Discussion Should manufacturers be allowed to market AR-15 style guns to kids?

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pete6032

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I know kids are finicky customers. An effective campaign to properly arm them would be undertaking indeed.

However I feel there are far too many guns on the street, and I think no one under 21 should be allowed to own a firearm.

The last thing you want is a kid with a gun unless they are properly trained and even then would still be too much for me to accept.
What about shooting a firearm under 21? Are you drawing a distinction between shooting one and owning one?
 

pmv

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Just about every guitarist I've ever played with would like a word. And that's exactly what almost all gun collectors remind me of--someone cherishing their toys because they are cool and not because any kind of need. A guitarist no matter how famous does not need 30 or 40 guitars (most don't need more than a couple to play gigs)--not that I care, because people generally don't get killed by strangers with guitars, you just may get exposed to loud wankery that makes you cringe is all.

As far as I'm concerned, self-defense is nothing but an excuse to own toys. But it's legal, and trying to do anything about it is political suicide in exactly one country on earth, so it won't change.

When I felt well enough to cycle regularly I was forever sticking more lights and reflective tape (and electroluminescent wire) over the bike (and getting better tires and upgrading the gears). (I told myself it was for 'safety', to be more visible to motorists, but really it was just that I liked how it looked, to appear like something from Close Encounters of The Third Kind).
I've known people with three or more bicycles of different types. I think the obsessive customising and collecting habit is in no sense unique to gun-nuts.

What I do wonder about, is that for every hobby I've gotten obsessed with collecting and customising things, there's always been an accompanying desire to actually get some use out of the items. I wonder, with gun obsessives, if the things themselves don't somehow cry out to their owners to be brandished and carried and, even, maybe, used. That really struck me in the case of that shooter with the bump-stocks who shot up that music festival (who apparently had a preposterously-vast gun collection). Did they ever establish a motive for that one?
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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The glorification of guns is a large part of this countries problem. We should ban all advertising of guns.
 

Leeea

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I know kids are finicky customers. An effective campaign to properly arm them would be undertaking indeed.

However I feel there are far too many guns on the street, and I think no one under 21 should be allowed to own a firearm.

The last thing you want is a kid with a gun unless they are properly trained and even then would still be too much for me to accept.
What could go wrong?

. . .

My father gave me an assault weapon when I was 13. He thought it would make me a man. No training, no nothing. If you know anything at all about me, you will know that was a horrifically bad idea.

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Just ban all firearms and be done with it. Owning or operating a firearm should require an extensive background and mental screening process that is checked yearly. Both for police and civilians.



Existing laws allow me to buy/sell own/operate and even possess a FFL if I wish. Existing laws are all focused on involuntary court ordered treatment, and ignore people who voluntary seek treatment. But adding a sit down compontent with a mental health professional to the screening process would disqualify me in less then 5 minutes.
 

HomerJS

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Owning or operating a firearm should require an extensive background and mental screening process that is checked yearly. Both for police and civilians.



Existing laws allow me to buy/sell own/operate and even possess a FFL if I wish. Existing laws are all focused on involuntary court ordered treatment, and ignore people who voluntary seek treatment. But adding a sit down compontent with a mental health professional to the screening process would disqualify me in less then 5 minutes.
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