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spacelord

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I already have Civ IV Complete..but haven't had much chance to play it.. should I just stick with that, or is Civ V a worthy game to play instead of IV?
 

Lil Frier

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I really wish that they had either:

A. Not had BNW in this.
B. Made BNW a second-week thing.

The average price is just too high. I want to try these games, but not for $10, silly as that complaint sounds (and is, really). If I could put my Steam Wallet money (I have $20 to blow) towards this, I'd probably do it, but I have too many games not getting played to just throw $10 at a few more right now.
 

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Lifer
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I really wish that they had either:

A. Not had BNW in this.
B. Made BNW a second-week thing.

The average price is just too high. I want to try these games, but not for $10, silly as that complaint sounds (and is, really). If I could put my Steam Wallet money (I have $20 to blow) towards this, I'd probably do it, but I have too many games not getting played to just throw $10 at a few more right now.

I felt the same way. I think they are doing this as an experiment at raising the average of the 'pay what you want' market.
 

Lil Frier

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It's possible, but I think it will hurt the sales TOTALS (not necessarily income) long-term. The one Humble Bundle I got, I got it because there were one or two games I wanted. I'm never going to buy them if they add something I don't want as a $15 add-on to jack up the price. It just turns me away.
 

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Lifer
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It's possible, but I think it will hurt the sales TOTALS (not necessarily income) long-term. The one Humble Bundle I got, I got it because there were one or two games I wanted. I'm never going to buy them if they add something I don't want as a $15 add-on to jack up the price. It just turns me away.

Well, if they can sell fewer bundles and make as much or more money then that is a win for Humble Bundle and we will see that way more often.

I think that at least part of this is also that Humble Bundle is literally running out of quality games that developers are willing to sell for the ‘name your own price’. Developers are worried that it is eroding the market price, and I think rightfully so.
 

Maximilian

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Playing civ IV again now because of this

My current strategy is to fire enough nukes and cause enough global warming so that theres nothing but desert everywhere and every other civ starves to death, ill support my civ with the sushi co and cereal mills. :thumbsup:
 

Lil Frier

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Well, if they can sell fewer bundles and make as much or more money then that is a win for Humble Bundle and we will see that way more often.

I think that at least part of this is also that Humble Bundle is literally running out of quality games that developers are willing to sell for the ‘name your own price’. Developers are worried that it is eroding the market price, and I think rightfully so.

I agree, it's a legitimate problem. It's pretty telling when I see the Double Fine Bundle and think "$6? Heck no!" granted, that's got a lot to do with the fact that I don't want those games. However, when I say $15 for every Civilization game (basically), that's also a problem.

It's becoming debatable as to whether Humble Bundles can stay around for a lot longer. They could improve by expanding to things like the audiobook offer more often, but who really wants to go and give away games like that all the time?

Personally, I think they should do some recycling with it, because there are a lot of bundles I missed, seeing as I didn't even start looking at them until a few months ago. I wonder if their agreements allow for such things, or if they need to get re-approved to put a game in a future deal.
 

Revolution 11

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I already have Civ IV Complete..but haven't had much chance to play it.. should I just stick with that, or is Civ V a worthy game to play instead of IV?

If you have Civ IV Complete, I would forget about this bundle. Civ 5 is good, but the tech progresses too fast (you can slow down the game pace but that creates other problems). I have gotten to gunpowder by 500 AD easily. On the other hand, city numbers are now well-balanced, too many cities increase your culture costs. Happiness is now a global attribute.

The interface looks nice but it is not as readable or intuitive as Civ 4's UI. Units occupy a tile by themselves, no more stacks of doom. Ranged combat now allows for true zone-of-control warfare, archers are good at support roles instead of pure defense or combat. Cities can now be left without garrisons in many cases as they get their own ranged attacks and health. It takes about 3 or 4 melee units to take a city down. City defense now depends on using units to slow the attack down as the city attacks back each turn. It does feel more organic and requires overwhelming forces for offenses.

It is not as flexible as Civ 4's gameplay nor is it as pure as Civ 2's mechanics. I would not pay $10 just for Civ 5 unless you are not satisfied with Civ 4 or want the other Bundle games.
 

