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So not too long ago i bought a 1070ti at impulse due to its 470$ price tag, me having a r9-290 on 2560x1440 on my new freesync monitor was killing my fps.. But i forgot about freesynce when i got this 1070ti...
So I bought a Asus Strix ROG Vega 64 OC edition... And did next day shipping.. Since I had both Vega 64 and a 1070ti and RMA policies are 30 days on Amazon and Newegg i decided why not test them both and see which one is actually a better card ?
Well the games I used were Subnautica, Wolfenstein 2, Total War Warhammer, World of Warships, The Witcher 3 and Mechwarrior Online, which are the games i normally have been playing.
All the games were maxed out in details, running at 2560x1440 resolution and my monitor is freesync and 144hz..
In Subnautica the Average FPS for the Vega 64 during a path i made in game using a little string like marker to follow Was 65fps, Freesync worked.. but the game had very bad ingame micro stuttering that hurt my eyes and drove me insaine, the game was running at that good framerate but it looked like it was running at 15fps.. I turned freesync off and that didnt do anything. Some Searches online noticed the Vega 64 has microstutter in this game.. On top of this i had to use a driver release that was 5 releases back in order for the game to even launch, some serious driver problems.
The Nividia 1070ti was getting an average of 70fps, and have 0 Microstutter, but again no freesync
In Wolfenstein 2 the New colossus, average FPS on the Eva's Hammer was 130 or so with spikes in the 150's. Freesync looked BEAUTIFUL, but sadly it was doing that bullcrap flickering that freesync does. I recorded a video of it and will upload it. The Flickering on freesync i think its a bandwidth and driver issue, it stops doing it at 1920x1080 or in windowed mode but does it in full screen.. Its terrible looking and looks like a long tube florescent light is flickering slightly.. With no freesync it ran fine, but then of course you have that input lag or weird slowdown you notice on objects almost like a ghosting but not, if you guys have seen freesync on and off you know what im saying.
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The Nvidia card was getting roughly the same FPS 130-150 and of course no freesync but no complaints other then that..
In Total War Warhammer 2, The Vega 64 gets an average of 60fps in the World map benchmark, 55fps in the battle map benchmark and the 2nd battle benchmark it got 49. The Vega 64 also in a real game on the compaign map has horrible micro stutter just like in subnautica.. one second its smooth as butter the next it looks like youre getting 15fps but youre not and your eyes start hurting.. Freesync flickers SOMETIMES only 20% of the time maybe
The 1070ti, on the campaign benchmark got 73 average, the first battle benchmark got 61, and the 2nd battle benchmark got 53. No microstutter at all ran smooth as silk in the same campaign map that the vega 64 stuttered in.. But again no freesync so youre stuck with vsync or fast sync.
In Witcher 3, both cards ran smoothly and had 0 issues, freesync worked great, but the average fps for the Vega 64 was 75 in Khaer Morghen and the 1070ti was 80.
In Mechwarrior online, the Vega 64 had serious Micro suttering and the game looked like i was again 15fps and was killing my eyes during gameplay.. Yet the fps was 60-70+, freesync seemed to work but with the microstutter i couldnt tell jack.. 1070TI got the same framerate but ran smooth as butter.
In World of Warships, the Average FPS on Vega 64 was 70 the same map and same moving position the Nvidia card was 81.. In THE MAIN menu at port the Nvidia card gets 10fps higher as well. Freesync works great and looks beautiful in this game. (i remember it used to have freesync flicker on my r9-290.)
I also forgot to mention i did play Residentevil 7 as well and freesync did work in the game as well and fps was in the 130-140 range on both cards.
So in every single game the 1070ti got more fps then the Vega 64.. And this is using the stock boost clocks on both cards.. Also the Strix Vega 64 cant even reach its advertised boost clock of 1590mhz that asus claims.. When you start a game it only goes to 1550 immediatly but then slowely drops down and down to a good medium around 1440mhz and 82C !!! on the core.. And this is with Asus's Fancy 3 fan cooler 40% better contact heatsink design on the Strix ROG... The Nividia 1070ti is getting an Average of 10-20% more fps in all my games i played over the Vega 64 except in Wolfenstein 2.
