Should people with allergies be prevented from getting medication?

krylon

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In other words, are anti-allergy medications for hereditary allergies affecting gene pool Darwinism?

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Risk factors for allergy can be placed in two general categories, namely host and environmental factors. Host factors include heredity, sex, race, and age, with heredity being by far the most significant. However, there have been recent increases in the incidence of allergic disorders that cannot be explained by genetic factors alone. Four major environmental candidates are alterations in exposure to infectious diseases during early childhood, environmental pollution, allergen levels, and dietary changes
 

DingDingDao

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This is stupid. Maybe we should prevent diabetics from getting insulin. Better yet, let's just prevent anyone from getting medication. While we're at it, let's stop purifying water and turn off electricity.
 

Dirigible

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Yes.

We shouldn't give people with bacterial infections antibiotics either.

No glasses, contacts or lasik.

I could go on...
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: krylon
In other words, are anti-allergy medications affecting gene pool Darwinism?

allergies are a learned immune response. Few of them are directly hereditary.
Individuals whos parents are allergic, may be more likely to be allergic, but often to different allergens.
 

Gibsons

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People who get in car wrecks shouldn't be allowed into the emergency room either. Oh, and no more chemotherapy for cancer patients either.
 

Baked

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By that same token of thought, wouldn't you say they should stop feeding poor and hungry people to prevent procreation of even more poor and hungry people?
 

krylon

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Not sure what you guys preaching about, but I'm referring to hereditary allergies.

 

LifesABeta

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I don't quite follow along with the OP. Are you trying to say preventing allergies is a bad thing? Kind of like saying, you can't always avoid germs.. you need to expose yourself to them to make your immune system stronger?
 

krylon

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Originally posted by: LifesABeta
I don't quite follow along with the OP. Are you trying to say preventing allergies is a bad thing? Kind of like saying, you can't always avoid germs.. you need to expose yourself to them to make your immune system stronger?

Wiki:

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Risk factors for allergy can be placed in two general categories, namely host and environmental factors. Host factors include heredity, sex, race, and age, with heredity being by far the most significant. However, there have been recent increases in the incidence of allergic disorders that cannot be explained by genetic factors alone. Four major environmental candidates are alterations in exposure to infectious diseases during early childhood, environmental pollution, allergen levels, and dietary changes

I'm just asking the question about hereditary allergies. My OP sucks like a cheap whore, so I'll edit.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: krylon
Not sure what you guys preaching about, but I'm referring to hereditary allergies.

People have a predisposition to diabetes, heart failure, and breast cancer.

Most allergies aren't directly inherited or lethal. So if you were going to make a case for "gene pool darwinism" it would make much more sense to stop treating the above conditions than to not treat allergies.
 

krylon

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Originally posted by: krylon
Not sure what you guys preaching about, but I'm referring to hereditary allergies.

People have a predisposition to diabetes, heart failure, and breast cancer.

Most allergies aren't directly inherited or lethal. So if you were going to make a case for "gene pool darwinism" it would make much more sense to stop treating the above conditions than to not treat allergies.

Hi sir. This thread is about allergies. :beer:
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
Most allergies aren't directly inherited or lethal. So if you were going to make a case for "gene pool darwinism" it would make much more sense to stop treating the above conditions than to not treat allergies.

This. Neither my wife or I have any allergies. I don't think there is anybody else in my family that has allergies either. Yet both of my kids have food allergies. Fortunately, my oldest has outgrown all but the peanut allergy and my daughter has outgrown all but the peanut and seafood allergies.

We have no idea how they ended up with food allergies and neither do the doctors.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: krylon
Originally posted by: LifesABeta
I don't quite follow along with the OP. Are you trying to say preventing allergies is a bad thing? Kind of like saying, you can't always avoid germs.. you need to expose yourself to them to make your immune system stronger?

Wiki:

Cause
Risk factors for allergy can be placed in two general categories, namely host and environmental factors. Host factors include heredity, sex, race, and age, with heredity being by far the most significant. However, there have been recent increases in the incidence of allergic disorders that cannot be explained by genetic factors alone. Four major environmental candidates are alterations in exposure to infectious diseases during early childhood, environmental pollution, allergen levels, and dietary changes

I'm just asking the question about hereditary allergies. My OP sucks like a cheap whore, so I'll edit.

So, people with allergies that could be fatal without medication (beestings) should die if they "by chance" get stung....is that what you are saying? Fucking stupid.

 

DangerAardvark

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Allergy medication would only have an effect on evolution if the allergies actually prevented reproduction... which they don't. So you're dumb.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Allergy medication would only have an effect on evolution if the allergies actually prevented reproduction... which they don't. So you're dumb.

Maybe some women don't find snot attractive.
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: krylon
Hi sir. This thread is about allergies. :beer:

Why single out allergies?

In any case, no you are wrong, this thread is now about bacon.

Who loves bacon?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: krylon
Not sure what you guys preaching about, but I'm referring to hereditary allergies.

You're upset the "emotional thinker" crowd. Don't expect many rational responses.
 

91TTZ

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In the short term giving medication/aid to those with hereditary ailments helps. In the long term it hurts the human race as a whole since traits that would otherwise be weeded out can spread.

Take poor vision, for instance. Before glasses, it was relatively rare to have poor vision. Those with poor vision would have trouble functioning in everyday life and there would certainly be a stigma associated with such a "cripple". After glasses were invented poor eyesight was no longer a limitation. People with poor vision bred and spread their genes. Now, poor eyesight is extremely common as a result of this.

This is fairly easy to understand, but many people are extremely emotional and they let their feelings override reason. When dealing with other animals that reproduce sexually the way we do, logic and science prevails. But when humans are the subject, it becomes a hot issue and it gets politicized. Any science is often driven by political leanings.
 
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