Should Obama be bowing to a Saudi King?

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

How about you educate yourself on the issue instead of whining about not having a pic or video in the thread. It's an obvious bow to any RATIONAL person - thus the OP asked the question on whether BHO should be bowing to the saudi king. Sheesh.

Ugh... any rational person wouldnt even give it a 2nd thought... as dozens of people have pointed out already ITS NOT A SUBMISSIVE BOW. ITS JUST BEING POLITE.

It really must be a slow news day when you guys cant even find an issue to bitch about - you have to twist a polite bow into some sort of submissive stance as if we are dogs. We are humans, this is a society. You and the OP are either faking outrage, or complete idiots... Which is it?

 

[JSt0rm]

lol. how the fuck did this get to be 6 pages.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
lol. how the fuck did this get to be 6 pages.

Lots of idiots looking to be upset. Too many intelligent folks answering them.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

How about you educate yourself on the issue instead of whining about not having a pic or video in the thread. It's an obvious bow to any RATIONAL person - thus the OP asked the question on whether BHO should be bowing to the saudi king. Sheesh.

Ugh... any rational person wouldnt even give it a 2nd thought... as dozens of people have pointed out already ITS NOT A SUBMISSIVE BOW. ITS JUST BEING POLITE.

It really must be a slow news day when you guys cant even find an issue to bitch about - you have to twist a polite bow into some sort of submissive stance as if we are dogs. We are humans, this is a society. You and the OP are either faking outrage, or complete idiots... Which is it?

If it is just being polite then why is the White House running around now claiming that Obama didn't actually bow to the guy??

Can we just be honest and admit that Obama screwed up and did something he shouldn't have done??

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

How about you educate yourself on the issue instead of whining about not having a pic or video in the thread. It's an obvious bow to any RATIONAL person - thus the OP asked the question on whether BHO should be bowing to the saudi king. Sheesh.

Ugh... any rational person wouldnt even give it a 2nd thought... as dozens of people have pointed out already ITS NOT A SUBMISSIVE BOW. ITS JUST BEING POLITE.

It really must be a slow news day when you guys cant even find an issue to bitch about - you have to twist a polite bow into some sort of submissive stance as if we are dogs. We are humans, this is a society. You and the OP are either faking outrage, or complete idiots... Which is it?

If it is just being polite then why is the White House running around now claiming that Obama didn't actually bow to the guy??

Can we just be honest and admit that Obama screwed up and did something he shouldn't have done??

Would you consider holding hands to be a screw up as well?

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

How about you educate yourself on the issue instead of whining about not having a pic or video in the thread. It's an obvious bow to any RATIONAL person - thus the OP asked the question on whether BHO should be bowing to the saudi king. Sheesh.

Ugh... any rational person wouldnt even give it a 2nd thought... as dozens of people have pointed out already ITS NOT A SUBMISSIVE BOW. ITS JUST BEING POLITE.

It really must be a slow news day when you guys cant even find an issue to bitch about - you have to twist a polite bow into some sort of submissive stance as if we are dogs. We are humans, this is a society. You and the OP are either faking outrage, or complete idiots... Which is it?

If it is just being polite then why is the White House running around now claiming that Obama didn't actually bow to the guy??

Can we just be honest and admit that Obama screwed up and did something he shouldn't have done??

Because the faux-outrage nazi's are making it into an issue. I personally think the WH shouldn't have said anything.

So, Cad, I know you are an intelligent human being... Tell me. Do you honestly think it was a submissive bow, rather than just being polite? Do you seriously think the leader of the free world is bowing in submission to some king of a tiny ass-backwards country?

 

[UberNeuman]

so, PJ - you do find Bush holding hands with the Saudi King to be a screw up as well?


and this goes to the rest of the peanut gallery as well.

Was it a mistake that the previous President walked around holding hands with the Saudi King?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

How about you educate yourself on the issue instead of whining about not having a pic or video in the thread. It's an obvious bow to any RATIONAL person - thus the OP asked the question on whether BHO should be bowing to the saudi king. Sheesh.

Ugh... any rational person wouldnt even give it a 2nd thought... as dozens of people have pointed out already ITS NOT A SUBMISSIVE BOW. ITS JUST BEING POLITE.

It really must be a slow news day when you guys cant even find an issue to bitch about - you have to twist a polite bow into some sort of submissive stance as if we are dogs. We are humans, this is a society. You and the OP are either faking outrage, or complete idiots... Which is it?

If it is just being polite then why is the White House running around now claiming that Obama didn't actually bow to the guy??

Can we just be honest and admit that Obama screwed up and did something he shouldn't have done??

Would you consider holding hands to be a screw up as well?

No, that is considered proper etiquette and does not equate to lowering yourself or making yourself appear as an inferior.

Also... if there is nothing wrong with bowing the why is the White House going out of their way to claim it was not a bow??
They should have just kept their mouths shut or blew it off as trivial etc etc.

 

[UberNeuman]

Guess I'm too old because to me bowing is a form of respect. Holding hands means you're a bitch....

 

[newnameman]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
so, PJ - you do find Bush holding hands with the Saudi King to be a screw up as well?


and this goes to the rest of the peanut gallery as well.

Was it a mistake that the previous President walked around holding hands with the Saudi King?

100+ posts into this thread and you still haven't come up with anything better than "bu bu bbu but Bush!!1!"?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: newnameman

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
so, PJ - you do find Bush holding hands with the Saudi King to be a screw up as well?


and this goes to the rest of the peanut gallery as well.

Was it a mistake that the previous President walked around holding hands with the Saudi King?

100+ posts into this thread and you still haven't come up with anything better than "bu bu bbu but Bush!!1!"?

Do you have a car? Do you not bow down to put the nozzle into the tank....

