Should we give this guy a chance? (new hire)

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AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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I started my an IT job at my college library at $11/hr and by the time I graduated I was being paid $17/hr.

I wouldn't have given your listing a second look at all.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Communicating on the internet is one thing, speaking for myself in an interview is another. I've improved significantly since I was a child, but I still have serious issues when interacting with others. Even with friends, in an unfamiliar and/or uncomfortable situation I can shut down.

Put me in a room with complete strangers asking me all manner of unconventional questions...at best I can't seem to make a good impression. For the questions I do understand I'll repeat the answers I have practiced like a machine, anything else and I get stuck. You ask me something I'm not prepared for and I might not even be able to complete the interview.

I've taken classes, practiced interviews with others, written reports on the proper methods for success...but it's still a struggle. These issues persist in the work environment as well, so it limits the jobs and positions I am fit for. When I'm competing for a high paying position, I don't compare well with the normal professionals.

That leaves the lower paying menial labor jobs, and even when I can get hired I seem to get taken advantage of. I have a very hard time speaking up for myself. I'm sure I could find another $10/hr job digging ditches or whatnot, but that pay level still doesn't move me out of poverty. I'm happier to be "retired" at the federal minimum wage (~$7.50/hr).

I could be better off in a lower cost of living area. I tell myself all the time I should move, but that's a far more daunting task than a job interview. Most of my family is here, but they are starting to move off. Perhaps when they all go I will too.

This may be better for a PM, but have you ever considered a combo of psychiatrist and counseling? Depending on how your "condition" works, it can very much be controlled or managed with a variety of treatment options. I suggest you at least entertain the thought. It can be a big step, but if it may help you have a better outlook, more confidence, and make it easier to reach higher, that should be worth it in my opinion. I did just that, and it is helping, some. It can be a slow road to finding the best combinations, but a start is a start and any progress leaves you better off than you were before.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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Communicating on the internet is one thing, speaking for myself in an interview is another. I've improved significantly since I was a child, but I still have serious issues when interacting with others. Even with friends, in an unfamiliar and/or uncomfortable situation I can shut down.

Put me in a room with complete strangers asking me all manner of unconventional questions...at best I can't seem to make a good impression. For the questions I do understand I'll repeat the answers I have practiced like a machine, anything else and I get stuck. You ask me something I'm not prepared for and I might not even be able to complete the interview.

I've taken classes, practiced interviews with others, written reports on the proper methods for success...but it's still a struggle. These issues persist in the work environment as well, so it limits the jobs and positions I am fit for. When I'm competing for a high paying position, I don't compare well with the normal professionals.

That leaves the lower paying menial labor jobs, and even when I can get hired I seem to get taken advantage of. I have a very hard time speaking up for myself. I'm sure I could find another $10/hr job digging ditches or whatnot, but that pay level still doesn't move me out of poverty. I'm happier to be "retired" at the federal minimum wage (~$7.50/hr).

I could be better off in a lower cost of living area. I tell myself all the time I should move, but that's a far more daunting task than a job interview. Most of my family is here, but they are starting to move off. Perhaps when they all go I will too.

If you're consistently well spoken while typing out your thoughts, maybe some sort of writing would be more rewarding for you? It might be harder to get started, but it could pay off at the end. Writing just about your life experiences and being open and honest like you are now is usually a good draw for people.
 

evident

Lifer
Apr 5, 2005
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this reminds me of a lowball craigslist offers of $5K I got when i was trying to sell a car worth around $15K. If i was the applicant I wouldn't even entertain them.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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this reminds me of a lowball craigslist offers of $5K I got when i was trying to sell a car worth around $15K. If i was the applicant I wouldn't even entertain them.

Have fun with those people. Tell them to meet you 100 miles away and dont show up.
 

amicold

Platinum Member
Feb 7, 2005
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Communicating on the internet is one thing, speaking for myself in an interview is another. I've improved significantly since I was a child, but I still have serious issues when interacting with others. Even with friends, in an unfamiliar and/or uncomfortable situation I can shut down.

Put me in a room with complete strangers asking me all manner of unconventional questions...at best I can't seem to make a good impression. For the questions I do understand I'll repeat the answers I have practiced like a machine, anything else and I get stuck. You ask me something I'm not prepared for and I might not even be able to complete the interview.

I've taken classes, practiced interviews with others, written reports on the proper methods for success...but it's still a struggle. These issues persist in the work environment as well, so it limits the jobs and positions I am fit for. When I'm competing for a high paying position, I don't compare well with the normal professionals.

