Should the US newspapers publish those cartoons about Muhammed?

[biostud]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: biostud

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Oh I'm sorry, when I said the ''danish'' I was talking specifically about the newspapers and the government, not the actual people. I should have specified.

It's not up to the government to judge if someone has broken the laws, that's why we have a court system. The government is not allowed to take actions against persons and private business. They make the laws but don't judge by them, and can definately not judge someone for something that isn't illegal in Denmark. Nor can they speak on behalf on the newspaper or be held responsible for what is printed in it. So I simply cannot see why you want the government to make an apology. The government is a representve of the majority of the danish people (democratic elected) and are the voice of these, and ultimately for whole of Denmark as a nation. So they could apologize if the "official Denmark" had done something wrong, not for what individuals are doing.

What Iran is doing is exactly where you could demand an apology from the leaders. It's the official Iran that boycuts and want to make drawings about the Holocaust. There's a large difference and I hope you can see it. If the danish governmnet had done the contest with the drawings they should ofcorse apologize, but they would never do such a thing.

Exactly, the government SHOULD have the power to step in and do all that.

As for if Iran doing it, its wrong and they should stop and apologize. Why can't danish people say the same about their newspapers? Too much pride?

I guess we just have to disagree on how a modern society should work. I don't think the government should be allowed to censor material that is offensive to some people.

I can't say sorry because I haven't done anything that insults muslims, I can say that I wouldn't have drawn the cartoons because I know it will be an insult to many people, as our Prime Minister already has said. But he simply hasn't got any rights by danish law to apologize on behalf of what the newpaper has done.

 

[1prophet]

Should the US newspapers publish those cartoons about Muhammed?
Created On 02/08/2006 12:55 AM by raildogg



If they are looking to be right then yes.

If they are looking to do right then no.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: Grunt03
Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!! Yes!!!

I don't see what all of the excitement is about. If it were another religion all would be fine but hey " Muhammed " is off limits. Please give me a break. In this country and many others we have our rights giving free speach. That cartoon was not that bad, no worse than what I have seen of a certain religion with little boys?

If they want special treatment for their religion, go back home, protest there, brun and destroy all you want. If you do it else where, lock them up, fine them and for the more extream, deport them.

lock and load baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too much sugar this morning?

Some people see these fruitcakes who are over reacting as people who are a great threat to humanity and they remind me of some sort of scary psycho animals in video games that you have to kill or they will kill you.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: judasmachine
There is simply no reason. If you do it now you're intentionally inciting further violence, and not just expressing an opinion.

So the news should not be reported because it may offend certain people?

That's not the point, we know what happened, and it doesn't take much digging for you to find them. To do it now is just aggravating the situation. I'm all for offending people, especially with my art, but this 'news' has already been reported.

True we know what happened because we spent the time to dig for the information, but that isn't how it's supposed to be. Now at least 10 people have died and much property has been destroyed. These cartoons were the main reason for that. They should be included in the stories to give context to what is being reported. Lots of things reported in the news I find offensive, however, I don't think I would be better off if they were simply withheld because of my feelings.

I understand your position, but I feel now it'd do more harm than good.

And I understand yours, and while I do see why the cartoons are causing problems and are offensive, I feel that censorship of this will result in a precedent that will just cause further problems down the road.

It's not nesecarily censorship unless the government tells them not to do so. If the editor in chief of a given newspaper choose to print or to abstain, that's his decision to make. I am just on the side of restraint.

 

[OrByte]

The US condemnation of the cartoons is wrong. You can't recognize freedom of speech and press on one hand and then turn around and make special accomodations for a group with the other. Now, if we are talking about a press piece that verbally bashed muslims ON PURPOSE then there might be a valid case for condemning the author because of his INTENTIONS. With a cartoon dripping with political satire there is no clear intention of the author, therefore you cannot condemn his work as being intentionally insulting (even though it insults a great many people.)

The US is wussing out on this big time in the hopes of gaining ground with the muslim people. That is really funny considering the US is still in a war in Iraq.

 

[SpongeBob]

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: judasmachine

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: judasmachine
There is simply no reason. If you do it now you're intentionally inciting further violence, and not just expressing an opinion.

So the news should not be reported because it may offend certain people?

