Sick of these damn rumors

[Soccerman]

I hate the Inquirer, they're a bunch of idiots. nobody ever seems to remember all of the wrong things they've predicted, because they predict nearly everything so they obviously have to get something right.

anywho, I've avoided posting in these damn video card rumor threads just because they come from the Inquirer, and I disagree with their info anyway.

first of all, why would ATi break from their naming scheme?? it doesn't make any sense to name the NV250 a Radeon 9000, becuase it's a freakin DirectX 8 part. IMHO it should and will still be in the 8xxx series. only one thing makes me shaky on this and that's the pictures of supposed RV250s (they could be R300s for all I know) with a box behind it saying Radeon 9000 or whatever.. either those are made up to show that they'll be selling a R300 based board, or ATi has totally screwed up it's naming scheme even more (I got really confused with the 7xxx series after the 7500 was released).

and as for naming the R300 a Radeon 9700, I find that hard to believe because that only leaves room for 9800 and 9900 which if ATi is going to be following any pattern by releasing 2 high end cards will both be taken up, meaning the R300 won't be able to be re-released without it being a lower number. that doesn't follow logic IMHO.

as for the RV250 benches we have seen, I'm sortof surprised at them (if they're true) but it seems quite possible that they are true becuase no-one says the RV250 has to be faster than the R200 (though I'd obviously like it to be faster). this is yet another reason why I just can't see the RV250 being called Radeon 9000.

as for which will be faster, to me it is pretty obvious.. if nVidia is right about not being able to produce this on .15 micron and ATi is ready to go (and confident their part will not be overheating or too power hungry) then it seems to me that nVidia's chip will at least have more transistors, and most likely because of that, be at least more flexible for programmers, and possibly faster (due to larger caches, which it seems obvious to me are the reason the NV25 is top of the hill and not the Radeon 8500 or GF3 Ti500).

anywho those are my many cents on this bloody mess, and I wish people wouldn't link to the Inquirer OR Rage3D for this kind of news because they're either biased, or not terribly reliable for info at all.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Soccerman
I hate the Inquirer, they're a bunch of idiots. nobody ever seems to remember all of the wrong things they've predicted, because they predict nearly everything so they obviously have to get something right.

Bingo! Everytime I say that theinquirer (and theregister, and xbitlabs, and...) doesn't know their @ss from a hole in the ground, someone always comes back with "Well, they were right about xxxx"

Well no crap... Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

 

[Rand]

I pretty much agree with everything you just said, especially the part about the naming scheme.

I can't understand why ATi would break from their 7XXX=DX7, 8XXX=DX8. That makes no sense at all IMHO.
Nonetheless it seems as though it almost certainly will happen, I've been getting the usual array of press releases from various vendors about their upcoming RV250 boards and they all say Radeon 9000.

Most recently UniTech with their Apollo brands have begun sending out review samples of their Optimus 9000LE/Optimus 9000Pro models, which are based on the RV250 core and clocked at 250/200 and 275/275 respectively.

At this point I'm thinking ATi's thrown their naming scheme all to hell.
It's soon to be as worthless as nVidia's wherein we've got GF1's beating out GF2's, GF3's beating out GF4's. GF4's with the feature set of a GF2.
The average consumer may as well guess how any given card performs or the relative feature sets because the naming is completely misleading.


The performance of the RV250 in early benchmarks has been puzzling is it's supposed to be little more then a higher clocked R200 with a few more integrated components, given that the performance is unusually low.

Some have bandied around the hypothesis that the RV250 has neutered the HyperZ capabilities in current drivers.
ATi has done similar things in the past by disabling the T&L capabilities of the Radeon VE/7000 upon release, and then re-enabling them in later drivers. The classic Radeon LE has HyperZ disabled originally, and it's also been enabled through updated drivers.

 

[Auric]

Well no crap... Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

That's funny. A more common saying is: A broken clock is right twice a day.

I'm a thinking there are parallels to Nostradamus too

 

[AmdInside]

I've been saying these things for a long time. The Inquirer sucks. I can understand why some people like to visit that website. When there is no news reported, some people will believe anything. However, if most people were smart, they should avoid The Inquirer. Quoting the Inquirer makes you look like an idiot.

 

[TNTrulez]

Originally posted by: Auric

Well no crap... Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.

That's funny. A more common saying is: A broken clock is right twice a day.

I'm a thinking there are parallels to Nostradamus too

You do know that Nostradamus is the real thing right?

 

[Sunner]

Gotta agree on the Inquirer.

They're sorta like The Register, cept The Reg is actually right quite often, and isn't as much of a tabloid in general.
And The reg often makes damn fin readon as well