Should we recall all governors whose states have a deficit?

[her209]

Clearly the governor is responsible for the budget...

 

[Bigdude]

No, and most states don't have a recall provision. California does, and they have a legal right to recall Gray Davis.

 

[daniel1113]

Don't like it? CHANGE THE LAW.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Bigdude
No, and most states don't have a recall provision. California does, and they have a legal right to recall Gray Davis.

Ouch! I agree.

This isn't a matter of should, but can. Is this being used as a way for the Republicans to get another election? You bet. Is it silly? Probably. Now for the clincher... Is it legal? Yepper. In CA it is. This is how democracy works in CA. It's different to some degree than in other states, but thats how it works. Of course, whoever gets elected can be recalled (I think) so I don't know how wise this is.

The direct answer to your post question is no, I dont think so, but this is a right of CA voters and they are exercising it.

 

[phillyTIM]

We have a deficit here in Pennsylvania, but that was there upon our new Governor's arrival this past January, so it's not his fault. It's the previous Governor's, who were spendy-Republicans, that got us in debt,,,the major one being Tom Ridge (who we see is now part of Bush's Regime). Thank God and good riddance to him.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: her209
Clearly the governor is responsible for the budget...

Most states have already worked out their budget problems.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Bigdude
No, and most states don't have a recall provision. California does, and they have a legal right to recall Gray Davis.

Davis pissed a lot of people off when he capitulated to the Energy Barons and signed contracts with them where the CA Consumer took it in the arse. He also didn't help himself either with a much publicize Contract with the Assholes from Oracle that was a sweetheart deal for them (Charging CA for software they didn't need)

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Most states have already worked out their budget problems.

By borrowing, cutting services, and raising taxes . . . in various combinations. Curiously, TX was left with a big budget hole by their previous governor . . . I hope he practiced better budget management at his new job.

 

[xochi]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Most states have already worked out their budget problems.

By borrowing, cutting services, and raising taxes . . . in various combinations. Curiously, TX was left with a big budget hole by their previous governor . . . I hope he practiced better budget management at his new job.

Please recall Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Its funny, the State Comptroller (R) is already taking swipes at him for the next election.

Even Republicans can find ways to hate perry.

 

[AdmiralTiger]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
We have a deficit here in Pennsylvania, but that was there upon our new Governor's arrival this past January, so it's not his fault. It's the previous Governor's, who were spendy-Republicans, that got us in debt,,,the major one being Tom Ridge (who we see is now part of Bush's Regime). Thank God and good riddance to him.

LOL - I didn't live in PA too long when Ridge was the governor of the state - so good riddance to him too! I'm a Philly native (rather the suburbs of the Northeast) and was living in the city from 86 to 91 (my childhood years, oh how much I miss it!) and from 99 to 2000 (during Ridge's tenure) - Right now we have our former mayor as a governor, and I think he's doing a good job as of late but I haven't been keeping track of the news though. Is John Street still the mayor of the city - he was the last time I was there.

I'm currently living in Arkansas but moving out at the end of the month to head back to Colorado - so that looks like I'll miss the Vet - I kinda grew up with it, and this might come as a surprise to some... I LOVED that stadium! I don't even care if anyone else says otherwise.

As for the California recall, I fully support it as I was living in CA late last year (ok ok, I move alot, so gimme a break there) it wasn't a pleasant experience at all - high electricity bills for one thing, and the horrid Antelope Valley climate. I'm a democrat myself, yet I don't like what Gray Davis is doing to the state, let alone the energy crisis the state had a few years ago in connection with Enron (no relation to sellenron (Celeron)) and the fact that he has a major decifit to deal with and has done virtually nothing to fix it. I say get rid of him!

 

[BOBDN]

Someone explain to me how Davis can be held accountable for deficits and energy companies fixing prices to screw consumers when the same people who demonize Davis lionize Bush - who is at the heart of the deficit and energy industry problems.

 

[Morbius]

Since most of the current "deficit" is due to the war on terror, I assume you think Bush is responsible for that?

Bush isn't responsible for an economy that was well on its way to recession when he came into office. People want to blame him for all the manufacturing jobs that are moving overseas, but it takes most companies 5 years or so to plan and execute those types of moves (believe me I know this well since our company is doing it) so they were actually planned during the Clinton years.

All I can say is, "Thank God Al Gore didn't win the election."

 

[HappyGamer2]

there is talk of recalling the Wisconsin gov. becuase he will not lower taxes and wants to raise them, the reason why is a deficit.

well he is new, he had nothing to do with creating the deficit, the tax rebate (re-election bribe) Rebulicans before him caused it

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Please recall Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Its funny, the State Comptroller (R) is already taking swipes at him for the next election.

Actually, the Ponzi scheme in TX was set by his predecessor.