That's not the point, we know what happened, and it doesn't take much digging for you to find them. To do it now is just aggravating the situation. I'm all for offending people, especially with my art, but this 'news' has already been reported.

True we know what happened because we spent the time to dig for the information, but that isn't how it's supposed to be. Now at least 10 people have died and much property has been destroyed. These cartoons were the main reason for that. They should be included in the stories to give context to what is being reported. Lots of things reported in the news I find offensive, however, I don't think I would be better off if they were simply withheld because of my feelings.

I understand your position, but I feel now it'd do more harm than good.

And I understand yours, and while I do see why the cartoons are causing problems and are offensive, I feel that censorship of this will result in a precedent that will just cause further problems down the road.

It's not nesecarily censorship unless the government tells them not to do so. If the editor in chief of a given newspaper choose to print or to abstain, that's his decision to make. I am just on the side of restraint.

It's self-censorship on the part of the media outlets. Now they are afraid that if they report the news fully, more people's feelings will be hurt and who knows what these people will do in reaction? I don't think they can continue down this road of being afraid of offending people by reporting fairly and accurately or else they will become irrelevant.

I'm not arguing that the original publication wasn't in poor taste, but the reaction needs to be reported and that report needs to be put in context. They aren't going to publish them for the reaction or to make a point, they should publish them because that's their function.

 

[UzairH]

YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

 

[SpongeBob]

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

I see many things on the nightly news that cause me distress, rapes, murders, poverty, etc.

Should they stop reporting this news because I am distressed?

 

[UzairH]

Also, I'm bitter about this world. Clash of fcking Civilizations? Hardly! Its the Childishness of Civilizations. I believe that most humans are stupid, regardless of nationality or religion. A LOT of Muslims are extremely stupid. So are Christians, Jews, blah blah. Stupidity trasncends boundaries.

Let me make myself clear. WHY THE FCK IS SO MUCH HUMAN EFFORT SPENT in WAR AND HATE?? The USA's 'defense' budget alone could solve ALL the world's hunger and poverty and easily curable diseases in poor nations. And no, I do not for a moment think it is just the white man who wages war. Look at Africa. Look at what we the Muslims do to ourselves.

For this blind self-destruction, disregard and disrespect for others, humans are the least intelligent species on the planet.

Finally, coming from such a general perspective to a more specific ones, I have questions for you in the USA: I know, I understand, I respect, and share your grief about the attack on the WTC. You ask yourself WHO did that. Why do you not ask WHY it was done if it was done by some muslim group? WHY do they hate us so? Maybe you'll find the answers are not that we are mad, unreasoning creatures, but humans who have been harmed by you. Do not hide behind ignorance or self-righteousness. You know what the US government has been involved in in South America, the Middle East, and Africa. Do not wish away the Palestinian people. If the European nations carry a burden of guilt over the treatment of Jews in WWII, then why not give the Jews a home in Germany? Why punish the people of Palestine?

Oh, and by the way, I hate people like bin laden more than anyone else, because they have become the twisted, corrupt, degenerate face of Islam. They above all are the enemies of my religion. Like I said, I believe stupidity and ignorance transends all boundaries.

I await intelligent answers.

 

[UzairH]

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

I see many things on the nightly news that cause me distress, rapes, murders, poverty, etc.

Should they stop reporting this news because I am distressed?

Your answer sir, is very, I hate to say it, ignorant. You do not understand what I say by distress. Let me clarify then: the same distress that would be caused you if someone insulted your mother. The same distress if someone insulted your father who died in war. you would feel angry, would you not? If you have self control, like humans should have, like you advocate to us Muslims in this matter, then you would refrain from violence. But you would feel angry nevertheless.

But my having to explain in itself reveals your lack of respect for my feelings. This was exactly the point I made before. When I say I'm hurting, why do not just BELIEVE it? Do I have to explain why and how I am hurting? If your friend, or indeed any person, is physically hurt, when he proclaims his pain, do you doubt him and ask him to prove it, prove his injury, instead of taking care of him?

This lack of trust, lack of faith is the start of human failure, and why we as a species are where we are today.

 

[EatSpam]

Sure. Its not like a cartoon could make the Muslim world hate us any more than they already do. Besides, I'm all for free speech.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: UzairH

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

Someone can still draw Mo and give you respect. The same way you can eat meat and still give respect to a vegetarian. You know that you cause some vegetarians distress by eating meat, then why should you persist in causing us grief?