Bow down, chump.... and cr cr cr cry more....

and worship your Saudi Master...

 

[Jack Flash]

Well Bush was actually also President if you recall. So it's actually okay to draw comparisons with what he did towards the Saudi King. Am I talking slow enough for you?

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: newnameman

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
so, PJ - you do find Bush holding hands with the Saudi King to be a screw up as well?


and this goes to the rest of the peanut gallery as well.

Was it a mistake that the previous President walked around holding hands with the Saudi King?

100+ posts into this thread and you still haven't come up with anything better than "bu bu bbu but Bush!!1!"?

Considering the idiocy of this issue in the first place, why does that surprise you. Anyone that thinks Obama was being submissive needs their head examined. You all are at a point bnow where you are outraged when he is being polite. What else can you posibly complain about.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: retrospooty
What else can you posibly complain about.

oh, give it time...

and what these knobs don't seem to get is that they undermine the ideas they wish to "preserve."

 

[XMan]

Camille Paglia seems to think that "Bowgate" is a big deal.

Obama's staffing problems are blatant -- from that bleating boy of a treasury secretary to what appears to be a total vacuum where a chief of protocol should be. There has been one needless gaffe after another -- from the president's tacky appearance on a late-night comedy show to the kitsch gifts given to the British prime minister, followed by the sweater-clad first lady's over-familiarity with the queen and culminating in the jaw-dropping spectacle of a president of the United States bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia. Why was protest about the latter indignity confined to conservatives? The silence of the major media was a disgrace.

No raging conservative, she.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/p...9/04/08/bow/print.html

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: retrospooty
What else can you posibly complain about.

oh, give it time...

and what these knobs don't seem to get is that they undermine the ideas they wish to "preserve."

Sad but true. But what can you say for a bunch of guys whos only passtime is pointing out who hates America. LOL

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: newnameman

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
so, PJ - you do find Bush holding hands with the Saudi King to be a screw up as well?


and this goes to the rest of the peanut gallery as well.

Was it a mistake that the previous President walked around holding hands with the Saudi King?

100+ posts into this thread and you still haven't come up with anything better than "bu bu bbu but Bush!!1!"?

Considering the idiocy of this issue in the first place, why does that surprise you. Anyone that thinks Obama was being submissive needs their head examined. You all are at a point bnow where you are outraged when he is being polite. What else can you posibly complain about.

There's only 2 possibilities. Either Obama was being submissive with his bow or he's just a friggin idiot. I want to believe the latter because the former would be a disaster for the USA. Leaders of nations do not bow to other leaders of nations. It just doesn't happen, yet OBama chose to do so. It's wrong on so many levels. All Obama has done lately for the USA is bash the USA on the world stage and show he has no teeth. Then he bows to a foreign "king" and sends someone out to lie about it. For you Bush counters, holding hands is at most a gesture of mutual respect, not someone prostrating themselves in front of another leader.

It's just another peg in Obama's board of naive behavior that will get filed under the "weird" file because of how naive and foolish it was to bow to another world leader.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

There's only 2 possibilities. Either Obama was being submissive with his bow or he's just a friggin idiot. .

Again... You are missing the 3rd, and REAL option. He was being polite - its called diplomacy. Why is that so hard to understand, and why is this an issue?

 

[SP33Demon]

Omg Chuck Norris bowed to someone at 0:14!

Idiots, it's called respect.

 

[winnar111]

Why does he have to? Obama's no energy no drilling policy is a gift basket to the Saudis.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: winnar111
Why does he have to? Obama's no energy no drilling policy is a gift basket to the Saudis.

wow... your post is as backwards as your sig. Both are totally ignorant of facts and reality.

I wonder, is being totally ignorant easy, like you go through your days all lacksy daisy, or is it difficult, stressing out on things you dont have the mental ability to understand (like politics)??? Just curious.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: winnar111
Why does he have to? Obama's no energy no drilling policy is a gift basket to the Saudis.

wow... your post is as backwards as your sig. Both are totally ignorant of facts and reality.

I wonder, is being totally ignorant easy, like you go through your days all lacksy daisy, or is it difficult, stressing out on things you dont have the mental ability to understand (like politics)??? Just curious.

:laugh: Yeah, a direct quote from your hero is totally fabricated.

The fuel for Gore's private jet and Obama's rolling tank has to come from somewhere. And we're leaving ours in the ground.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: retrospooty

Originally posted by: winnar111
Why does he have to? Obama's no energy no drilling policy is a gift basket to the Saudis.

wow... your post is as backwards as your sig. Both are totally ignorant of facts and reality.

I wonder, is being totally ignorant easy, like you go through your days all lacksy daisy, or is it difficult, stressing out on things you dont have the mental ability to understand (like politics)??? Just curious.

:laugh: Yeah, a direct quote from your hero is totally fabricated.

The fuel for Gore's private jet and Obama's rolling tank has to come from somewhere. And we're leaving ours in the ground.

No, not the quote itself - What is ignorant is your USE of the quote.

 

[lupi]

How pathetic. There are written regulations that USN ships not bow to another nation, yet he's doing this.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
You can do a google search for a million videos or pictures of it. But should the President of the United States be bowing to ANY foreign leader? He didn't do it to the Queen of England but does it to a Saudi King? Seems to me to be sending the message that we are beneath the Saudi's.. also seems to fit with Obama's 'Blame America First' theme we saw in Europe.

Pretty sad if you ask me.. I know the first thing that will probably be mentioned is Bush's kissing of the King.. which I also think was inappropriate, but its pretty clear Bush did not think he was below the King.. but taken in context, with Obama apologizing for all of America's failings.. this seems pretty pathetic.

maybe you would have rather had him hold hands and kiss him on lips?
Which do you prefer?

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