So my question is this, The Vega 64 is clearly slower for me on my system.. I dont get where all these benchmarks are coming from saying the Vega 64 is faster and the 1070ti is competing with the Vega 56.. Thats a flat out lie.. At least from what ive experienced.. The Vega 64 also STILLLL suffers from freesync flickering.. Why did i just spent $600 on a card thinking i was going to RMA the 1070ti becuase i boughgt it by accident.. only to find out in 2 of the games i tested that it flickers. And the micro stuttering.. in 3 games, subnautica, warhammer 2, and mechwarrior online.. I mean this microstutter is game breaking.. It LOOKS bad... and hurts your eyes.. have you guys ever seen a game run at 15-20fps.. thats what this looks like yet the games were getting 60+ fps.
The Vega 64 runs so hot 82c and this was just playing the games for 30min or so each.. Imagine if my room was warm from 6 hours of gaming.. It wont even reach advertised clock speeds.. and actually is downclocking itself 200mhz almost.
Can someone please try to convince me NOT to RMA the Vega 64... Why shouldnt I ? Why should I keep a card that got lower frame rate over a card that was 130$ cheaper.. I thought to myself.. eh 10-20% is only 5-10fps less.. Freesync looks so good who cares.. but, why should i keep a card that flickers using freesync lol ? And why does this thing get soo freaking hot at 82c maxing out the fan speed even with 3 120mm fans on the case door alone not mentioning the 6 other case fans i have lol.
I dunno, sorry for a long post im sure i got wont get any replies.. I have 2-3 days to decide which card to keep.. Please help me out here.. I really REALLY want the Vega 64.. freesync if you have seen it working vs standard vsync looks 10x amazing.. games run like its real life.. its like watching a video at 640x480 then comparing it to 1440p on youtube. Its that much better... I had a friend who knows nothing about this stuff watch wolfenstein 2 with freesync off and on, and she thought the game made her feel sick with freesync off and just using vsync due the input lag and that weird ghosting like affect it causes.. And with freesync on she said it looked like it was flowing like a smooth stream of water.
But with all the negatives.. the lower frame rates, freesync flickering and the micro stutters.. why should i keep this thing ? Originally i thought i could deal with half my games not working with freesync and the other half working.. but the micro stutters is what put that last nail in the coffin half way down for me.
And before you say well if i can afford a $600 Vega64 and a $470 1070ti, so why not get a 1080ti.. Yes I have the money but that is only for 1 or the otherand i needed the 500or 600 back on one.. I cant spend $800 for a 1080ti
So I bought a Asus Strix ROG Vega 64 OC edition... And did next day shipping.. Since I had both Vega 64 and a 1070ti and RMA policies are 30 days on Amazon and Newegg i decided why not test them both and see which one is actually a better card ?
Well the games I used were Subnautica, Wolfenstein 2, Total War Warhammer, World of Warships, The Witcher 3 and Mechwarrior Online, which are the games i normally have been playing.
All the games were maxed out in details, running at 2560x1440 resolution and my monitor is freesync and 144hz..
In Subnautica the Average FPS for the Vega 64 during a path i made in game using a little string like marker to follow Was 65fps, Freesync worked.. but the game had very bad ingame micro stuttering that hurt my eyes and drove me insaine, the game was running at that good framerate but it looked like it was running at 15fps.. I turned freesync off and that didnt do anything. Some Searches online noticed the Vega 64 has microstutter in this game.. On top of this i had to use a driver release that was 5 releases back in order for the game to even launch, some serious driver problems.
The Nividia 1070ti was getting an average of 70fps, and have 0 Microstutter, but again no freesync
In Wolfenstein 2 the New colossus, average FPS on the Eva's Hammer was 130 or so with spikes in the 150's. Freesync looked BEAUTIFUL, but sadly it was doing that bullcrap flickering that freesync does. I recorded a video of it and will upload it. The Flickering on freesync i think its a bandwidth and driver issue, it stops doing it at 1920x1080 or in windowed mode but does it in full screen.. Its terrible looking and looks like a long tube florescent light is flickering slightly.. With no freesync it ran fine, but then of course you have that input lag or weird slowdown you notice on objects almost like a ghosting but not, if you guys have seen freesync on and off you know what im saying.
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The Nvidia card was getting roughly the same FPS 130-150 and of course no freesync but no complaints other then that..
