Should the U.S. Attack the Assad Regime?

[hal2kilo]

There is no "win" there. No possibility of any good outcome. JUST SAY NO TO ME WARS!

 

[nageov3t]

no.

if the UN or Arab League were building a coalition, I'd support US involvement, but I don't think we should unilaterally bomb Syria.

 

[PokerGuy]

Putin called Kerry a liar today:

Putin said, "This was very unpleasant and surprising for me. We talk to them (the Americans), and we assume they are decent people, but he is lying and he knows that he is lying. This is sad."

Kerry said in testimony that the rebels are becoming more moderate and not really the bad al-queda types. That's just laughable BS. I take anything Putin says with a big grain of salt, he's about as trustworthy as your average gaboon viper, but Kerry and the admin are putting on the big PR press right now trying to drum up support, and I don't believe them for a second.

 

[KMFJD]

I think we should get a coalition of willing American citizens (like Atreus) and allow them to intervene. Putting a bunch of good American boys at risk for Al Qaeda is immoral. Our soldiers have had more than a decade of war, I say give the poor bastards a break.

Flight from N.O. to Amman Jordan is only $900 and you'd be there in 17 hours ready to fight for freedom!

 

[Smoblikat]

Absofuckinglutely not. Let our enemies kill each other off.

This.

There is no evidence that assad used chemical weapons against their own people. There is, however, PROOF that chemical weapons were used.........I think this is another pearl harbor-eqsue sisuation where we either directly caused the chemical attacks or at the very least let someone else cause them, as an excuse to bomb the shit out of that place.

 

[Incorruptible]

Putin called Kerry a liar today:



Kerry said in testimony that the rebels are becoming more moderate and not really the bad al-queda types. That's just laughable BS. I take anything Putin says with a big grain of salt, he's about as trustworthy as your average gaboon viper, but Kerry and the admin are putting on the big PR press right now trying to drum up support, and I don't believe them for a second.

Putin can't be trusted but he did the right thing calling Kerry a liar. Kerry said Assad used chemical weapons and he's a liar. When will obama stop the lying?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Well, that's something to think about.

I'm still mostly on the fence, but I can't get around the idea of someone gassing civilian women and children, and getting away with it.

I hear you. But over 100,000 people have died in this civil war so far and roughly 10,000 have been civilian women and children. The fact that about 1,400 have died to chemical warfare is horrible...but the 100,000+ who've been killed through "conventional means" is horrible as well, and the ~600 who've died due to torture is especially horrible. Drawing a red line at 1400 deaths is arbitrary in my opinion. Dead is dead and war is hell.

I wish the rebels were the good guys here and that we could support them in good conscious...but the rebels are highly fragmented and the extremist groups within will likely be running things after Assad falls. If we attack Assad and substanially affect the balance of power in Syria, we will surely have innocent blood on our hands....whether or not we directly kill these innocents as collateral damage in our attempt to teach Assad a lesson or we indirectly kill thousands of innocents with the inevitable war aftermath and the religious persecutions/killings that will surely follow with a regime change that we helped orchestrate.

I can't believe Obama wants to do this.

 

[laspariahs]

The possibility of this snowballing out of control are huge. I can't see how it helps us either.... No to syria.

 

[Druidx]

I still haven't seen anyone offer a clear answer to exactly what the desired result is of dropping a few bombs.

 

[Incorruptible]

I still haven't seen anyone offer a clear answer to exactly what the desired result is of dropping a few bombs.

Just so that the moron obama looks good after making his idiotic comments about the red line. It's not about helping the people.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Thought I would take a look back at the Syria threads from the olden days
search- Syria thread title-P&N, I think P&N started around then, for older search OT

Some interesting ones to add some perspective

SYRIA -- MOST ADVANCED IN ARAB WORLD IN CHEMICAL WEAPONS
(Article by London correspondent, "Ma'ariv", Aug 8, 1996, p. A7)

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1031408&highlight=syria

Rumsfeld Warns Syria

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1024188&highlight=syria

Heh
Red Dawn layin the smack down over a decade ago

If you think Americans will support a war against Syria you are delusional.

 

[bshole]

This is what Mrs Assad looks like. Total westerner.

 

[Genx87]

So we know Kerry is lying about opposition forces and thus we ought not trust him on the rest of the matter. This is probably why Putin said the US is lying and referred to Kerry simply as a liar.

I am sure the rest of Kerry's testimony is equally as truthful.

 

[BlueWolf47]

Putin can't be trusted but he did the right thing calling Kerry a liar. Kerry said Assad used chemical weapons and he's a liar. When will obama stop the lying?

Incorruptible has finnaly found leaders he can trust, Assad and Putin.

 

[soulcougher73]

Nope. Not our fight.

 

[MiniDoom]

not our problem

 

[werepossum]

Operation: Just the tip.

LOL +1

I've come 180 and voted no. The time has passed for maintaining credibility, and anyway after attacking Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya our credibility as a dangerous maniac nation is pretty well established.

 

[PokerGuy]

Incorruptible has finnaly found leaders he can trust, Assad and Putin.

I know you have a hard time understanding things, but his post specifically said that Putin can't be trusted......

 

[MiniDoom]

wow, what a lopsided poll. great to see democracy in the work. I only hope obama will respect the wishes of the people.

 

[werepossum]

This is what Mrs Assad looks like. Total westerner.

She's a babe.

Pretty clear that the only reasons Assad sponsors terrorism is to keep Syria powerful relative to its Islamic neighbors and to keep the Islamicists busy in other nations rather than building a power base in his own. Frankly you could say the same about Saudi Arabia - for all they export the Wahhabi sect they certainly do not live by it, even though they have a much less secular nation.

 

[yllus]

No. The whole argument of not allowing the chemical weapons precedent to be broken is silly. It's never held a single dictator in place; they've held themselves back because it hasn't been more useful than conventional arms. Either way people die.

 

[DeadFred]

HELL NO!

As others have said "let our enemies kill each other".

POTUS went off the teleprompter script and painted himself into corner with his "red line", now he wants to pass the buck to congress, the world, or anyone but himself. Starting a war to help him safe face is ludicrous.

 

[Incorruptible]

Incorruptible has finnaly found leaders he can trust, Assad and Putin.

Keep making up more lies. Bluewolf is cheering on obama to attack Syria since it means more dead Christians.

 

[Anubis]

Not only "No" but "HELL NO!!!!"

this

 

[Bowfinger]

wow, what a lopsided poll. great to see democracy in the work. I only hope obama will respect the wishes of the people.

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