Shoveling Etiquette

[BassBomb]

i do entire width of the path because its the law

i would do the entire width regardless

 

[sdifox]

You can sure see all the morons from snowless states in this thread.

It's normal practice a home owner is required to shovel the sidewalk in front of his property. I've never heard of anything different anywhere in Canada.

Do you know the costs of snow clearing? It's extremely expensive. Your taxes would have to go way up to cover all the sidewalks too.

We get our sidewalk plowed. Carried over from older pre-amalgated Toronto days.

I don't wait for them to come through though. I have a snowblower and I plow the whole sidewalk on my block after I am done with my driveway.

This is only when it's bad of course.

 

[hclarkjr]

I'm hopefully done shoveling for a while. Not sure what the total snowfall was, but it was a lot and I am sore.

Does anyone else only shovel their sidewalk one shovel-width? The long side of our lot is along a main road, so the plows did a nice job of piling everything up onto the sidewalk. Today I just said screw it and shoveled it out, but only one shovel width - 22 inches.

I figure, the city still hasn't cleared the sidewalks on this road that are adjacent to the school, park, or bridge. So at least I'm better than that!

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Issued by The National Weather Service
Pittsburgh, PA
3:04 pm EST, Sun., Feb. 7, 2010

... WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH... WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

A STRONG STORM SYSTEM MOVING INTO THE OHIO VALLEY TUESDAY WILL BRING SNOW AND POSSIBLE MIXED PRECIPITATION TUESDAY MORNING INTO WEDNESDAY. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 INCHES OR GREATER ARE POSSIBLE.

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW... SLEET... OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

 

[BassBomb]

We get our sidewalk plowed. Carried over from older pre-amalgated Toronto days.

I don't wait for them to come through though. I have a snowblower and I plow the whole sidewalk on my block after I am done with my driveway.

This is only when it's bad of course.

oakville will mini plow the paths here too, but by the time they do you're already asking for a fine :S

people are snitchy around here too

 

[sdifox]

oakville will mini plow the paths here too, but by the time they do you're already asking for a fine :S

people are snitchy around here too

No, we are supposed to get the sidewalk plowed. And the little piece of driveway beyond the sidewalk too when the snow plow come through :biggrin:

 

[Hacp]

Great, so you go on vacation a few months, it snows, and then get hit with a big fine? Government ftl.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Great, so you go on vacation a few months, it snows, and then get hit with a big fine? Government ftl.

Called common courtesy. If you're going away, then hire someone to shovel it. In the city, you expect people to walk in the streets b/c someone asshat was too lazy to shovel their sidewalk? Of course a troll like yourself, will say yes.

I believe in my city you need to clear a 30 inch wide path.

 

[KK]

Reason #2118 not to live in a city.

 

[Alone]

Called common courtesy. If you're going away, then hire someone to shovel it. In the city, you expect people to walk in the streets b/c someone asshat was too lazy to shovel their sidewalk? Of course a troll like yourself, will say yes.

I believe in my city you need to clear a 30 inch wide path.

So you have to pay out of your own pocket to maintain someone else's property when you're on vacation, or you'll be fined?

Holy fuck.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Reason #2118 not to live in a city.

It's required in most towns too.

 

[Capt Caveman]

So you have to pay out of your own pocket to maintain someone else's property when you're on vacation, or you'll be fined?

Holy fuck.

You'd rather pay higher property taxes for the city/town to shovel the sidewalk?

 

[Hacp]

You'd rather pay higher property taxes for the city/town to shovel the sidewalk?

Lets say you're in a months long coma. It snows a few times; boom you're hit with a few fines for being in a coma. Government ftl.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Lets say you're in a months long coma. It snows a few times; boom you're hit with a few fines for being in a coma. Government ftl.

How would that be different about not paying any of your bills? Don't pay your mortgage and they'd lose it to foreclosure, lose utilities, etc.... And you've probably never heard of the ability to appeal a fine have you?

Stop trolling, you're getting tiresome...

 

[KK]

It's required in most towns too.

Town, city, who gives a fuck, they both suck dick.

