Should lawn sprinklers be outlawed nationwide? I think so.

[QueBert]

Have a huge prick of a neighbor up the street who carries on and on about there being no water problem and it's all a scam. We have big signs posted about no watering between such and such hours. He laughes them off and waters multiple times a day any ways. About a month ago the police ticketed him and told him to cut the shit out. He didn't expect them to come back but they did the following day. And guess what? He was watering his lawn again. He got hit with an uber ticket.

I don't really know the guy outside of stories, but last thing I heard he was going to go to court and fight both of the tickets. I hope they throw his stupid ass "water's infinite!" ass in jail.

 

[Markbnj]

water isn't wasted but it doesn't exactly go to places where we can easily get drinkable water back either.

ElFenix answered the question. Surprised more of you haven't read it and understood it.

It's silly to talk about the water cycle as if you're privy to some magic secret. Yes, water evaporates, and yes, water that is sprinkled onto a lawn ends up flowing back into the "supply." But we don't get water from air, or the ocean, or by squeezing it out of plants, or dripping it off big condensers. We get fresh, clean water at the volumes we need from major rivers, lakes, and most importantly aquifers. It takes hundreds or thousands of years for all that clean water to percolate through layers of sediment and rock and collect in those underground pools waiting to be tapped. Once it is tapped out, it can't be easily replaced, and we'll be forced to go to much dirtier sources.

In other words, you can think of the world's water supply as a huge mass of dirty, non-potable liquid. Most of it will kill you if you consume it in any quantity. The drinkable supply is a tiny fraction of the total, and it's only useful to us when its collected in one place where we can tap it. In all of the developed nations, and in virtually every part of the U.S., we are indeed tapping it faster than it can be replaced. So, if you think that problem can be ignored just because the world in general is a wet place, you're not right.

 

[Phoenix86]

ElFenix answered the question. Surprised more of you haven't read it and understood it.

It's silly to talk about the water cycle as if you're privy to some magic secret. Yes, water evaporates, and yes, water that is sprinkled onto a lawn ends up flowing back into the "supply." But we don't get water from air, or the ocean, or by squeezing it out of plants, or dripping it off big condensers. We get fresh, clean water at the volumes we need from major rivers, lakes, and most importantly aquifers. It takes hundreds or thousands of years for all that clean water to percolate through layers of sediment and rock and collect in those underground pools waiting to be tapped. Once it is tapped out, it can't be easily replaced, and we'll be forced to go to much dirtier sources.

In other words, you can think of the world's water supply as a huge mass of dirty, non-potable liquid. Most of it will kill you if you consume it in any quantity. The drinkable supply is a tiny fraction of the total, and it's only useful to us when its collected in one place where we can tap it. In all of the developed nations, and in virtually every part of the U.S., we are indeed tapping it faster than it can be replaced. So, if you think that problem can be ignored just because the world in general is a wet place, you're not right.

So we just need to frack for water. :sneaky:

 

[spidey07]

Have a huge prick of a neighbor up the street who carries on and on about there being no water problem and it's all a scam. We have big signs posted about no watering between such and such hours. He laughes them off and waters multiple times a day any ways. About a month ago the police ticketed him and told him to cut the shit out. He didn't expect them to come back but they did the following day. And guess what? He was watering his lawn again. He got hit with an uber ticket.

I don't really know the guy outside of stories, but last thing I heard he was going to go to court and fight both of the tickets. I hope they throw his stupid ass "water's infinite!" ass in jail.

Yeah. I'm that guy.

Fuck you. I pay for it, I use it.

 

[Howard]

Conservation of matter proves that there will never be a "last drop of water". You're full of it.

While you're right that water will always exist in some form on earth, it's extremely short-sighted. Fair and economical use of water is already something that many people don't have and the situation is being exacerbated by overuse or inadequate water policy.

 

[Zodiark1593]

Yeah. I'm that guy.

Fuck you. I pay for it, I use it.

Solution right here, if you want to use more water, you pay for more. You can even charge more per unit of water past certain points (like the electric companies are so fond of doing). There, was that so hard.

 

[OverVolt]

Step 1: Stop building cities in the desert.

 

[Brigandier]

Step 1: Stop building cities in the desert.

What if you have oil or gas to trade for water?

 

[alkemyst]

I think most above don't have their own lawn or rent.

A hose is very wasteful on a real lawn.

 

[Red Squirrel]

There's plenty of water, I don't see any issues with sprinklers as long as people don't over do it. Cities monitor water, and if they see the supply is running low they'll issue water bans, people need to obey these. For example in my city when there are forest fires they'll issue either a full blown ban on using sprinklers, or partial, where you can only do it between certain hours. They just want to ensure the water tower is always topped up in case fire fighters need it.

The world is mostly water, sure lot of it is salted water, but using the sun it can easily be converted to non salted water. People/companies/government just refuse to build these giant stills and rather keep saying there's a water shortage instead of doing something about it.

 

[Baptismbyfire]

I think this article would do many of us some good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_water

 

[OverVolt]

I think this article would do many of us some good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_water

Sounds as much economic as anything else. Put it into the national debt pile, Social security pile, energy pile, pensions pile, and cost of living pile. Everything is on such an unsustainable path. Then we carry on doing the same thing. Oh well. 2025 isn't far off, so thats going to come to a head soon.

