should nhtsa force auto-braking systems on bad drivers?

[brainhulk]

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/26/subaru-eyesight-color-cameras/

EyeSight continues to offer adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning and pre-collision breaking that can slow the car automatically if an imminent accident is detected, even bringing the vehicle to a complete stop.

I think bad drivers that have at fault accidents are bad. Eventually these systems should be cheap enough right?

I would hate it to be on my car though

 

[Rakehellion]

I'd put one on my car if it saved me a few dollars on insurance. I'm not a bad enough driver that it would ever need to be used.

 

[bradly1101]

Do autonomous vehicles threaten the end of the car insurance industry?

 

[Jumpem]

I think it should be mandatory on every vehicle.

I would have gotten it on my Forester, but it would have required another $4,500.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I'm waiting for computer driven vehicles to take off. Letting a human pilot a 2000 lb chunk of metal at 70 mph is inherently dangerous. Add in traffic and weather conditions and you have a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[zerocool84]

What do you mean only bad drivers? It should be on EVERY car not only ones that have been in an accident.

 

[ElFenix]

wonder how this system would work against people who weave through heavy traffic at high speed?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Bad drivers should be taken off the road entirely.

 

[Bateluer]

No, in fact, computerized systems that override driver control should be banned outright. No computer, no system has a human's intuition and ability. The EyeSight camera may see the vehicle directly ahead, but can it instantly know if your vehicle can change lanes to the right or left to avoid a collision? No, instead, it applies the brakes, causing the vehicle behind you to rear end you.

Lane departure warnings that sound an audible alarm when you drift across lane lines without a turn signal being on would be fine, but anything that overrides the human's control needs to be completely banned from vehicles.

 

[IronWing]

Bad drivers should be taken off the road entirely.

This. When's the last time you heard of a driver losing his/her license for anything other than DUI?

 

[Kadarin]

There may also be a situation where you need to deliberately hit something in front of you.

 

[mmntech]

No, I think too many driving aids give people a false sense of security. A vehicle suddenly stopping would also spook other drivers around it.

Driver training needs to be tightened up though. People involved in at fault accidents, especially anything more severe than a fender bender, should have to take a mandatory refresher course on safe driving before their license is returned.

I'm also a big proponent of visible police enforcement. The cop hiding behind the bushes in unmarked cars nabbing speeders, or photo radar, doesn't make the road safer. It just lines the pocket books of the local government. The police shouldn't be used as a revenue tool. Cops should patrol the highways and main streets, and be visible. Everyone behaves if they see a cop around.

 

[Jumpem]

No, I think too many driving aids give people a false sense of security. A vehicle suddenly stopping would also spook other drivers around it.

Driver training needs to be tightened up though. People involved in at fault accidents, especially anything more severe than a fender bender, should have to take a mandatory refresher course on safe driving before their license is returned.

I'm also a big proponent of visible police enforcement. The cop hiding behind the bushes in unmarked cars nabbing speeders, or photo radar, doesn't make the road safer. It just lines the pocket books of the local government. The police shouldn't be used as a revenue tool. Cops should patrol the highways and main streets, and be visible. Everyone behaves if they see a cop around.

This will never change. Despite what local politicians, or police chiefs, say publicly revenue generation is the primary function of a traffic division.

 

[Engineer]

No, instead, it applies the brakes, causing the vehicle behind you to rear end you.

Sounds to me like the vehicle behind needs this too, not to mention the fact that shows that the vehicle behind is not following at a safe distance and the driver fails to maintain control of their vehicle.

 

[BertolomeoDiaz]

No, in fact, computerized systems that override driver control should be banned outright. No computer, no system has a human's intuition and ability. The EyeSight camera may see the vehicle directly ahead, but can it instantly know if your vehicle can change lanes to the right or left to avoid a collision? No, instead, it applies the brakes, causing the vehicle behind you to rear end you.

Lane departure warnings that sound an audible alarm when you drift across lane lines without a turn signal being on would be fine, but anything that overrides the human's control needs to be completely banned from vehicles.

exactly, we´re far from these systems being superior to human judgement

 

[Lean L]

So you want the bad drivers to drive even slower? One sign of a bad driver to me is when they brake 1.5 football fields before a light... best to just force all drivers to take a course that teaches them the limits of their cars and how to stay at 70% of limit or so instead of 20%. (i'm talking maneuverability and braking, not speed or acceleration.

 

[irishScott]

Do autonomous vehicles threaten the end of the car insurance industry?

Given that all such vehicles will undoubtedly have a manual override (ie: you can actually drive if you want/have to), I doubt it.

 

[Jumpem]

So you want the bad drivers to drive even slower? One sign of a bad driver to me is when they brake 1.5 football fields before a light... best to just force all drivers to take a course that teaches them the limits of their cars and how to stay at 70% of limit or so instead of 20%. (i'm talking maneuverability and braking, not speed or acceleration.

There is no need to stay on the throttle right up until a light. Just coast to it.

 

[Markbnj]

Humans are terrible operators of any kind of machinery. Eventually we will not do that anymore.

 

[Engineer]

There is no need to stay on the throttle right up until a light. Just coast to it.

Agreed.

 

[Rakehellion]

wonder how this system would work against people who weave through heavy traffic at high speed?

Weaving through traffic at high speed is an example of something a driver should NOT do.

 

[Lean L]

There is no need to stay on the throttle right up until a light. Just coast to it.

I never said anything about staying on the throttle.

 

[drebo]

Nope. Instead, bad or chronically reckless drivers should have their licenses revoked. If they continue to drive without a license, they should be fined heavily. If they still insist on illegally driving, they should be imprisoned.

Driving a car is not a right, it has the potential to be extremely devastating to other people, and should be treated as such.

 

[ElFenix]

Weaving through traffic at high speed is an example of something a driver should NOT do.

i agree.

what i'm wondering: dude weaves through traffic at high speed, zipping between cars, often with only a couple feet to spare either way. system thinks that because dude is rapidly approaching the car in front (intending to shoot the gap into the next lane), the system hits the brake as dude is executing his lane change, suddenly slowing his car. causing the car he's just passed and was getting in front of to run into him.

 

[sandorski]

Nope. Instead, bad or chronically reckless drivers should have their licenses revoked. If they continue to drive without a license, they should be fined heavily. If they still insist on illegally driving, they should be imprisoned.

Driving a car is not a right, it has the potential to be extremely devastating to other people, and should be treated as such.

Indeed.

Also, these systems are not being made because of "Bad Drivers". They are being made because there are simply circumstances where Human Drivers make mistakes that lead to accidents.