Sick from overtraining?

[Syringer]

So normally I would go to the gym about 2-3 times a week and put in a good 30-35 minutes of pretty intensive workouts--then last week I started incorporating creatine into my workouts, which allowed me to break through barriers like I've never done before, and the workouts felt so good that last week I went 4 times and did a session at home.

However right now my body is aching really badly all over, I feel super tired, and I want to puke up everything I eat..

It maybe unrelated to each other, but it seems like they're related--any tips on getting over it, besides resting? Any recommended medicines?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

You overtrained - maybe even came down with a little bit of some illness. Take a week off. Pace yourself in the future. Creatine isn't magic and doesn't give you super abilities. You will experience an increase in perhaps getting that last rep up or something, but what you were feeling I would probably attribute to a placebo effect.

 

[Syringer]

Uh no, puking and lying here on my deathbed has NOTHING to do with any placebo effect.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Uh no, puking and lying here on my deathbed has NOTHING to do with any placebo effect.

Creatine is naturally produced in your body and you can't overdose on it (besides just overloading your kidneys).The puking and lying there has something to do with you being a dumbass and overtraining. Look up central nervous system fatigue.

On top of that, what the hell are you talking about? I said the placebo effect was involved with your extra "motivation" and "new found energy." Creatine isn't a drug. It's not a dream supplement. It doesn't do all the things you said. THAT'S the placebo effect.

The other symptoms - those have to do with you being an idiot and severely overdoing it. Please, continue being snappy with me. 'Cause I have no idea what I'm talking about having experienced CNS fatigue myself.

 

[brikis98]

One of the main symptoms of overtraining is the weakening of your immune system. That is, the overtraining itself doesn't make you sick, but it might make you more vulnerable to diseases. It's possible that the sickness is a total coincidence, or it could be that you caught a bug because you were in a weakened state. If you think you are overtraining, the immediate thing to do is rest. Stop exercising for a while and let your body recover. Rest, sleep and a good diet are your best friends when your CNS is trying to recover. Not a whole lot else will help. Also, you should obviously take whatever normal actions you need to get over the sickness (see a doctor, get rest, etc).

In the future, to prevent overtraining, there are a number of things you can do, such as:

* Reduce the volume/intensity: the number of exercises, sets, reps or weight used.
* Reduce the duration: limit workouts to 30 or 60 minutes.
* Reduce the frequency: don't lift heavy on consecutive days and make sure you have plenty of rest built in. Consider taking a few days or a week off from time to time.
* Sleep more.
* Make sure to eat a sufficient diet, which may mean getting more calories, protein, vitamins, essential fatty acids, etc.
* Always make changes to your workout program gradually to give your body time to adapt.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Uh no, puking and lying here on my deathbed has NOTHING to do with any placebo effect.

Perhaps you swallowed a spider.

 

[Snakexor]

you are probably just ridiculously dehydrated......back when i took creatine, if i took too much i would get sick and want to puke as if my body wanted to get rid of the excess creatine. Drink some Gatorade or water, as in like 32oz or so. and see how you feel in about a half an hour.

 

[TallBill]

Sounds like you're just sick or dehydrated. I hardly doubt that you've "overtrained".

 

[bossman34]

I don't know guys...I'm not sure I would say it is overtraining, especially only after one week. Sickness due to overtraining is a symptom of severe overtraining over a period of time. While it isn't exactly hard to overtrain, especially if not eating right or not getting enough sleep, I think it takes more than one week of tough workouts.

Actually, excessive training on a short-term basis is often called "overreaching" and is often used in strength and conditioning programs for strength and power gains. If overreaching continues for too long without any rest periods, overreaching can become overtraining.

I'm guessing you just got a bug. I felt the same way a couple weeks ago and I know it wasn't from overtraining because I have been slacking!!

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: bossman34
I don't know guys...I'm not sure I would say it is overtraining, especially only after one week. Sickness due to overtraining is a symptom of severe overtraining over a period of time. While it isn't exactly hard to overtrain, especially if not eating right or not getting enough sleep, I think it takes more than one week of tough workouts.

Actually, excessive training on a short-term basis is often called "overreaching" and is often used in strength and conditioning programs for strength and power gains. If overreaching continues for too long without any rest periods, overreaching can become overtraining.

I'm guessing you just got a bug. I felt the same way a couple weeks ago and I know it wasn't from overtraining because I have been slacking!!

I must've misread. I thought he said he did this for several weeks. I agree though that it probably is not overtraining if he just did it for one week unless his nervous system is really bad at coping. However, one week of intense training can suppress your immune system like brikis said, which could lead to an illness getting in.

 

[SergeC]

It's February. You probably have the flu.