 

[SpongeBob]

Originally posted by: UzairH

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

I see many things on the nightly news that cause me distress, rapes, murders, poverty, etc.

Should they stop reporting this news because I am distressed?

Your answer sir, is very, I hate to say it, ignorant. You do not understand what I say by distress. Let me clarify then: the same distress that would be caused you if someone insulted your mother. The same distress if someone insulted your father who died in war. you would feel angry, would you not? If you have self control, like humans should have, like you advocate to us Muslims in this matter, then you would refrain from violence. But you would feel angry nevertheless.

I don't know how you can possibly know what would cause me an equal amount of distress??? For all you know seeing a report of a murder on the news does cause me extreme anger. Everyone is different. That's not the point.

To use your analogy, if someone insulted my mother, and I violently reacted to it, I would expect no less than for the media to report what exactly it was that caused my actions.

 

[UzairH]

CanoWorms, you have a half-valid point. However, what possible thing is to be gained through the printing of those cartoons? Saying doing so upholds freedom of speech definitely does not count as the gain, since this argument is circular.

On the other hand, for a non-vegaterian meat is an essential source of protein. There is a definite gain from eating meat for a non-veg. A non-veg does not consume meat to spite the vegans. And frankly, do you think a vegan holds the same love and respect for animals as Muslims do for their beloved Messenger? Think rationally, in an unbiased way, disregard your beliefs.

 

[dahunan]

If it offends so much then why cause more offense to the world by acting like sociopathic animals

An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind

 

[SpongeBob]

Originally posted by: UzairH

A non-veg does not consume meat to spite the vegans.

Exactly! You just proved my point. These cartoons should be published in the context of reporting the news, not to spite people.

 

[UzairH]

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

I see many things on the nightly news that cause me distress, rapes, murders, poverty, etc.

Should they stop reporting this news because I am distressed?

Your answer sir, is very, I hate to say it, ignorant. You do not understand what I say by distress. Let me clarify then: the same distress that would be caused you if someone insulted your mother. The same distress if someone insulted your father who died in war. you would feel angry, would you not? If you have self control, like humans should have, like you advocate to us Muslims in this matter, then you would refrain from violence. But you would feel angry nevertheless.

I don't know how you can possibly know what would cause me an equal amount of distress??? For all you know seeing a report of a murder on the news does cause me extreme anger. Everyone is different. That's not the point.

To use your analogy, if someone insulted my mother, and I violently reacted to it, I would expect no less than for the media to report what exactly it was that caused my actions.

Dear SpongeBob,

I fear I fail to understand your logic again. Please clarify what would cause you the distress: the murder, or the news report about it? I would think you would get angry about the murder itself, and not with the media for reporting it. This is totally non-analogous with the cartoons story. Here the hurt comes from the report itself - there is nothing to report, except depict the Messenger of the Muslims in way sure to offend them.

But, AGAIN, the above discussion is irrelevant. If you say you are distressed, I believe you. I will help you or try to share the burden. Let me AGAIN say what I have said above:

But my having to explain in itself reveals your lack of respect for my feelings. This was exactly the point I made before. When I say I'm hurting, why do not just BELIEVE it? Do I have to explain why and how I am hurting? If your friend, or indeed any person, is physically hurt, when he proclaims his pain, do you doubt him and ask him to prove it, prove his injury, instead of taking care of him?

This lack of trust, lack of faith is the start of human failure, and why we as a species are where we are today.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: UzairH
CanoWorms, you have a half-valid point. However, what possible thing is to be gained through the printing of those cartoons? Saying doing so upholds freedom of speech definitely does not count as the gain, since this argument is circular.

On the other hand, for a non-vegaterian meat is an essential source of protein. There is a definite gain from eating meat for a non-veg. A non-veg does not consume meat to spite the vegans. And frankly, do you think a vegan holds the same love and respect for animals as Muslims do for their beloved Messenger? Think rationally, in an unbiased way, disregard your beliefs.

Yes, some vegeterians do hold love and respect for animals on the level of Mohammed & Muslims.

You can draw Mohammed not with the intention to spite Muslims. The US Supreme Court has an image of Mohammed on the building among other lawmakers of history. The TV show South Park had Mohammed in an episode with other religious figures in a satire.

