Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
THIS IS MADNESS! MAKE IT STOP!!!!
Conservatives put up with stupid ass attacks on Bush on a daily basis, if you can't stand it when your guy is in power and making real stupid decisions such as acting like a foreign King's subordinate (and then LYING he did it), maybe you should go frequent Hot Deals instead.
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: tweaker2
I really don't think he should have done it. Why'd he do it? We'll never really know. Most of the posts I've read up to this point is clearly agenda driven, so I can understand how the righties are jumping all over this like a pack of teased and starved pitbulls being thrown a bone. Fine. Just as expected.
Though, to me, I'm not so much disturbed that Pres. Obama actually did it inasmuch as it puts him in the same league as Bush, which bothers me a lot because it somewhat remotely alludes to an unknown entity that both Bush and Obama have to answer to, which while probably not being the case, did force me to connect some imaginary dots in this particular direction.
I think an over-enthusiastic handshake turned into a small bow. No intended symbolism apart from general good will and respect. It's a gaffe but such a non-issue.
So then why the lies?
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: tweaker2
I really don't think he should have done it. Why'd he do it? We'll never really know. Most of the posts I've read up to this point is clearly agenda driven, so I can understand how the righties are jumping all over this like a pack of teased and starved pitbulls being thrown a bone. Fine. Just as expected.
Though, to me, I'm not so much disturbed that Pres. Obama actually did it inasmuch as it puts him in the same league as Bush, which bothers me a lot because it somewhat remotely alludes to an unknown entity that both Bush and Obama have to answer to, which while probably not being the case, did force me to connect some imaginary dots in this particular direction.
I think an over-enthusiastic handshake turned into a small bow. No intended symbolism apart from general good will and respect. It's a gaffe but such a non-issue.
Originally posted by: Jiggz
BHO used to be a Muslim so you can't blame him, for old habits are hard to die!
Originally posted by: tweaker2
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: tweaker2
I really don't think he should have done it. Why'd he do it? We'll never really know. Most of the posts I've read up to this point is clearly agenda driven, so I can understand how the righties are jumping all over this like a pack of teased and starved pitbulls being thrown a bone. Fine. Just as expected.
Though, to me, I'm not so much disturbed that Pres. Obama actually did it inasmuch as it puts him in the same league as Bush, which bothers me a lot because it somewhat remotely alludes to an unknown entity that both Bush and Obama have to answer to, which while probably not being the case, did force me to connect some imaginary dots in this particular direction.
I think an over-enthusiastic handshake turned into a small bow. No intended symbolism apart from general good will and respect. It's a gaffe but such a non-issue.
So then why the lies?
I believe it was a "brush-off" lie, if it all. You know, the kind where they think it is just as insignificant as the allegation it is answering to.
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Jiggz
BHO used to be a Muslim so you can't blame him, for old habits are hard to die!
what the hell?
also to the OP: considering that Saudi Oil owns the US, do you think it's somehow disengenuous for the POTUS, whoever it happens to be, to bow to the Saudis?
C'mon, think about it.
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
THIS IS MADNESS! MAKE IT STOP!!!!
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
THIS IS MADNESS! MAKE IT STOP!!!!
NO!!!!
THIS !!!!
IS !!!!
SPARRRTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
With regards to the bow, I see it as a non issue. Obama is showing respect to the king, if that nets us more support for our efforts in the middle east, great. If not, then so what? It's not like Obama gave the dude a blow job.
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
THIS IS MADNESS! MAKE IT STOP!!!!
NO!!!!
THIS !!!!
IS !!!!
SPARRRTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
With regards to the bow, I see it as a non issue. Obama is showing respect to the king, if that nets us more support for our efforts in the middle east, great. If not, then so what? It's not like Obama gave the dude a blow job.
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Why does the Administration deny doing it then?
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Why does the Administration deny doing it then?
Because commentators have decided that 'bow' means submit not respect. They made the decision for the White House.
Yeah but the Real Bush got even by puking in the Japanese PM's lap..or at least that was the reason they gave for him bobbing his head on the guys lap:shocked:Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Only if the Saudi King is bowing back...
BTW, has any other President done this before?
My understanding is NO.
Actually Bush Sr. gave a slight head bow to the Emperor of Japan while he was president, and he was excoriated for it.
A full bow to the waist is not a gesture of respect. It is one of subservience.
This isn't a really big deal in itself, just YAOG (yet another Obama gaffe) which goes to show just how completely inexperienced and over his head he is.
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
THIS IS MADNESS! MAKE IT STOP!!!!
NO!!!!
THIS !!!!
IS !!!!
SPARRRTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
With regards to the bow, I see it as a non issue. Obama is showing respect to the king, if that nets us more support for our efforts in the middle east, great. If not, then so what? It's not like Obama gave the dude a blow job.
Why does the Administration deny doing it then?
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
THIS IS MADNESS! MAKE IT STOP!!!!
NO!!!!
THIS !!!!
IS !!!!
SPARRRTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
With regards to the bow, I see it as a non issue. Obama is showing respect to the king, if that nets us more support for our efforts in the middle east, great. If not, then so what? It's not like Obama gave the dude a blow job.
Why does the Administration deny doing it then?
Truth isn't black and white for them (truthiness).
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Why does the Administration deny doing it then?
Truth isn't black and white for them (truthiness).
1. He bowed.
2. Maybe he shouldn't have.
3. The white house is flat out lying when it says it wasn't a bow.
4. This issue is beyond minute in comparison to everything else going on, so let's let whoever wishes to be outraged be outraged.
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: jonks
3. The white house is flat out lying when it says it wasn't a bow.
Let me get this straight....
Are you saying that our White Housing is lying to us?
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: jonks
3. The white house is flat out lying when it says it wasn't a bow.
Let me get this straight....
Are you saying that our White Housing is lying to us?
No, where did I say that?
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: jonks
3. The white house is flat out lying when it says it wasn't a bow.
Let me get this straight....
Are you saying that our White Housing is lying to us?
No, where did I say that?
"3. The white house is flat out lying when it says it wasn't a bow."
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
THIS is a problem?
An illegal and unjust war was nothing but bowing to some fucker is HORRIBLE?
Yeah, you twats got your priorities straight alright. :S
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
THIS is a problem?
An illegal and unjust war was nothing but bowing to some fucker is HORRIBLE?
Yeah, you twats got your priorities straight alright. :S
Ok, then lets discuss about how Obama is changing very little in Iraq. Surely if this war is as unjust and illegal as you say it was, you could criticize him for that?
Originally posted by: jonks
If by changing very little you mean withdrawing 2/3 of troops by next year and the remainder by 2011 pursuant to an agreement Bush made last November...
What more should he be doing exactly?