, I think that you are wrong. Intel TIGHTLY controls their brand and brand image.

Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say, in so many words, is that I find it hard to believe that Intel would have ZERO culpability for one of their product ads, on arguably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, online PC parts retailers.
 
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mrmt

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I daresay, I think that you are wrong. Intel TIGHTLY controls their brand and brand image.

Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say, in so many words, is that I find it hard to believe that Intel would have ZERO culpability for one of their product ads, on arguably one of the biggest, if not the biggest, online PC parts retailers.

Since you refuse to see the obvious why don't you contact newegg or Intel PR and check if this product briefing came from Intel or not?

Btw, you have a very twisted understanding of what Occam's Razor is, especially because you are reaching a more complex conclusion based on an assumption not backed by any evidence.
 
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piesquared

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Certainly they should be sued for false advertising and deceptive marketing they do it all the time. And so should NV for their long list of false advertising and deceptive marketing. BTW, are all i7's faster than alli5's and all i5's faster than all i3's?
 

lamedude

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Yes, they said a P4 would make the internet faster. It didn't turn my 56K into a T1.
 

dealcorn

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The way the US legal system works, you can sue Intel or Newegg or Obama or the Pope or ET over that language as long as as you can afford to pay the attorney or are knowledgeable enough to file the legal forms yourself and you can afford the filing fees. Your suit will go nowhere because it is silly, but that does not limit your ability to do stupid things. However, legal fees cost more than forum posts.

Edit: How much do you think it would cost Newegg to have every word on their site vetted by attorney's to reduce, but now eliminate, false statements. If we could get more accurate disclosures for only a 15% increase in selling price across the board, is that a good investment? Do you want the cost of everything increased by 15%?
 
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DrMrLordX

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I say we sue them both for marketing their small-core chips undeir big-core brandings. (Beema A6, I'm looking at you!)

Only if we drop the suit when they agree to stop that nonsense. Because, you know, you might actually get some traction there.

Hell AMD named the 8800P an "FX" processor . . . really guys?
 

NTMBK

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EDIT: Actually, I don't want to stoke this thread
 
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