 

[Hacp]

How would that be different about not paying any of your bills? And you've probably never heard of the ability to appeal a fine have you?

Stop trolling, you're getting tiresome...

There is a difference. You're paying for a service with phone/electricity. With the sidewalk you're being fined so some annoying tourist won't get her high heels wet.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Town, city, who gives a fuck, they both suck dick.

You probably cry too when people don't shovel their sidewalks forcing everyone(elderly, baby strollers, kids walking to school, etc) onto the street and their in your way.

 

[Capt Caveman]

There is a difference. You're paying for a service with phone/electricity. With the sidewalk you're being fined so some annoying tourist won't get her high heels wet.

Annoying tourist? Like elderly, kids walking to school, baby strollers, etc... Like KK, you'd cry if people were forced into the street and you had to slow down to avoid them.

 

[KK]

You probably cry too when people don't shovel their sidewalks forcing everyone(elderly, baby strollers, kids walking to school, etc) onto the street and their in your way.

Yeah, that happens alot in GA.

 

[Red Squirrel]

You'd rather pay higher property taxes for the city/town to shovel the sidewalk?

It's not really a question of if you rather. Taxes will go up anyways, they always do. :biggrin: So I rather them be able to justify it with some cause that makes sense.

I still find it silly that some cities require to shovel the sidewalk in front of the house. I'm guessing that's a US thing, I've never heard of this in Canada. The city should buy everyone a bobcat. Apparently if you live in their city you are required to do public works tasks, so they better give the tools for it. That also stops anyone from going on vacation in winter.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yeah, that happens alot in GA.[/QUOTE

Then why even post in a thread when you have no clue.

It's not really a question of if you rather. Taxes will go up anyways, they always do. :biggrin: So I rather them be able to justify it with some cause that makes sense.

I still find it silly that some cities require to shovel the sidewalk in front of the house. I'm guessing that's a US thing, I've never heard of this in Canada. The city should buy everyone a bobcat. Apparently if you live in their city you are required to do public works tasks, so they better give the tools for it. That also stops anyone from going on vacation in winter.

Another naive post from you. So, if you expect the city to shovel the sidewalk for you, do you expect the city to hire more people to do this in timely fashion? Most cities budget $ millions just for street plowing, let's double/triple that now.

Fortunately, most property owners would rather shovel their sidewalks then deal with higher taxes.

 

[sjwaste]

I should mention I live in a city with services that I'd put up against any other in the US and only 0.86% on my property tax bill. Yeah, I'll go ahead and shovel my own sidewalk for taxes that low. That's a pretty good rate considering the strength of our schools, stable property values, road conditions, access to the metro/proximity to DC. I lived in Jersey, I know all about high tax bills with comparatively little to show for it.

I'd prefer not to socialize every little thing and pay a tax bill that is commensurate. Our main roads were being plowed 24 hrs a day throughout the storm, they hit our residential streets right after the snow stopped. Fair bargain.

Canada's a whole other story. Honestly, what is your effective tax rate? For that, they should shovel your sidewalks.

 

[KK]

Yeah, that happens alot in GA.

Then why even post in a thread when you have no clue.

What fucking knowledge does one have to have to know that citys will fine your ass if you don't shovel the citys sidewalk in front of your house. Thus reason #2118.

 

[TheRickRoller]

Canada's a whole other story. Honestly, what is your effective tax rate? For that, they should shovel your sidewalks.

Hey, at one point they even called in the army, 'cuz they weren't doing anything, to shovel the snow. Now thats service my friend.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/1999/01/14/snow990114.html

 

[sdifox]

Hey, at one point they even called in the army, 'cuz they weren't doing anything, to shovel the snow. Now thats service my friend.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/1999/01/14/snow990114.html

There is only so much snow renoval capacity you contract for. And when the snow is bigger than that, and you want to get out of the snow in any sort of timely manner, you get help. In that particular case, the Army.

Mel Lastman will never live that one down.

 

[TheRickRoller]

Mel Lastman will never live that one down.

Who's gona forget that? Noooooo-body!:awe: