Should we get Anand to review these rooted nooks?

KDOG

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It would be interesting to see what his take on this "little tablet that can" with all the "undocumented capabilities" this thing has it would be cool to see a "price/perfomance" comparison to the other tablets. Just a thought....
 

poofyhairguy

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Not yet. Right now the Nook Color is going through rapid development to prepare for Honeycomb- added Bluetooth support, overhauled DSP support, and better kernel (sleep) support. As it now there is no single ROM that has everything working, but the progress is stepping up thanks to the ebay deal.

About two weeks to a month after Honeycomb ASOP drops would be the best time. I expect (hope for) a ROM that does everything by then- accelerated GUIs, DSP, Bluetooth, and Android 3.0. By the time all that sorts out (unless Google sits on ASOP HC for a while) the Nook Color will still be the best value tablet on the market.
 

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I'd love to see an in-depth review. After seeing a few Android fans insisting that their rooted Nook has speed and responsiveness comparable to iPad, I'd like to see those claims tested.

The only ones who bother to install Honeycomb on a Nook are the ones who are in love with the Android platform already. I want to see a more objective review.
 

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I don't think it's a wise idea because then people will start wondering how a jailbroken iPad with full filesystem access and almost zero reliance on iTunes will fare against Honeycomb in terms of functionality.

There is a reason all reviews done are of stock machines and not of something heavily customized by the user.
 

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I totally enjoy Anand's very thoughtfully put together reviews but I agree with PHG, Honeycomb ASOP needs to be released & a ROM put together for the Nook first. I'd also think with so many new tablets slated to released that it would be nice to wait till a full tablet roundup review could be conducted that would include Nook.
 
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KDOG

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Well it doesn't have to be an official review. It could be just an article exploring what the all the "hubbub" is about. Just more of an "Interest" piece....


EDIT: I wonder if Anand even has one....hmmmm....
 
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poofyhairguy

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I want to see a more objective review.

Exactly. I want the Nook Colors to get their day in the sun too, but they aren't ready. All of us who enjoy them now are using partially functional builds, something that completely takes it out of the running with an iPad (aka the opposite of polish).

With that said, progress is happening at a break neck speed- in the last month it went from the best was a kinda bland Froyo to where now we have a Gingerbread with GPU acceleration support (smooth pinch/zoom), Bluetooth, and full market support. All of this development was done in a way to translate directly to Honeycomb once the source is released.

So if Anandtech is gonna do it, might as well wait then review "The World's first sub-$300 Honeycomb Tablet?"
 

poofyhairguy

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I don't think we need to wait for Honeycomb.

My hope is we will see Honeycomb this week (with the Xoom Wifi release), so the difference in time between a complete CM7 build and a complete Honeycomb build is minimal.

If Google sits on ASOP HC too long, then yeah CM7 will be done.
 

Kanalua

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I'm liking my new NC, HC is great, but not everything is working, and CM7 is great, but it's annoying not having navigation buttons.
 

Pliablemoose

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I was going to say no, because the color nook is re purposed and does take advantage of B&N subsidizing the color nook's price through the sale of ebooks, but then I remembered the articles on how to OC your CPU from back in the day, and it's not that different I guess
 

KDOG

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Honeycomb this week? Really? That would be killer. I wonder how long it will take those xda guys to get it up and running on the nook. Honeycomb was designed for tablets so it should go faster right?


Sent from my NC CM7/28.
 

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I really wish the thing had another button or 2 on it, having said that, I am running CM7 and loving it a lot. Looking forward to Honeycomb, but honestly, I would be more than happy with Gingerbread in its current nookification (once the DSP stuff is done etc).
 

poofyhairguy

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Honeycomb this week? Really? That would be killer. I wonder how long it will take those xda guys to get it up and running on the nook. Honeycomb was designed for tablets so it should go faster right?

I hope for HC this week, and my hope is based on the timing of previous ASOP releases. With that said, it might be locked up.

The main advantage of Honeycomb is not the speed, but is that it doesn't assume any hardware buttons and it can run tablet apps.
 

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I've gone back to just used an autonootered stock rom. I was having too many issues with both CM7 and Nookie Froyo. Everything works rather well on the stock rom, so I'm just sticking with that until either CM7 works the kinks out or a good HC rom emerges.
 

OrByte

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I've gone back to just used an autonootered stock rom. I was having too many issues with both CM7 and Nookie Froyo. Everything works rather well on the stock rom, so I'm just sticking with that until either CM7 works the kinks out or a good HC rom emerges.

Im gonna have to agree with you there! Im running stock rom autorooterd and using the overclock kernel to 1.1 and its plenty of tablet for my needs

I used to be an apple fan but tthis device has definitely been a pleasant surprise! Way to go android
 

finbarqs

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my rooted nook is painfully slow... even when OC'd. But what do you expect? The nook color wasn't really a tablet to begin with... We just turned it that way
 

Munky

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When it's ready. Right now it's still undergoing development and hasn't reached its full potential.
 

MagickMan

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my rooted nook is painfully slow... even when OC'd. But what do you expect? The nook color wasn't really a tablet to begin with... We just turned it that way

Really? Can't say I've had performance issues with mine, it's been speedy with everything except maybe some Youtube videos and a few heavy Flash sites.
 

cheezy321

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Would be cool to see him to a comparison on the Nook vs. other tablets.

1 Yes vote from me.
 

poofyhairguy

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my rooted nook is painfully slow... even when OC'd.

I do think rooted Eclair is painfully slow. All that extra junk B&N added in drags down the OS. That is why I blew away the stock for Froyo within 24 hours of owning it. I don't want ebooks, I want the world's first affordable tablet.

With that said, I am 100&#37; spoiled by Gingerbread with its GPU GUI acceleration. In the newest builds now that composite is fixed the interface really flys. The pinch-zoom and scrolling as just as responsive as on my iPhone (in Gingerbread). It is so nice that I have given up dual booting Froyo, because even though video playback doesn't work the browsing improvement has me in CM7 all the time.

That is why the next month is crucial, as CM7 should be "finished" hopefully in that time frame. Then the only problem with the NC is the lack of hardware buttons, which Honeycomb will fix.

But what do you expect? The nook color wasn't really a tablet to begin with... We just turned it that way

You say that, but I do think the Nook Color is a great tablet because it has just enough hardware.

Its 800mhz CPU isn't speedy, but its enough to get through the interface. When overclocked to 1.1GHz its faster than the original Galaxy Tab or iPad. The 512 mb of RAM is the perfect minimal amount for tablet use, and the GPU is the exact minimum one needed to play most games at the resolution supported by the Nook Color. Where B&N really spent the cash was on the screen, and I easily think it has the best 7 inch tablet screen on the market. Finally we all get "free"' bluetooth that B&N never intended to be there. Put all that together, and it makes a great basic tablet.

The problem is that the community is stuck with the task of taking this just good enough hardware and optimizing the OS for it so that the hardware can be maximized. Real progress picked up when the early Honeycomb builds brought in Droid developers, and thanks to the ebay deal enough new blood has come around that hopefully soon a "finished" non-stock OS will be available.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Its 800mhz CPU isn't speedy, but its enough to get through the interface. When overclocked to 1.1GHz its faster than the original Galaxy Tab or iPad.

Hummingbird and A4 use a modified Cortex A8 cpu that's faster clock for clock than a standard version so they should still outperform the nook color even with a 100mhz disadvantage
 
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