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Lifer
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However, when I say $15 for every Civilization game (basically), that's also a problem.
I think part of the problem here is that if you wanted Civ 4 or lower you would have it by now. It has been on sale for as little as $4 including, all the DLC, many times. Civ 5 has been on sale regularly for $10 including everything up to the Gods and Kings DLC. So, if you are a fan of the Civilization game franchise you have probably already bought everything except the Brave New World DLC for less then the $15.

It's becoming debatable as to whether Humble Bundles can stay around for a lot longer. They could improve by expanding to things like the audiobook offer more often, but who really wants to go and give away games like that all the time?
I would love them to do more ebook and audiobook bundles. I have very much enjoyed each of them. I would love to see them do a comic book bundle as well.

Personally, I think they should do some recycling with it, because there are a lot of bundles I missed, seeing as I didn't even start looking at them until a few months ago. I wonder if their agreements allow for such things, or if they need to get re-approved to put a game in a future deal.
They do recycle a lot. I think I have like 5 copies of The Binding of Issac now from Humble Bundles.
 

obidamnkenobi

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I already have Civ IV Complete..but haven't had much chance to play it.. should I just stick with that, or is Civ V a worthy game to play instead of IV?

If you own Civ 4 you already have one of the best (recent) games ever made. Can put hundreds of hours into it. So play that, no need to spend money on 5.
 

Lil Frier

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I think part of the problem here is that if you wanted Civ 4 or lower you would have it by now. It has been on sale for as little as $4 including, all the DLC, many times. Civ 5 has been on sale regularly for $10 including everything up to the Gods and Kings DLC. So, if you are a fan of the Civilization game franchise you have probably already bought everything except the Brave New World DLC for less then the $15.

Well, it's different for me. I just started snatching up PC games before this past Steam sale, when I got that Humble Bundle with Sanctum 2 in it. I've not played games much on my PC, it's just not what I've cared to do.

However, when the Steam sale was going on, something I was unable to find for myself was an RTS to play. I grabbed some shooters (Deus Ex and Max Payne trilogies), along with Dishonored and Dark Souls, and a few others. I just didn't see an RTS that convinced me during the sale.

Civ V was one of the things on-sale, but I wasn't willing to put the $30 or so into it so I could get it all, since I'm not sure I like turn-based stuff enough. I grew up with Empire Earth and some Age of Empires, and I like that real-time setup. So it's not like I skipped the other Civ games intentionally, I just wasn't playing PC games, or even buying them. I still need a strategy game, and this bundle intrigued me on that front.


I would love them to do more ebook and audiobook bundles. I have very much enjoyed each of them. I would love to see them do a comic book bundle as well.

I personally have 0 interest in such things, because I'm not a book person. However, I think it'd be needed to keep the thing going, if finding games to offer is really becoming a problem.

They do recycle a lot. I think I have like 5 copies of The Binding of Issac now from Humble Bundles.

Not enough. Only one bundle's intrigued me in the past 3 months, and that's including the weekly AND bi-weekly stuff.
 

EDUSAN

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humble bundle doesnt repeat that much

binding of isaac is probably one of the few that was repeated

you will start to get repeated games if you start buying humble bundle and all the other bundles around, but if you stick to HB you dont get so many repeated
 

MeldarthX

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They've added pirates *oh yea* to the bundle .....and something else maybe; pirates is a blast
 

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Lifer
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Civ V was one of the things on-sale, but I wasn't willing to put the $30 or so into it so I could get it all, since I'm not sure I like turn-based stuff enough. I grew up with Empire Earth and some Age of Empires, and I like that real-time setup. So it's not like I skipped the other Civ games intentionally, I just wasn't playing PC games, or even buying them. I still need a strategy game, and this bundle intrigued me on that front.

Just to be sure you understand, Civilization is nothing at all like a RTS. The real game in Civ is the building of an empire. The strategy in Civ is how you manage your cities and the combat is a proving ground. The vast majority of the game is taken up by deciding what to build, when to build, and how to allocate resources. While this does not sound fun, it really, really is.
 

Lil Frier

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It sounds like how I play MLB 2K games. Instead of playing the baseball games, I spend hours making trades, then simulate the season. I'm pretty sure it's why I am one of about 5 people in the universe who liked MLB Front Office Manager.
 
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