The power was comparably to the .45 ACP, a 230 gr. bullet at about 900 fps. They killed grizzly bears with it.
The power was comparably to the .45 ACP, a 230 gr. bullet at about 900 fps. They killed grizzly bears with it.Where did they get compressed air, at the gas station? No, it took 1500 pumps from a wagon mounted air pump. Not very practical. But it was the first BBgun..
It was a hand pump, not a mounted pump.Yep, no gas station! lol
It was about equal in power to the .45 He's being disingenuous to compare it to a BB gun, nothing new with him.Air is all around us, not just at gas stations. lol
My kids have a pump bb and pellet gun they target shoot with, they never go to a gas station between shots.
Not sure if serious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year
"The table below shows the motor vehicle fatality rate in the United States by year from 1899 through 2016. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 2016 data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day."
But this in no way means every single injury or death from gun violence isn't a tragedy we need to do our best to prevent.
That's not a good thing.Most of my experience with liberals comes from this forum.
"All too many of the other great tragedies of history - Stalin’s atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few - were perpetrated by armed troops against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece, as the Militia Act required here. If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars.
My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."
Justice Alex Kozinski Silveira v. Lockyer, 2003
I'm not really focused on a possible tyrannical government but I don't begrudge those that do.
Register all guns, make the registered owner liable for any crimes committed with the gun if the owner hasn't reported it stolen or sold.I’m was simply pointing out that if we want to actually have a significant impact on gun homicides we might want to brainstorm on how to keep them out of the hands of criminals. Did you miss the part where I mentioned stiff penalties for possession of a stolen gun? I’m far from an expert but if I had to guess, shady dealers/brokers are really the root of the problem. What are your ideas of how we can reduce gun homicides?
Muh rights!Register all guns, make the registered owner liable for any crimes committed with the gun if the owner hasn't reported it stolen or sold.
It's not stopping anyone from owning a gun and as they are all responsible gun owners they should be able to keep tabs on their guns!Muh rights!
*shrug* I don't disagree. Personal repsonibility is lip service only for someIt's not stopping anyone from owning a gun and as they are all responsible gun owners they should be able to keep tabs on their guns!
Register all guns, make the registered owner liable for any crimes committed with the gun if the owner hasn't reported it stolen or sold.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/4-million-guns-uk-streets-7598164There are 4 MILLION guns on UK streets – and 4,000 youngsters have shotgun licences
A Mirror probe into firearms in the UK found there are 1.3million legal shotguns in England and Wales alone - and around 500,000 illegal guns
I don't believe this would keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Join the NRA!Absolutely. Get guns out of everyone's hands and you shouldn't need one to "defend" yourself. The only way you are going to disarm people is to repeal the 2nd Amendment. Do it ASAP! Damn the NRA, they are in it for the money, they don't care about you or yours or anyone else. The NRA is the enemy!
Agreed. If the anger issues rise to the level of criminal behavior that is when you lose your gun rights. If you are committed by a court or found mentally deficient or unable to care for yourself that is also when you lose your gun rights. But those decisions need to be made by a court of law to afford the person their due process. Allowing doctors or psychiatrists to pass judgement would violate that due process. Heck, some doctors would just rule everyone unfit to exercise their 2A rights out of some misguided attempt to make the world a better place.I would change mental health to mental fitness. Someone with anger issues should not own a gun yet anger isn't classified as mental illness.
Psychological screenings should be part of the process for obtaining a gun license.
I'm replying to the often stated fact that owning a gun makes you less safe statistically. Of course it does! It's impossible to hurt yourself with a gun if you don't own one. Just like you are not going to accidentally hurt yourself with scissors if you don't own a pair. Accident happen and we can't stop everyone who wants to used their gun to hurt themselves, so the statement is obviously true. I also understand the likelihood of needing a gun for self-defense is small, but that doesn't give anyone the right to tell another person they can't have one to defend themselves. Or shoot for sport, hunting or any other reason.Do all your arguments drift into absurdity fallacy? I'm guessing yes.
Also, side note: are you Spyder?
Then tell us how you would round up all the guns except shotguns? There are already more guns in the US than people, which would make it almost impossible without starting a civil war. The gun culture is too ingrained in the US psyche, as is the idea that Constitutional rights can only be stripped from a person after due process.No one has ever suggested that all the guns should be grabbed! Even in the UK you can pretty easily get a shotgun.
What your doing is making a false argument as to why nothing should be done.
Name one that will work without breaking the 2A?Ok. Theres a billion steps that you can do to reduce the amount of guns in the US without a ban.
No, no, no. It was purposely written without specifying exactly which guns were legal and illegal so we could interpret the law via our courts and judicial review. Overly specific laws are too easy to circumvent and defeat the purpose of via technicalities.2nd amendment needs to be re written for modern interpretation. This will solve many issues. The current gun debate mostly stems from the poorly written 2nd amendment that was stuck in the 1700s.
That opinion is utter garbage.
First off, the constitution specifically states that state militias (there's that word again) can be called upon to put down insurrections and to suppress rebellions. Plus history has shown us that the militia has actually been used for such cases. The fact that people think the 2nd is a last resort to check the federal government is the most ridiculous thing ever. Who exactly would determine when and if a government has overreached? Because in order to get to that point not only would it have to be elected officials and the president but it would also have to be the courts, who would all have to be in on it. If we ever get to the point were checks and balances are useless then its already too late, tyranny is already here.
Those that think the 2nd is to stop a tyrannical government are living in a fantasy world and quite honestly those are the people most dangerous to our republic.
What's worse is that 250,000 people per year die in hospital accidents/errors. No one is proposing banning hospitals though. If you want to bring the hammer of regulation down on something to save lives bring it down on Doctors and hospital staff.
https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death/
"Analyzing medical death rate data over an eight-year period, Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S. Their figure, published May 3 in The BMJ, surpasses the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's third leading cause of death—respiratory disease, which kills close to 150,000 people per year."
If you do manage to disarm everyone, and keep illegal weapons from flooding into the country, and keep folks from making guns in basement workshops, what do you do about the resulting sword violence? It's not like violent criminals without a gun will suddenly embrace lawfulness.Absolutely. Get guns out of everyone's hands and you shouldn't need one to "defend" yourself. The only way you are going to disarm people is to repeal the 2nd Amendment. Do it ASAP! Damn the NRA, they are in it for the money, they don't care about you or yours or anyone else. The NRA is the enemy!