Even Republicans can find ways to hate perry.

They hate him b/c he has nice hair that precludes him from wearing a hat . . . and his greatest sin is that he's not GWB. They miss the good old boy. I wish he had never left TX.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Most states have already worked out their budget problems.

By borrowing, cutting services, and raising taxes . . . in various combinations. Curiously, TX was left with a big budget hole by their previous governor . . . I hope he practiced better budget management at his new job.

There was no budget hole in 2001(written 1999), the last budget Bush would have had influence one.
More partisan rhetoric.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Please recall Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Its funny, the State Comptroller (R) is already taking swipes at him for the next election.

Actually, the Ponzi scheme in TX was set by his predecessor.

What ponzi scheme are you referring to?

 

[XZeroII]

Here is WI we have the crappiest governor ever. We had a 2-3 billion dollar deficit and he vowed to fix it w/o raising taxes. Recently, he lauded himself for keeping true to his word. How did he do it, you ask? He cut that 2-3 billion dollars in aid to all the counties here. So now, all the counties in WI have all sorts of deficits and will have to raise taxes to compensate. Our Gov. is a democrat and Republicans wanted to pass a bill so that counties could only increase taxes by 5% this year (max), but Davis (our governor) immediatly set into action to block this because it would foil his whole plan. How could counties pay for his shafting unless they increase taxes by 5%??? Some can't. What a crook.

 

[HappyGamer2]

what half the counties in WI needed to do is cut the police force in half, then stop putting everyone in prison/jail for every little thing.

XZeroII look whom caused the whole mess, the two boys before him. true he (doyle)sucks but everybody points the finger at the wrong place, they should point the finger at themselves for keep re-electing Tommy

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Morbius
Since most of the current "deficit" is due to the war on terror, I assume you think Bush is responsible for that?

Bush isn't responsible for an economy that was well on its way to recession when he came into office. People want to blame him for all the manufacturing jobs that are moving overseas, but it takes most companies 5 years or so to plan and execute those types of moves (believe me I know this well since our company is doing it) so they were actually planned during the Clinton years.

All I can say is, "Thank God Al Gore didn't win the election."

and OBVIOUSLY NOTHING happened at ALL before clinton.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: HappyGamer2
what half the counties in WI needed to do is cut the police force in half, then stop putting everyone in prison/jail for every little thing.

XZeroII look whom caused the whole mess, the two boys before him. true he (doyle)sucks but everybody points the finger at the wrong place, they should point the finger at themselves for keep re-electing Tommy

Yeah - Damn that Tommy for bringing actual Welfare reform to Wisconsin

CkG

 

[sillymofo]

we should recall the darn prezident cuz teh byeatch is teh cause of dis deficit, and the national depression. Well, we can't really recall da byeatch cuz I didn't vote for him,... hint .... hint.

 

[HappyGamer2]

it's about the only good thing he (tommy) did, but many claim he m ade a mess of that too

he was all for welfare, welfare for the rich that is.

 

[DealMonkey]

Check out the linked document which lists all states and whether they are experiencing budget shortfalls for FY2003. Cliff Notes:

Budget figures for 2003 come from the recent survey by the National Conference of State Legislatures, published in November 2002. They reflect the revenue and expenditure situation through the early months of FY 2003 ? which included budget reductions already made to meet shortfalls. This survey showed that half the states are facing gaps in their fiscal year (FY) 2003 budgets. Two-thirds of states reported that revenues are failing to meet projected levels. More than half the states report that expenditures are exceeding budgeted levels.

Better warm-up those recall petitions.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Check out the linked document which lists all states and whether they are experiencing budget shortfalls for FY2003. Cliff Notes:

Budget figures for 2003 come from the recent survey by the National Conference of State Legislatures, published in November 2002. They reflect the revenue and expenditure situation through the early months of FY 2003 ? which included budget reductions already made to meet shortfalls. This survey showed that half the states are facing gaps in their fiscal year (FY) 2003 budgets. Two-thirds of states reported that revenues are failing to meet projected levels. More than half the states report that expenditures are exceeding budgeted levels.

Better warm-up those recall petitions.

As i said early, most states have corrected their budget issues by now.

 

[DealMonkey]

I also see a lot of states with FY2004 deficits too. Someone mentioned Wi?

Wisconsin
FY 2003 Budget Deficit (millions of dollars) = 1,117.3
Deficit as Percent of State Budget = 5.0%
FY 2004 Budget Deficit (millions of dollars) = 1,300 to 2,868
Deficit as Percent of State Budget = 11.5% to 25.3%

The outgoing governor estimates the budget shortfall at $2.6 billion, the incoming governor at $12 billion. Already some college campuses have reduced enrollment almost 15% in anticipation of cuts.