 

[Doppel]

I think this article would do many of us some good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_water

And yet access to clean water has never been historically as easy as it is now. It is the world's most abundant resource, even if most of it needs to be desalinated.

As mentioned in the post above mine, in the grand scheme of things this isn't a top worry.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Have a huge prick of a neighbor up the street who carries on and on about there being no water problem and it's all a scam. We have big signs posted about no watering between such and such hours. He laughes them off and waters multiple times a day any ways. About a month ago the police ticketed him and told him to cut the shit out. He didn't expect them to come back but they did the following day. And guess what? He was watering his lawn again. He got hit with an uber ticket.

I don't really know the guy outside of stories, but last thing I heard he was going to go to court and fight both of the tickets. I hope they throw his stupid ass "water's infinite!" ass in jail.

And throw away the key! :thumbsup:

ElFenix answered the question. Surprised more of you haven't read it and understood it.

It's silly to talk about the water cycle as if you're privy to some magic secret. Yes, water evaporates, and yes, water that is sprinkled onto a lawn ends up flowing back into the "supply." But we don't get water from air, or the ocean, or by squeezing it out of plants, or dripping it off big condensers. We get fresh, clean water at the volumes we need from major rivers, lakes, and most importantly aquifers. It takes hundreds or thousands of years for all that clean water to percolate through layers of sediment and rock and collect in those underground pools waiting to be tapped. Once it is tapped out, it can't be easily replaced, and we'll be forced to go to much dirtier sources.

In other words, you can think of the world's water supply as a huge mass of dirty, non-potable liquid. Most of it will kill you if you consume it in any quantity. The drinkable supply is a tiny fraction of the total, and it's only useful to us when its collected in one place where we can tap it. In all of the developed nations, and in virtually every part of the U.S., we are indeed tapping it faster than it can be replaced. So, if you think that problem can be ignored just because the world in general is a wet place, you're not right.

But Spidey pays for his share! So he can certainly drain all our lakes for his personal consumption.

Water is a renewable resource....it just takes a VERY LONG TIME to renew in usable quantities you derps! Banning sprinklers and other conservation methods is key.

 

[Jaskalas]

The water on earth is a closed system. It doesn't run out, no matter how it's used to water lawns. Is your point that taking water out of the earth and sprinkling back onto the earth causes the water to disappear? I can't tell if you're trolling or if you really are that stupid. Please clarify.

The amount of fresh, clean water available can be extremely limited in some areas. Especially if the demand exceeds the supply. A supply which took millions of years to create.

It won't do us any good if the fickle amount on land is spent. Christ, you act with such disdain at the idea of one of human civilizations greatest challenges: fresh, clean water. You clearly live a life of privilege thinking it's a non issue.

Double your country's population and you'll be begging for a drop.

 

[WelshBloke]

But then it never comes back!

I have a very real problem with water freaks that don't understand the water cycle.

As I drink my water, that comes from my piss, from watering my lawn, over and over again.

I'm sure that you just collect rain water for your needs.

 

[spidey07]

I'm sure that you just collect rain water for your needs.

Why would I do that? I pay somebody else to do that for me. Helps to live near a more river as well.

Same for paying somebody to mow my lawn every 5 days because it's so awsome. I water it every single day via sprinkler system. 9 zones at 20+ minutes each.

 

[EagleKeeper]

My water comes from the Great Lakes. No shortage of water here. But I don't water the lawn unless we go weeks without rain. I don't want to spend money on extra utilities if I don't have to.

You've looked at the water level drop in Michigan?

 

[WelshBloke]

Why would I do that? I pay somebody else to do that for me. Helps to live near a more river as well.

Same for paying somebody to mow my lawn every 5 days because it's so awsome. I water it every single day via sprinkler system. 9 zones at 20+ minutes each.

So your water usage isn't relevant to the water cycle really.

Edit: and try to troll less obviously.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Great Lakes have lost tons of water. The people piping water and bottling it is not helping. Government that grants them the licence to do so are the culprit.

I have seen water delivery trucks that belong to private company filling the tanker with water from hydrant and no meter attached. WTF.


http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...manmade-drain-hole-near-detroit-58094902.html

Those trucks have paid a permit to tap into the hydrants.
Water usage is pre-paid

 

[spidey07]

So your water usage isn't relevant to the water cycle really.

Edit: and try to troll less obviously.

Who's trolling? Water is abundant and there is no shortage of supply. I pay for it I will use as much as I like. Whatever I use is returned to the earth to be used again.

 

[sdifox]

Those trucks have paid a permit to tap into the hydrants.
Water usage is pre-paid

Up here it is supposed to be metered.

 

[olds]

If Jesus didn't want us to have green grass he wouldn't have made rain out of water.

 

[brianmanahan]

i live in ohio where we average 40-50 inches of rain a year, so this thread makes me lol at all the poor saps who decide to live in arid wastelands

 

[olds]

i live in ohio where we average 40-50 inches of rain a year, so this thread makes me lol at all the poor saps who decide to live in arid wastelands

But you have to live in Ohio!