I also need you to think rationally, unbiased, and disregard your belief of Mohammed for this and think in someone else's role. In an inhomogeneous society, people will be violating the beliefs of others. It's bound to happen with such diversity.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH

A non-veg does not consume meat to spite the vegans.

Exactly! You just proved my point. These cartoons should be published in the context of reporting the news, not to spite people.

This whole debacle is just as funny as the Klan marching through a neighborhood to protest black crime .. .so what happens.. the blacks riot and burn down buildings etc..

Nobody reports the truth anymore.. I think the bigger story here is the disgusting response from THE RELIGION OF PEACE

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: UzairH

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

I see many things on the nightly news that cause me distress, rapes, murders, poverty, etc.

Should they stop reporting this news because I am distressed?

Your answer sir, is very, I hate to say it, ignorant. You do not understand what I say by distress. Let me clarify then: the same distress that would be caused you if someone insulted your mother. The same distress if someone insulted your father who died in war. you would feel angry, would you not? If you have self control, like humans should have, like you advocate to us Muslims in this matter, then you would refrain from violence. But you would feel angry nevertheless.

But my having to explain in itself reveals your lack of respect for my feelings. This was exactly the point I made before. When I say I'm hurting, why do not just BELIEVE it? Do I have to explain why and how I am hurting? If your friend, or indeed any person, is physically hurt, when he proclaims his pain, do you doubt him and ask him to prove it, prove his injury, instead of taking care of him?

This lack of trust, lack of faith is the start of human failure, and why we as a species are where we are today.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Still not going to get any traction with reasonable people. You insult my mother so I burn down buildings and try to kill people and generally behave like an animal? Ummmm, no.

 

[UzairH]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: UzairH

Originally posted by: SpongeBob

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I could care less how you protray Muslims, our leaders, or our so-called imams. BUT, if the cartoons are explicitly stated to depict our Messenger, then that does cause me distress.

The matter at hand is about respect. If I respect you as a human being, regardless of race or religion, I would not intentionally cause you distress by insulting something you hold dear. Isn that not the definition of being a human being and respect? It does not matter that you do not understand the reason, our psyche for why we are caused such distress. Once you do know that are distressed, then why should you persist in causing us grief? Especially since you stand to gain nothing by it?

I see many things on the nightly news that cause me distress, rapes, murders, poverty, etc.

Should they stop reporting this news because I am distressed?

Your answer sir, is very, I hate to say it, ignorant. You do not understand what I say by distress. Let me clarify then: the same distress that would be caused you if someone insulted your mother. The same distress if someone insulted your father who died in war. you would feel angry, would you not? If you have self control, like humans should have, like you advocate to us Muslims in this matter, then you would refrain from violence. But you would feel angry nevertheless.

But my having to explain in itself reveals your lack of respect for my feelings. This was exactly the point I made before. When I say I'm hurting, why do not just BELIEVE it? Do I have to explain why and how I am hurting? If your friend, or indeed any person, is physically hurt, when he proclaims his pain, do you doubt him and ask him to prove it, prove his injury, instead of taking care of him?

This lack of trust, lack of faith is the start of human failure, and why we as a species are where we are today.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Still not going to get any traction with reasonable people. You insult my mother so I burn down buildings and try to kill people and generally behave like an animal? Ummmm, no.

Hey buddy, read my post a few posts up - I am as against these religious crazies as anybody, perhaps even more so. They ARE NOT real muslims. Unfortunately though, theyhave become the face of Islam.

And don't even get started on behaving like animals. Iraq, cluster bombs anyone? Oh right, thanks for the FREEDOM, and RELIGIOUS, SUICIDAL FANATICS, and FANTASTIC ECONOMY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, and OF COURSE PEACE!!!!

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: UzairH
Clash of fcking Civilizations? Hardly! Its the Childishness of Civilizations.

I was just reading something similar

It certainly feels like a clash of civilizations. But it is not.

By way of demonstration, allow me to recall the similar Muslim-Western confrontation that took place in 1989 over the publication of Salman Rushdie's novel The Satanic Verses and the resulting death edict from Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini. It first appeared, as now, that the West aligned solidly against the edict and the Muslim world stood equally with it. As the dust settled, however, a far more nuanced situation became apparent.

