I never said the Republicans have a plan. That doesn't mean we should just accept amnesty without a commitment to comprehensive immigration reform.Go for it, crush that can. Instead, Cons and prez are trying to conjure up some plan to fund the wall, or whatever this minutes "plan" is.
That's depersonalization, right? It's not about people but just some can...
That Trump will immediately renege on the moment one of his many readily available scumbags opens their mouths.
I never said the Republicans have a plan. That doesn't mean we should just accept amnesty without a commitment to comprehensive immigration reform.
As for the Dreamers, the majority reside in California and New York, and are predominantly from Mexico. They are the victims of labor exploitation.
What program?How are DACA participants contributing under the program?
Yep, Trump should stand up to those hostage-takers in Congress. It turns out they are the same people as last time: the Republicans. No Dem votes are needed to pass a CR. The Republicans are simply unable or unwilling to govern.Agreed but this has come down to an issue of tying a sensitive vote like this to either a lift in debt ceiling or spending bills. GOP was widely criticized the last times for attempting to "hold the debt ceiling vote hostage" by demanding budget cuts or "ending Obamacare" as part of the deal. Trump should simply replay video of Obama saying "I won't negotiate under threat" from the last time the same situation happened but on the other side:
DACA....as it's made up of dreamers, is a pawn in play, and is a step away from labor exploitation.What program?
Cons control it all, now want Dems to jump aboard the leaky boatYep, Trump should stand up to those hostage-takers in Congress. It turns out they are the same people as last time: the Republicans. No Dem votes are needed to pass a CR. The Republicans are simply unable or unwilling to govern.
Two contradictory concepts. You don't want blame for opposing the CR. But you want to make a stand on government shutdown.
Dreamers are the sons and daughters of the wave of exploited labor that came over in the late 90s. They are very much pawns. I don't believe its practical to deport them. I also don't think its equitable to grant them amnesty. The sob stories of them all being valedictorians and rocket scientists are as laughable as those who frame them as criminals.DACA....as it's made up of dreamers, is a pawn in play, and is a step away from labor exploitation.
Their deportation will not be humane. The best deal maker is gonna get everyone in a room and make this happen.Dreamers are the sons and daughters of the wave of exploited labor that came over in the late 90s. They are very much pawns. I don't believe its practical to deport them. I also don't think its equitable to grant them amnesty. The sob stories of them all being valedictorians and rocket scientists are as laughable as those who frame them as criminals.
They're here, we can't change that, and we can't humanely deport them, but their existence has exactly 0% relevance to funding the government.
They aren't the ones blocking the funding.
I never said the Republicans have a plan. That doesn't mean we should just accept amnesty without a commitment to comprehensive immigration reform.
As for the Dreamers, the majority reside in California and New York, and are predominantly from Mexico. They are the victims of labor exploitation.
I want DACA to get fixed, but I don't see how this isn't hostage taking by Dems.
I wonder what motivated them to leave in the first placeWell, if they preferred deportation to "exploitation" they would have left the country.
I want DACA to get fixed, but I don't see how this isn't hostage taking by Dems.
I agree that Republicans can do whatever they want, so it is only partially hostage taking. But if the only reason Dems won't vote for it is due to DACA, I don't see how it is different than the GOP refusing to fund the government over ACA.Bullshit. The GOP simply doesn't have their house in order. They can impose any solution they want.
Dreamers are the sons and daughters of the wave of exploited labor that came over in the late 90s. They are very much pawns. I don't believe its practical to deport them. I also don't think its equitable to grant them amnesty. The sob stories of them all being valedictorians and rocket scientists are as laughable as those who frame them as criminals.
They're here, we can't change that, and we can't humanely deport them, but their existence has exactly 0% relevance to funding the government.
Simply put, no.To be a fly in Trump's ear...I kinda wonder how things would go if people start spinning conspiracy theories about the Republican establishment sabotaging things so that Trump gets blamed for them so they can oust him. For would-be despots, paranoia of trusting your own subordinates seems to be the catalyst for destroying independent government operations. Is our government strong enough to withstand such a thing as it was designed?
I'm not understanding the mental acrobats required to believe any thing else. Is it ONLY because they don't know how to blame their own party?The Republicans control the presidency and both houses of congress. The Republicans are blocking themselves.
I agree that Republicans can do whatever they want, so it is only partially hostage taking. But if the only reason Dems won't vote for it is due to DACA, I don't see how it is different than the GOP refusing to fund the government over ACA.
Show me where DACA beneficiaries have to go through the same process and queue as other immigrants.