Shouldn't the Pentium 840EE be Going against a Dualcore FX

AMDrulZ

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Hi I just think that the Pentium 840EE should be going against a dual core FX series chip.
Wasn?t the Pentium 4 extreme edition designed form gaming in mind. And if there is a Pentium 840EE extreme edition dual core shouldn't it be going against a dual core FX.
Instead of the main stream X2 4800. Think about it.
 

stevty2889

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There is no dual core FX yet..and why bother when single core A64's are better for gaming anyway..plus there isn't exacly many games that are multithreaded so they can't even take advantage of dual cores, let alone the EE's dual core + HT. That chip is a waste of money for mostly everything.
 

Bar81

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There will not be a dual core FX anytime in the foreseeable future so it's just a pipedream.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: Bar81
There will not be a dual core FX anytime in the foreseeable future so it's just a pipedream.

Um, I'd think that once AMD shifts its focus to dualcore for their flagship line, they'll definately have an "FX" or other sort of "extreme" processor brand. So a few months from now they'd probably have one. Seeing as the the X2 4800+ has been generally accepted as the hands down winner vs. the 840EE, AMD doesn't really need an "EE" or "FX", however, that 4800+ does come at an EE or FX price...

But all in all I do agree. Some people look at FX and automatically assume games. Well X2s certainly don't slouch in games, certainly not compared to their PD competition. Then there's the fact that FXs offer assets favored by hardware enthusiasts included unlocked multipliers up and down. FX could easily stand for "FleXibility", although X2s and normal A64s certainly are very good chips when it comes to overclocking as it is.
 

Bar81

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Um, if you learn to read things that are on the FRONT PAGE you'll see that what I said is accurate.
 

Gamingphreek

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First coomar, you mean the FX-59.

Second of all AMD has said that they have no plans on releasing a Dual Core FX processor, as indicated by the roadmap.

-Kevin
 

Zebo

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It does'nt beat the 4200+ but in like 10/70 benchmarks how the hell's it gonna compete with 600Mhz faster and more cache chip?

PS: It's a stop gap for intel, that's it. To at least have a DC chip out with AMD until ceder mill comes. Which is supposed to hit higher clocks, have lower power, and be even more affordable and have some improvements..

No competition ATM.
 

AMDrulZ

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I know that there is not a dual core FX chip yet. I?m just saying shouldn't the dual core 840EE Extreme Edition chip have a dual core FX or extreme type chip from AMD to go against. We all know a dual core FX will Murder the 840EE but still it would fit right.
 

Capt Caveman

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A X2 4400+ kicks the crap out of it, let alone a X2 4800+.

Plus, the 3.73ghz Pentium 4 Extreme Edition outperforms the 840EE in games.
 

ryanv12

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Originally posted by: Zebo
It does'nt beat the 4200+ but in like 10/70 benchmarks how the hell's it gonna compete with 600Mhz faster and more cache chip?

Not to mention it's about double the price of the 4200+
 

AMDrulZ

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I just think that a dual core Extreme Edition vs. a dual core Extreme Edition from the two-chip maker?s would be cool. Well all know that the FX-55 or FX-57 are badass CPU's But a dual core FX series chip say FX-55 would be bad to the bone. And that it will eat any Intel dual core for lunch. But it would be even more expensive than the X2 4800 and FX-57 it would be going for about that of a Dual Core Opteron 200 series is going at right now. About 1300 to 1500 buck?s that is a little bit high in the price but it would be badass. And if i have the money i would buy one. And if the FX-59 is a single core CPU then the FX-61 will have to be dual core and it will most likely by dual FX-59's and the fact that the FX-57 is 2.8 ghz that means that the FX-59 will be 3.0 ghz And the FX-61 is 3.0 ghz, times 2. And it will be In AMD's new socket, which means an Integrated PCI Express controller. And the fact that an integrated memory controller is faster that one on a motherboard, then it maybe true for an Integrated PCI Express controller. So it might speed up SLI a little bit not sure but only time will tell!!!
 

AMDrulZ

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It said that they would remain single core for a while longer. But I think AMD will be forced by demand for dual core FX chip's it's only a matter of time.
 

clarkey01

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I believe that I read that FX will always be a single core.

It'll go dual core one day. Be nice to see the headroom on a 65nm version of a san diago core, 3.4 Ghz would be nice. 90nm will see 3 ghz out for sure. The FX 59 will be october I reckon. A year on from the FX 55 and about 6 months from the 57'.
 

AMDrulZ

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yes 65nm FX's will rock i just hope that they will be dual core imagin how a dual core FX will over clock.
 

Lithan

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EE doesnt mean for gaming anymore. Now it just means "Look how much we can charge for this chip and get suckers to buy it!"
 

AMDrulZ

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That may be true but to most die hard intel fan's EE mean's it's a gaming chip. And it mean's it's a gaming chip according to intel.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Intel Pentium D 840 (3.2Ghz, 2MB cache, 800Mhz FSB no HT) $550

Intel Pentium D 840EE (3.2Ghz 2MB cache 800Mhz FSB HT) $1,100

WTF?!
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Intel Pentium D 840 (3.2Ghz, 2MB cache, 800Mhz FSB no HT) $550

Intel Pentium D 840EE (3.2Ghz 2MB cache 800Mhz FSB HT) $1,100

WTF?! ;confused:

Yea you get to pay 500 dollars more just to have hyperthreading enabled on the 840EE
 

Chef Brian

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Intel should reeealllllyy scrap netburst and bring the enhancements they made to the Dothan core to the desktop. A really nice pipe dream - a 14 stage pipelined dual core processor with the thermal properties of the pentium-m, an up-to-date bus architecture and an on-die memory controller - the ultimate processor <3
 

AMDrulZ

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It may look go sound good but Intel will f*ck it up some how. And where they f*ck it up AMD will make a chip that puts it to shame in that area. That is just how AMD operates while I am glad Intel has an architecture that is better than net burst. Where the, Pentium-M stand's now it need's a lot of work to truly show what in can do and what it's made of and the K8 and the Net burst beat's it in any thing beside a couple of program's and gaming. But buy the time Intel get it in the desktop AMD will have the K9 or K10 which ever name they decide to name it to go against. And at the rate AMD i moving like i said in another thread in a few years all a motherboard will be is an expansion board for peripheral?s
 

Aries64

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
First coomar, you mean the FX-59.

Second of all AMD has said that they have no plans on releasing a Dual Core FX processor, as indicated by the roadmap.

-Kevin
Actually, Kevin, while a Dual Core FX chip is not on the AMD Roadmap yet AMD has stated that they will offer DC FX chips "when there is demand". I'll do a web search and see if I can dig up the quote from AMD. Saw it not too long ago. This IS NOT the piece I am looking for, but this press release alludes to the idea that there will be no DC FX for another couple of years:

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Weblets/0,,7832_8366_7595~99661,00.html

Howver, the quote I read from AMD gave me a strong suspicion that AMD would announce a plans for a DC FX chip much sooner than that. We'll see...

 
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