More like a new school, perhaps, since Democrats here have abandoned the working class. It's all in flux and I'm not going to claim to be the one to explain it properly, but some of the values that Democrats held a generation ago have been abandoned in favor of more niche interests. Some center-right conservatives naturally have to pick up the slack since many have been left unrepresented.Apologies. I did mean Republican policies there!
Is there an old school conservative political party in the US any more?
I'm not sure why this question is relevant but then again I try not to let political tribalism cloud my arguments. Are you trying to say that I should be held accountable to some leftist belief you encountered at some point, even though I never said any such thing and it wouldn't be relevant to this discussion even I did?Do you ignore radical elements of leftism as irrelevant to your beliefs, or do you embrace it all?
I mean I might have missed the subtleties but most of the noise on the right in the US seems to be about culture wars not a fight for workers rights!More like a new school, perhaps, since Democrats here have abandoned the working class. It's all in flux and I'm not going to claim to be the one to explain it properly, but some of the values that Democrats held a generation ago have been abandoned in favor of more niche interests. Some center-right conservatives naturally have to pick up the slack since many have been left unrepresented.
Yet you don't seem to account for the possibility that "right-wingers" might be grossly misrepresented in the news you consume, nor would you grant me the grace of not only being an honest participant, but as someone who could report accurately from places that you would never go on the fact that, no, most of us don't really want to make you worship a god or whatever horror you are conjuring. Mostly what I hear people wanting is a return to self-determination, you do your thing, I do mine. It's not hard to understand.I'm sure why this question is relevant but then again I try not to let political tribalism cloud my arguments. Are you trying to say that I should be held accountable to some leftist belief you encountered at some point, even though I never said any such thing and it wouldn't be relevant to this discussion even I did?
Look.. I get it. You self-identify as right-wing but are not for theocracy. So you get triggered when it's suggested that most right-wingers want a theocracy. Because in your mind, you're a right-winger and you don't want a theocracy, therefore it can't possibly be true that right-wingers want a theocracy!
/facepalm
Speaking of unrepresented, let us know when a center-right conservative is a frontrunner for the Republican nomination, and that is certainly not looking to be the case.More like a new school, perhaps, since Democrats here have abandoned the working class. It's all in flux and I'm not going to claim to be the one to explain it properly, but some of the values that Democrats held a generation ago have been abandoned in favor of more niche interests. Some center-right conservatives naturally have to pick up the slack since many have been left unrepresented.
There is a bit of subtlety that can be missed, since we are so busy arguing over utter insanity, is there even room for talking about how fucked the average citizen is? It's drowned out. Is it by design?I mean I might have missed the subtleties but most of the noise on the right in the US seems to be about culture wars not a fight for workers rights!
Your lips to God's ears.Speaking of unrepresented, let us know when a center-right conservative is a frontrunner for the Republican nomination, and that is certainly not looking to be the case.
The news I consume are the actual words of Republican officials and of the actual social media posts of conservatives.Yet you don't seem to account for the possibility that "right-wingers" might be grossly misrepresented in the news you consume, nor would you grant me the grace of not only being an honest participant, but as someone who could report accurately from places that you would never go on the fact that, no, most of us don't really want to make you worship a god or whatever horror you are conjuring. Mostly what I hear people wanting is a return to self-determination, you do your thing, I do mine. It's not hard to understand.
Ain't gonna happen. Because the center-right conservative doesn't exist anymore. Except of course, when they conveniently appear to apologize for extremism.Your lips to God's ears.
Yeah, I do get what you are saying. I think extremists do a really good job these days of driving the narrative.The news I consume are the actual words of Republican officials and of the actual social media posts of conservatives.
And except for a few apologists like you who always seem to exclusively troll liberal boards like this one, they all very openly want religious law.
Twas a dogwhistle to rights of the right workers, if you get my meaning.I mean I might have missed the subtleties but most of the noise on the right in the US seems to be about culture wars not a fight for workers rights!
I view as self-evident the need for both liberal and conservative elements in the body politic. Any imbalance results in dysfunction.Ain't gonna happen. Because the center-right conservative doesn't exist anymore. Except of course, when they conveniently appear to apologize for extremism.
Dog whistle always amused me as a political trope, like if it was not aimed at you, why did you hear it so well?Twas a dogwhistle to rights of the right workers, if you get my meaning.
That's because among right-wingers and Republicans, they're the majority. And yes, they are very vocal. They're very angry that their political tribe isn't in the White House crushing in the glorious name of the liberty and freedom all those leftists and liberals and non-Christians and 'thugs' and 'pedophile' LGBT who are trying to 'indoctrinate and destroy America!'Yeah, I do get what you are saying. I think extremists do a really good job these days of driving the narrative.
Because I have a finely tuned bullshit detector.Dog whistle always amused me as a political trope, like if it was not aimed at you, why did you hear it so well?
Finely tuned might also mean a narrow band. Tune to other stations now and again, who knows what you might find.Because I have a finely tuned bullshit detector.
You persist in a misapprehension. Makes me wonder about your fine tuned detector, and also your censored sources.That's because among right-wingers and Republicans, they're the majority. And yes, they are very vocal. They're very angry that their political tribe isn't in the White House crushing in the glorious name of the liberty and freedom all those leftists and liberals and non-Christians and 'thugs' and 'pedophile' LGBT who are trying to 'indoctrinate and destroy America!'
This is your party's brand, buddy. And while I sincerely wish you all the best in fixing that, I'm long long past that point and hope to see it burn so a new GOP can rise from the ashes.
I persist in observing what Republicans say. That is all.You persist in a misapprehension. Makes me wonder about your fine tuned detector, and also your censored sources.
I persist in being a proud US citizen, and an American. Thank you for the well wishes, I hope the same for you!I persist in observing what Republicans say. That is all.
Happy a Happy 4th!
If you're even American.
This "Christian Nationalism" has nothing to do with me or anything I have argued. I will freely admit I am a very poor advocate for my point of view. So what? That says less about me than it does about this forum. No sane, intelligent conservative would be caught dead posting in such a ridiculously hostile environment.
A majority of the party does not comprise "radical elements" you clown.Do you ignore radical elements of leftism as irrelevant to your beliefs, or do you embrace it all?
So what’s that got to do with the subject? Or where does that describe all the left’s banning of books, etc?Judge Orders Biden Officials to Limit Contact With Social-Media Companies
The preliminary injunction says the Biden administration’s policing of social media likely violated the First Amendment.www.wsj.com
I didn't think there were more than a few of those on this site. Of those, it would seem logical that sectarianism and patriotism would prevent too many from wanting to institute any sort of theocracy, most especially because it would mean the abolishment of the First Amendment. The only quasi-religious group that can be found openly hating on free speech is the censorious far left.