Significant voices in the West expressed sympathy for Khomeini. Former president Jimmy Carter responded with a call for Americans to be "sensitive to the concern and anger" of Muslims. The director of the Near East Studies Center at UCLA, Georges Sabbagh, declared Khomeini "completely within his rights" to sentence Rushdie to death. Immanuel Jakobovits, chief rabbi of the United Kingdom, wrote that "the book should not have been published" and called for legislation to proscribe such "excesses in the freedom of expression."

In contrast, important Muslims opposed the edict. Erdal Inönü, leader of Turkey's opposition Social Democratic party, announced that "killing somebody for what he has written is simply murder." Naguib Mahfouz, Egypt's winner of the 1988 Nobel Prize in literature, called Khomeini a "terrorist." A Palestinian journalist in Israel, Abdullatif Younis, dubbed The Satanic Verses "a great service."

This same division already exists in the current crisis. Middle East-studies professors are denouncing the cartoons even as two Jordanian editors went to jail for reprinting them.

It is a tragic mistake to lump all Muslims with the forces of darkness. Moderate, enlightened, free-thinking Muslims do exist. Hounded in their own circles, they look to the West for succor and support. And, however weak they may presently be, they eventually will have a crucial role in modernizing the Muslim world.

Lots of views in here
The Clash to End All Clashes?

 

[SpongeBob]

Originally posted by: UzairH

Dear SpongeBob,

I fear I fail to understand your logic again. Please clarify what would cause you the distress: the murder, or the news report about it? I would think you would get angry about the murder itself, and not with the media for reporting it. This is totally non-analogous with the cartoons story. Here the hurt comes from the report itself - there is nothing to report, except depict the Messenger of the Muslims in way sure to offend them.

But, AGAIN, the above discussion is irrelevant. If you say you are distressed, I believe you. I will help you or try to share the burden. Let me AGAIN say what I have said above:

But my having to explain in itself reveals your lack of respect for my feelings. This was exactly the point I made before. When I say I'm hurting, why do not just BELIEVE it? Do I have to explain why and how I am hurting? If your friend, or indeed any person, is physically hurt, when he proclaims his pain, do you doubt him and ask him to prove it, prove his injury, instead of taking care of him?

This lack of trust, lack of faith is the start of human failure, and why we as a species are where we are today.

Obviously there is something to report, events continue to take place that were sparked by the original publication of these cartoons. People are DYING. The reports of these events need to be put into context so that the people can read them have all the facts. If you are not distressed by reports, why would you not allow these cartoons to be part of the report, as they are the major cause of why the event that is being reported happened? They are not being used out of spite! I understand and trust that your feelings are hurt. People's feelings get hurt and they are insulted daily all througout the world. That's life. I will console you, but I want to know the truth about what is going on.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: UzairH
YES YOU HAVE A FRICKIN' RIGHT TO PUBLISH WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!

But there is a difference between a right and a choice. If you want to INTENTIONALLY INSULT Muslims then go ahead.

I don't think the press SHOULD intentionally insult Muslims or anybody else. However, it appears to me that every time 3 or more Muslim males are gathered together in one place, they intentionally insult MY country and the entire Hebrew race, burn some effigies and flags, chant death to me and my family, etc. And of course its no secret that the Arab press is packed full of anti-Semitic and anti-Western crap every damn day, but nobody takes hostages over that. So why should you guys be special? You don't give a damn about OUR feelings or the feeling of ANY non-Muslim (we're all just infidels), so why on earth should we care about yours?

You seem like a reasonable person, so surely you can admit that in the year 2006, it is abso-fvcking-lutely WRONG of your people and/or co-religionists to label everybody who isn't Muslim an "infidel". Or make death threats over a freakin' cartoon. Come on, man. Its barbaric and anachronistic. Its all about HATE and religious, racial, and sexual INTOLERANCE. You can try to cloak that bvllshyt in "religion" if you like, but nobody is fooled by it anymore. There is no excuse or defense, ESPECIALLY religion, which has historically been the cause of more bloodshed, grief, and fanaticism than any other subject.

So why should anyone care about offending Muslims, when they constantly offend, and hate, everyone else?

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: rchiu
If you think with ur ballz, hell yeah, if you think with ur brain, hell no.

There's a difference?