 

[GenHoth]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: Syringer
Uh no, puking and lying here on my deathbed has NOTHING to do with any placebo effect.

Perhaps you swallowed a spider.

:laugh:

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: bossman34
I don't know guys...I'm not sure I would say it is overtraining, especially only after one week. Sickness due to overtraining is a symptom of severe overtraining over a period of time. While it isn't exactly hard to overtrain, especially if not eating right or not getting enough sleep, I think it takes more than one week of tough workouts.

Actually, excessive training on a short-term basis is often called "overreaching" and is often used in strength and conditioning programs for strength and power gains. If overreaching continues for too long without any rest periods, overreaching can become overtraining.

I'm guessing you just got a bug. I felt the same way a couple weeks ago and I know it wasn't from overtraining because I have been slacking!!

I must've misread. I thought he said he did this for several weeks. I agree though that it probably is not overtraining if he just did it for one week unless his nervous system is really bad at coping. However, one week of intense training can suppress your immune system like brikis said, which could lead to an illness getting in.

5 workouts at 30-35 minutes in length is far from overtraining, unless he's deadlifting every day or something.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: bossman34
I don't know guys...I'm not sure I would say it is overtraining, especially only after one week. Sickness due to overtraining is a symptom of severe overtraining over a period of time. While it isn't exactly hard to overtrain, especially if not eating right or not getting enough sleep, I think it takes more than one week of tough workouts.

Actually, excessive training on a short-term basis is often called "overreaching" and is often used in strength and conditioning programs for strength and power gains. If overreaching continues for too long without any rest periods, overreaching can become overtraining.

I'm guessing you just got a bug. I felt the same way a couple weeks ago and I know it wasn't from overtraining because I have been slacking!!

I must've misread. I thought he said he did this for several weeks. I agree though that it probably is not overtraining if he just did it for one week unless his nervous system is really bad at coping. However, one week of intense training can suppress your immune system like brikis said, which could lead to an illness getting in.

5 workouts at 30-35 minutes in length is far from overtraining, unless he's deadlifting every day or something.

Right. I thought he was doing this for several weeks. I know I could force myself to overtrain in a few weeks if I tried. I know some people have different nervous systems and varying adaptabilities to stressing them; but I hardly think this has anything to do with the creatine and it probably has little to do with the exercise.

EDIT: Speaking of which... I wish I could deadlift every day. That would be amazing. Haha.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: bossman34
I don't know guys...I'm not sure I would say it is overtraining, especially only after one week. Sickness due to overtraining is a symptom of severe overtraining over a period of time. While it isn't exactly hard to overtrain, especially if not eating right or not getting enough sleep, I think it takes more than one week of tough workouts.

Actually, excessive training on a short-term basis is often called "overreaching" and is often used in strength and conditioning programs for strength and power gains. If overreaching continues for too long without any rest periods, overreaching can become overtraining.

I'm guessing you just got a bug. I felt the same way a couple weeks ago and I know it wasn't from overtraining because I have been slacking!!

I must've misread. I thought he said he did this for several weeks. I agree though that it probably is not overtraining if he just did it for one week unless his nervous system is really bad at coping. However, one week of intense training can suppress your immune system like brikis said, which could lead to an illness getting in.

5 workouts at 30-35 minutes in length is far from overtraining, unless he's deadlifting every day or something.

That wouldn't be overreaching either. There's a great article on overreaching in this month's Runner's World btw.

 

[Whisper]

I'm going to go with most of the other posters in saying that this is likely a "bug" you've recently picked up. Lord knows, people are getting sick left and right over here. The change in weather does not bode well for most people's immune systems, especially if it's coupled with a recent and significant increase in physical activity...which might be causing you to get less sleep and/or eat differently.

Have you checked whether or not you're running a fever? If so, definitely take at LEAST a few days off to let it go down. I remember once, maybe four or five years ago, I came down with the flu for about a week. My temp had finally decreased to a fairly normal level, body aches and nausea were gone, and appetite was back, so I figured I could work out again. I was wrong. One hour-long workout completed, and the next day, I was back up to 102 and hating my life. Lasted another week and a half before it finally went away completely.

 

[TecHNooB]

I love that ache-all-over feeling! As for sickness? Did you just finish working out? If not, drink more water.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: TallBill
5 workouts at 30-35 minutes in length is far from overtraining, unless he's deadlifting every day or something.

However, it's all relative to the person training, what is overtraining for you might be death for Syringer.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: TallBill
5 workouts at 30-35 minutes in length is far from overtraining, unless he's deadlifting every day or something.

However, it's all relative to the person training, what is overtraining for you might be death for Syringer.

A healthy nervous system in all likelihood would not respond to this type of activity with CNS fatigue, especially in such a short period of time. There are SOME baselines for healthy individuals.