Should women protect themselves from rape

[Victorian Gray]

Feminism is not about equality.

Feminist want to abolish the male dominated world. The problem is, women are not willing to do the kinds of work that keep our society running.

If men are not the dominate sex and women are not willing to step forward, what then?

It sucks that you apparently have issues with women.

Perhaps therapy might provide more for you. It has to be more beneficial than spending your days here badmouthing half the human race.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Equal rights without equal responsibility isn't equality.

Did your toaster teach you that?

 

[MrPickins]

The only level this forum has is subterranean.

:biggrin:

You may be right.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Equality!*


*Except for those skinny bitches.

I'm bringing booty back
Go ahead and tell them skinny bitches that
No I'm just playing. I know you think you're fat
But I'm here to tell ya
Every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top

 

[Victorian Gray]

What definition of rape are you using?

Seriously?

https://twitter.com/Ellysa_Maye/status/429417817083879424

 

[nehalem256]

You're repeating yourself.

Well given how important the point is its worth it

Yes. The answer is obvious: Diet, exercise.

In a male dominated industry that thinks it should aim its products mostly at men. Yes, that sounds like a marriage made in heaven.

So get a couple of female software developers start a company and develop a female oriented RPG. Since you are claiming women are the largest groups of gamers they should be hugely successful.

So why don't we see women doing this?

Reducio ad absurdum. If a gender is mostly represented in media purely as something nice to look at, you really don't think that's going to affect peoples' perceptions of that gender?

You think media is the reason men like looking at women?:hmm:

Which has what to do with computer games? And therefore women should therefore mostly wear armour that is totally impractical and its only purpose is to show off their figure?

You are saying that women won't be view as equals based on a female caricature is portrayed. I am saying that in the context of the game an accurate portrayal of a female warrior would also make it clear that men were superior in that context. Not sure how that improves things for women really.

And again

Sexism against women: Virtual female warriors wear skimpy clothes
Sexism against men: Real male warriors die horrific deaths

Which seems worse to you?

 

[nehalem256]

Seriously?

https://twitter.com/Ellysa_Maye/status/429417817083879424

I have no idea the point you trying to make.

 

[MrPickins]

You think media is the reason men like looking at women?:hmm:

You think the media has no effect on how men in our society view women and how they view themselves? :hmm:

 

[Phanuel]

You think the media has no effect on how men in our society view women and how they view themselves? :hmm:

I think the media amplifies minority examples making them seem larger than they are and marginalizes things that can not be sensationalized appropriately to generate viewers for advertising sales.

I think there are more muted, emasculated males out there now than there were back in 1950. But the fringe cases, like War Machine and his adult actress ex make this out to be a far bigger deal than it really is.

Go into a bar, or a nightclub sometime and look around. I guarantee you'll see a large population of men hanging out with other men and not even approaching women. A much smaller subset of those men are approaching the women and using methods you would find offensive in order to pick up these women. And if you note the demeanor of the women, they are turned on by aggressive acts by men, not subdued subservient behavior.

 

[Stewox]

No, they should surrender their guns, soul and innocence to our Lord Barrack Obama.

What has be confused, feminist are upset that a women should protect herself.

That's what I've been saying all along, they work for the their donors ... Warren Buffet, George Soros, Bill Gates ... in other word, the new world order.

You never see feminists complaining about Saudi women being banned from driving cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znY665hkx50

 

[BoberFett]

Stewox posted.

This thread is now officially over.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Have you compared health spending on men and women?

How many men give birth every year?

How many women give birth every year?

How many toasters give birth every year?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Well if men looking at a woman = oppression

Then I think we could "reasonably" define any woman turning a man down for a date as oppression :sneaky:

EDIT: As a sidenote perhaps that explains how a black man could shoot himself while hand cuffed

Why do you keep posting a picture of a troll as if it represents something of importance.

Or are you trying to make your toaster jealous you sly dog.

 

[Stewox]

Women should stand up for themselfs, joining these fancy "rights" groups doesn't help them at all.

Feminist groups at the core are not what you think they are, they blame all the men, they put all the men in the same bunch.

Remember "ban bossy" ... stuff like that is not just a coincidence.

That's an easy version of my opinion, confusion fixed, thread rescued.

 

[alzan]

Why do you keep posting a picture of a troll as if it represents something of importance.

Or are you trying to make your toaster jealous you sly dog.

He's making the toaster mad so that she'll get mad, they fight; and then have passionate "make-up sex" later.

 

[Orignal Earl]

The original

 

[nehalem256]

You think the media has no effect on how men in our society view women and how they view themselves? :hmm:

Okay lets think about this a minute

You have 2 choices for a video game set in say a magical medievalesque RPG times.

(1) Women are portrayed as obviously ridiculous caricatures.

(2) Women are portrayed reasonably historically accurately. Which essentially means almost exclusively as pregnant, post battle rape victims, or whores.

Which do you think will affect it more?

Or are you just upset that video games created by men can't be used as vehicles to push your feminist agenda?

 

[MongGrel]

No, they should surrender their guns, soul and innocence to our Lord Barrack Obama.

That's what I've been saying all along, they work for the their donors ... Warren Buffet, George Soros, Bill Gates ... in other word, the new world order.

You never see feminists complaining about Saudi women being banned from driving cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znY665hkx50

Stewox posted.

This thread is now officially over.