In Total War Warhammer 2, The Vega 64 gets an average of 60fps in the World map benchmark, 55fps in the battle map benchmark and the 2nd battle benchmark it got 49. The Vega 64 also in a real game on the compaign map has horrible micro stutter just like in subnautica.. one second its smooth as butter the next it looks like youre getting 15fps but youre not and your eyes start hurting.. Freesync flickers SOMETIMES only 20% of the time maybe
The 1070ti, on the campaign benchmark got 73 average, the first battle benchmark got 61, and the 2nd battle benchmark got 53. No microstutter at all ran smooth as silk in the same campaign map that the vega 64 stuttered in.. But again no freesync so youre stuck with vsync or fast sync.
In Witcher 3, both cards ran smoothly and had 0 issues, freesync worked great, but the average fps for the Vega 64 was 75 in Khaer Morghen and the 1070ti was 80.
In Mechwarrior online, the Vega 64 had serious Micro suttering and the game looked like i was again 15fps and was killing my eyes during gameplay.. Yet the fps was 60-70+, freesync seemed to work but with the microstutter i couldnt tell jack.. 1070TI got the same framerate but ran smooth as butter.
In World of Warships, the Average FPS on Vega 64 was 70 the same map and same moving position the Nvidia card was 81.. In THE MAIN menu at port the Nvidia card gets 10fps higher as well. Freesync works great and looks beautiful in this game. (i remember it used to have freesync flicker on my r9-290.)
I also forgot to mention i did play Residentevil 7 as well and freesync did work in the game as well and fps was in the 130-140 range on both cards.
So in every single game the 1070ti got more fps then the Vega 64.. And this is using the stock boost clocks on both cards.. Also the Strix Vega 64 cant even reach its advertised boost clock of 1590mhz that asus claims.. When you start a game it only goes to 1550 immediatly but then slowely drops down and down to a good medium around 1440mhz and 82C !!! on the core.. And this is with Asus's Fancy 3 fan cooler 40% better contact heatsink design on the Strix ROG... The Nividia 1070ti is getting an Average of 10-20% more fps in all my games i played over the Vega 64 except in Wolfenstein 2.
So my question is this, The Vega 64 is clearly slower for me on my system.. I dont get where all these benchmarks are coming from saying the Vega 64 is faster and the 1070ti is competing with the Vega 56.. Thats a flat out lie.. At least from what ive experienced.. The Vega 64 also STILLLL suffers from freesync flickering.. Why did i just spent $600 on a card thinking i was going to RMA the 1070ti becuase i boughgt it by accident.. only to find out in 2 of the games i tested that it flickers. And the micro stuttering.. in 3 games, subnautica, warhammer 2, and mechwarrior online.. I mean this microstutter is game breaking.. It LOOKS bad... and hurts your eyes.. have you guys ever seen a game run at 15-20fps.. thats what this looks like yet the games were getting 60+ fps.
The Vega 64 runs so hot 82c and this was just playing the games for 30min or so each.. Imagine if my room was warm from 6 hours of gaming.. It wont even reach advertised clock speeds.. and actually is downclocking itself 200mhz almost.
Can someone please try to convince me NOT to RMA the Vega 64... Why shouldnt I ? Why should I keep a card that got lower frame rate over a card that was 130$ cheaper.. I thought to myself.. eh 10-20% is only 5-10fps less.. Freesync looks so good who cares.. but, why should i keep a card that flickers using freesync lol ? And why does this thing get soo freaking hot at 82c maxing out the fan speed even with 3 120mm fans on the case door alone not mentioning the 6 other case fans i have lol.
I dunno, sorry for a long post im sure i got wont get any replies.. I have 2-3 days to decide which card to keep.. Please help me out here.. I really REALLY want the Vega 64.. freesync if you have seen it working vs standard vsync looks 10x amazing.. games run like its real life.. its like watching a video at 640x480 then comparing it to 1440p on youtube. Its that much better... I had a friend who knows nothing about this stuff watch wolfenstein 2 with freesync off and on, and she thought the game made her feel sick with freesync off and just using vsync due the input lag and that weird ghosting like affect it causes.. And with freesync on she said it looked like it was flowing like a smooth stream of water.
But with all the negatives.. the lower frame rates, freesync flickering and the micro stutters.. why should i keep this thing ? Originally i thought i could deal with half my games not working with freesync and the other half working.. but the micro stutters is what put that last nail in the coffin half way down for me.
And before you say well if i can afford a $600 Vega64 and a $470 1070ti, so why not get a 1080ti.. Yes I have the money but that is only for 1 or the otherand i needed the 500or 600 back on one.. I cant spend $800 for a 1080ti
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