That leaves the lower paying menial labor jobs, and even when I can get hired I seem to get taken advantage of. I have a very hard time speaking up for myself. I'm sure I could find another $10/hr job digging ditches or whatnot, but that pay level still doesn't move me out of poverty. I'm happier to be "retired" at the federal minimum wage (~$7.50/hr).

I could be better off in a lower cost of living area. I tell myself all the time I should move, but that's a far more daunting task than a job interview. Most of my family is here, but they are starting to move off. Perhaps when they all go I will too.

Your posts have made me incredibly sad, which is odd for me. That aside, I say with seriousness if you have a condition you can look into assistance. I live outside Buffalo and minimum wage here would still be a struggle for a dumpy city apartment. Let alone, Seattle? Sounds like you just have social issues? In that case be an engineer, you should see my classmates
 

OverVolt

Lifer
Aug 31, 2002
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ER, were you the youngest of several siblings or something?

Instead of always following, taking control of your life is very rewarding. It'll get easier and easier.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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Sad?
Sorry about that, I didn't intend to make anybody feel bad.

The pity party is for my own benefit, every now and then I just like to bitch and moan. I'm pretty good at complaining and feeling sorry for myself. Writing it out so I can see it is like a good slap in the face.

I'm just jealous, I know it's wrong...but that just seems to be human nature. I want what I don't have, but really I'm not so bad off. I live in a modern country, have a roof over my head, average enough calories a day to be overweight, heck I even have a PC to play around with.

I know there are tons of people far worse off, and even those who've had it tougher and made more of themselves. The truth is I'm just trying to take the leisurely path, while bitching about how long it takes. I'm afraid to take the hard climb. I could be out there right now, applying everyday to eventually get the one break I need. Instead I'm using my disability as an excuse to fart around and complain on the internet.

So I'll keep slapping myself, hopefully one day I'll get a clue.

Hey, at least you're honest
 

EliteRetard

Diamond Member
Mar 6, 2006
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LOL

You didn't really fall for that did you? Of course not...you know better.
 
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OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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the job only requires a high school diploma and two years experience. NO degree/certs/etc are required

i just hired 2 helpdesk people with the same qualification and we start at 16 with full benefits after 90 days. the senior HD people make 20+

there is no negotiation on pay. we advertise what the position pays and if you don't like it that's your problem. we pay a competitive fair wage for all of our positions. if you dont like it to bad we will just bring in the next person on the list.

you are low balling, you should be ashamed.

OP sounds like a your typical HR IT want-ad. they want a 4 year degree in computer science, with a major in Math, minor in physics, 20 certification 19 of them that nobody has ever heard of. 10 years experience and the starting pay is a $25,000 salary.
 
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slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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No, that is not 'how it works.' Companies worth working for generally offer a competitive wage.

There are generally two numbers in play: What you have requested, and what they are offering. If the latter is actually more, that's what you get. If the latter is less, you may try to negotiate up to what you were desiring, but probably will end up compromising.

Again it sounds like your company is a pile of shit. Additionally, it sounds like your interview process plays out like a battle of wits for complete fucking idiots.

Oh, and the fact that you are not even advertising the shit wage you intend to pay people makes you, specifically, a piece of shit. I hope one of your 'candidates' fucking decks you.

I vote this as thread of the year and this as post of the year.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Wants 2 years experience, pays $1 more than someone starting out at Taco Bell.

 

EliteRetard

Diamond Member
Mar 6, 2006
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In fact, you probably quoted or have a copy of the original saved somewhere.
 
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Dr. Zaus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2008
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I feel like I should mention that you can make $60k/yr delivering pizza in Seattle.
If you're willing to drive like crazy (not necessarily fast), and break many many laws.
Commercial license plate helps, you can park anywhere.
At least $20k is tax free too (cash tips).

Way more pizza delivery drivers die from being shot by bad-guys than cops do, cops don't even come in top 10.

But they are 'heroes' that should have the right to execute people they are afraid of...



http://www.pizzamarketplace.com/news/pizza-delivery-driver-fifth-of-10-most-dangerous-jobs/

A new study published by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) shows the job of pizza delivery driver is a dangerous one.

According to a CNN.com report, the study selected occupations that had the highest fatalities per 100,000 employees in that line of work.

Ranking fifth on the top-10 list was "driver-sales workers," which, according to the BLS, includes "pizza deliverers, vending machine fillers, and the like."

Fatalities in traffic accidents contributed heavily to national average of 38 per 100,000, but nearly 25 percent of drivers died in robberies and assaults."
 

EliteRetard

Diamond Member
Mar 6, 2006
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Which is why I waited so long to make these changes, I wanted you to see what was here.
 
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