OMG blood in the water he he.

 

[nehalem256]

Why do you keep posting a picture of a troll as if it represents something of importance.

Or are you trying to make your toaster jealous you sly dog.

Because it sadly represents something that people actually believe

Don’t allow psychological rape or commit it yourself. Psychological rape consists of verbal harassment, whistles, kissing noises, heavy breathing, sly comments or stares. These are all assaults on any woman’s sense of well-being. The underlying intention is to intimidate the woman. They are power plays couched in the language of sex.

https://wp3.goshen.edu/studentlife/counseling/sexuality/men/

So yes. Stare rape is actually a "real" thing.

 

[MongGrel]

...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo

 

[MongGrel]

Women should stand up for themselfs, joining these fancy "rights" groups doesn't help them at all.

Feminist groups at the core are not what you think they are, they blame all the men, they put all the men in the same bunch.

Remember "ban bossy" ... stuff like that is not just a coincidence.

That's an easy version of my opinion, confusion fixed, thread rescued.

Okay lets think about this a minute

You have 2 choices for a video game set in say a magical medievalesque RPG times.

(1) Women are portrayed as obviously ridiculous caricatures.

(2) Women are portrayed reasonably historically accurately. Which essentially means almost exclusively as pregnant, post battle rape victims, or whores.

Which do you think will affect it more?

Or are you just upset that video games created by men can't be used as vehicles to push your feminist agenda?

Internet is for PORN!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo

 

[schmuckley]

3 pages,0 female posts
LOL

 

[MongGrel]

Okay lets think about this a minute

You have 2 choices for a video game set in say a magical medievalesque RPG times.

(1) Women are portrayed as obviously ridiculous caricatures.

(2) Women are portrayed reasonably historically accurately. Which essentially means almost exclusively as pregnant, post battle rape victims, or whores.

Which do you think will affect it more?

Or are you just upset that video games created by men can't be used as vehicles to push your feminist agenda?

You're way of thinking is pretty much most peoples common knowledge I'd say.

 

[Victorian Gray]

3 pages,0 female posts
LOL

Gee, I wonder why?

 

[Moonbeam]

Dear Exophase, I see that I am not getting anywhere with you on this so let me try a different approach. Instead of pointing to something I don't think you see, let's instead clear away the weeds that you seem intent on getting stuck in, no criticism intended.

E: Maybe it would help if you tried to substantiate this claim at all. It sounds like it is, at best, based on little more than a very limited sampling based on a few examples in your life.

M: It is based on a very well known feminist joke that, women have to be twice as good as men but that's easy. It is an old joke that I find rather funny.

E: Extraordinary claims, which yours very much qualifies as, require extraordinary evidence. If you can't actually see why the claim is extraordinary then you're at a deep disconnect vs what people actually belief. There isn't a widely held but secret acknowledgement that women are several times more capable than men (again, not merely twice as capable, easily twice as capable vs some men that are presumably actually trying hard).

M: It is a joke not a claim, a joke that I put out there to elicit a particular response, one of defensiveness on the part of gender inequality deniers.

E: But you don't seem to be willing to provide any evidence. That makes your claim seem less like an attempt at arguing a real point and more at an attack against all members of a gender.

M: My answer to that is that you don't seem to be seeing the issue I wanted to highlight, that attitudes and opinions are based on unexamined assumptions. I wanted you to see that you see saw my post from an assumption that it was sexist and that sexism is bad. I wanted you to deal with the issue without that baggage, the women may simply be superior to men and that's the way it is. You believe that such thinking would be bad but I believe that if that were true then it would be true and that thinking it is good or bad is based on assumptions you make that data is sexism when it simply may be data that re-resents fact.

E: I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. I'm going to go with google define here:

M: Explained above I hope.

E: Your statement absolutely reeks of prejudice on the basis of sex (well, probably more accurately, gender. Depending on what you meant. Maybe genderism?)

M: It was a joke put forth to elicit a reaction that I expected, to bring the unconscious assumptions to the fore, as I said above.

E: I was not however making a statement on the ethical value of your claim. I'm not really that interested.

M: Fine, but ethical values are important to me, not that I was setting forth any here



E: So is that what you're getting at? Let me see if I'm following this - you think that there's a systematic problem where women are taught that they're inferior to men, and you want to compensate for this by instead convincing them that they're vastly superior? Why do you think this would actually improve anything? Why do you think this wouldn't eventually create the same problem for men?

M: I don't think anything. But obviously the bias runs against women and they have the inferior roll in employment and other things, so maybe a little balance is in order, eh?

E: Besides that, there's only really a weak correlation between productivity (as defined by efficiency/hour, not hours worked) and earning power. We don't live in much of a meritocracy.

M: That is a rather comical statement since the latter leads to the former so any correlation properly belongs between those two.

The issue is difficult here, I suspect, because you think in a linear fashion and I do that as well as something else, I think. I am trying to show you a different way of seeing things.

The decline of the single earner family has to do with economic forces that go well beyond gender wars. You won't fix that with gender equality. If anything, the lessened expectations of men to be sole providers have helped improve equality. And these days a much higher percentage of men who are stay at home fathers is much higher than it was back when there were far more single income households (http://www.npr.org/2013/05/15/180300236/stay-at-home-dads-breadwinner-moms-and-making-it-all-work) so that's already how things are trending.[/QUOTE]