Should Intel cancel IvyBridge altogether?

[Rvenger]

Epic, my chest is killing me hahaha

 

[nenforcer]

http://www.collectorcarconsultants.com/images/ivybrdge.jpg

At first touch it seemed harmless enough.

 

[OCGuy]

Yes, if AMD completely cancels every worthless chip they produce.

 

[nenforcer]

http://www.collectorcarconsultants.com/images/ivyrash.jpg

But then it quickly spread.

 

[nenforcer]

http://www.collectorcarconsultants.com/images/poisonvy.jpg

Now I wouldn't touch the thing with a 10 foot pole, but Poison Ivy Bridge will be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

It uses less power but creates more heat!

How does this work, magic of course!

 

[hyrule4927]

It uses less power but creates more heat!

How does this work, magic of course!

Well, if you want to get all technical, it's really not creating more heat. It's just doing a worse job of dissipating less heat. Regardless, Sandy for the win!

 

[OCGuy]

Meanwhile, at AMD:

"Do you think we will be able to beat an already inferior 2009 Phenom II 6-core processor with our next release?"

Meanwhile, at Intel:

"We have 22nm out the door and functional, ready to fill the channel!"

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Well, if you want to get all technical, it's really not creating more heat. It's just doing a worse job of dissipating less heat. Regardless, Sandy for the win!

I'd take IB over SB if I was buying right now :\

 

[hyrule4927]

I'd take IB over SB if I was buying right now :\

Well, if the prices were equal . . . but no deal on Ivy is going to beat the $200 I payed for my 2600K. Plus your water cooling setup certainly makes a difference.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Lordy Lordy MIss Nelly , I left the hug pen open and pigs got into the Barn yard. Lordy lordy miss nelly they missede the place ups something terriable

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Meanwhile, at AMD

"Do you think we will be able to beat an already inferior 2009 Phenom II 6-core processor with our next release?"

Meanwhile, at Intel:

"We have 22nm out the door and functional, ready to fill the channel!"

lol!

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Should they just cancel IB and sell SB chips while they refine 22nm and get Haswell right?

I mean, what's the point of it when people can't get it to 5 GHZ without generating a ton of heat?

Because not everyone wants or needs to clock the thing out the wazoo, most people are happy at stock or like myself, happy with a moderate overclock of say 4.0ghz

 

[SickBeast]

Because not everyone wants or needs to clock the thing out the wazoo, most people are happy at stock or like myself, happy with a moderate overclock of say 4.0ghz

I'm not happy with that.

Pretty soon we will all be CPU limited at 5ghz. Certainly within the reasonable lifespan of these chips we will.

 

[anikhtos]

I'm not happy with that.

Pretty soon we will all be CPU limited at 5ghz. Certainly within the reasonable lifespan of these chips we will.

no worries
i made it
i hit 5.0 ghz with ivy brigde
it was all about cooling efficiensy
with the following water cooling setup
thew temps are at 30c max

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/hoover-dam-directions.jpg
long live intel
things were not that hot when intel had a competition from amd lol
so now that amd is back intel is catching amd in heat envelope!?!?!??
it took how many generations for intel to make a cpu hotter than buldozer?!?!?
but now intel rules all ascpects
more power
more efficiency
less watt
more heat

 

[SickBeast]

no worries
i made it
i hit 5.0 ghz with ivy brigde
it was all about cooling efficiensy
with the following water cooling setup
thew temps are at 30c max
http://www.visitingdc.com/images/hoover-dam-directions.jpg

long live intel
things were not that hot when intel had a competition from amd lol
ao now that amd is back intel is catching amd in heat envelope!?!?!??

ROFL

anikhtos you are beyond hilarious.

 

[Puppies04]

Oh noes, IB can't go over 4.6 on air!!!!

*Does a quick count up of people actually running SB over 4.6GHZ 24/7*

....... oh about 10 on this forum full of computer enthusiasts .

 

[sm625]

I dont get it. All this talk about 4.5GHz but I still cant find any info on what to expect out of systems that pull 75 watts max from the wall. I want to know how much faster they can be.

When you got kids forgetting to exit the browser, leaving flash sitting there running at 60% of 2 cores and pulling 130 watts from the wall, it starts to add up.

Or if you have computers that stubbornly refuse to go to sleep... again it adds up.

60 watts is the maximum power envelope I am aiming for with a casual (non 3D gaming) general purpose pc. I want to know how ib hits that spot.

 

[SickBeast]

I dont get it. All this talk about 4.5GHz but I still cant find any info on what to expect out of systems that pull 75 watts max from the wall. I want to know how much faster they can be.

When you got kids forgetting to exit the browser, leaving flash sitting there running at 60% of 2 cores and pulling 130 watts from the wall, it starts to add up.

Or if you have computers that stubbornly refuse to go to sleep... again it adds up.

60 watts is the maximum power envelope I am aiming for with a casual (non 3D gaming) general purpose pc. I want to know how ib hits that spot.

For that usage pattern Ivy is 77w vs 95w for the same thing on the Sandy Bridge platform.

 

[Ryaxnb]

4.5 Ghz should be enough for anyone.

I just said this joke aloud because it amused me... unfortunately my mind slipped and i ended it like this: "4.5 ghz ought to be enough for anypony..."

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I'm not happy with that.

Pretty soon we will all be CPU limited at 5ghz. Certainly within the reasonable lifespan of these chips we will.

Seriously, what do you expect from a cpu? Think back a just a few years when even 10-15% overclocks were the standard, now you go from 3.4-5.0 which is nearly a 50% increase in performance from what they sold you. Intel doesnt owe you anything, they sell a chip with set specs, anything you get above and beyond that is free performance gains.

I swear, people could get a 200% increase in standard clocks and still would whine and complain. The community needs to stop being so self entitled.

 

[Rvenger]

I still think its a good CPU. I am actually more compelled to run it at lower clockspeeds because I was totally happy with my 2500k @ 4.4ghz. If I get 4.4ghz w/ 1.20v under 80c with this, it will be a win-win in my books.

 

[oceanside]

no worries
i made it
i hit 5.0 ghz with ivy brigde
it was all about cooling efficiensy
with the following water cooling setup
thew temps are at 30c max
http://www.visitingdc.com/images/hoover-dam-directions.jpg

long live intel
things were not that hot when intel had a competition from amd lol
so now that amd is back intel is catching amd in heat envelope!?!?!??
it took how many generations for intel to make a cpu hotter than buldozer?!?!?
but now intel rules all ascpects
more power
more efficiency
less watt
more heat

Woah! The reservoir on that puppy kicks major arse!

 

[2is]

How are you going to cancel a product that's already out?

If Intel catered to the one percenters, they wouldn't exist. IB is a better processor than SB for almsot the entire Earth population.

 

[amenx]

http://i50.tinypic.com/25rpo4n.jpg