Sigma SD14 Digital SLR Camera Super Hot deal!! WOW $429.95

iseestars

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Why do all the spammers use the black-male with glasses logo? Is that the default or something?

It's bordering on reverse racism or something. They figure if they use a black figure as their avatar people will somehow assume their stuff isn't spam.
 

Baked

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Checked resellerratings on the website, looks pretty legit. Doesn't change the fact that the OP might be an employee pimping his company for free.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Even if he works for Cameta Camera - I've dealt with them before when I bought a Rebel K2 back in the day. Top notch service. Instead of the norm of just email communication, one of the reps there actually called me to verify the order and get the ball rolling on it.
 

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Cameta Camera is highly reputable. I've bought many things from them before, and have no complaints. They are an authorized Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc dealer, and sell a lot of stuff (new and factory refurbished/mint condition) on eBay.
 

dnuggett

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Check the reviews before you buy this camera. Sigma doesn't make good DSLRs. Not when you can get a Nikon D60 or Canon 20D for just about that price. Not only that but Sigma's cheap glass is the only thing that will work on it.
 

finbarqs

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It's easy to say "you can get a canon 20D or a Nikon D60 for approximately the same price" what people don't really know is that Sigma SD14 is the only DSLR camera currently using the Foveon Sensor!!!

Raw users will get 100% of the RGB gamut as each pixel has all 3 (RGB) colors compared to the bayer sensors (nikon, canon, etc.) which only has 1 color per pixel.

I don't wanna turn this into a foveon x3 vs. bayer debate, but photographers who used this camera says the results are like shooting slide film!

good one!
 

dnuggett

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Originally posted by: finbarqs
It's easy to say "you can get a canon 20D or a Nikon D60 for approximately the same price" what people don't really know is that Sigma SD14 is the only DSLR camera currently using the Foveon Sensor!!!

Raw users will get 100% of the RGB gamut as each pixel has all 3 (RGB) colors compared to the bayer sensors (nikon, canon, etc.) which only has 1 color per pixel.

I don't wanna turn this into a foveon x3 vs. bayer debate, but photographers who used this camera says the results are like shooting slide film!

good one!



Agreed, not turning this into a debate. If the Sigma is your thing, go for it. If you think that Canon and Nikon sensors are inferior and things like quality, ease of use, lenses etc don't matter then maybe the Sigma is the way to go.

The majority of the world may disagree but nevermind them, you've got that secret Foveon sensor!!
 

uli2000

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I almost pulled the trigger, but it appears Sigma is going to be foregoing the Foveon sensor and SA mount in their new cameras. I really wanted to, but the avalibility of the SA glass seems pretty hard to come by. I guess you can use Canon lenses, but it takes some working to get the af to work.
 

finbarqs

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sigma just announced the SD15, perhaps that's the reason why for the major price drop.
 

finbarqs

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The majority of the world who has a lot of post processing skills will need to "photoshop" the rest of the colors in. But hey, you got your photoshop skills!

Again, not to turn this INTO a debate, but with comments like "you've got your SECRET foveon sensor" is pretty immature.

I currently shoot a Nikon D300, with full intentions of buying a 5DMK2. (sorry D700). If sigma had a Full frame DSLR with 12MP or even 10MP (x3 -- in which they would call it 30mp) with canon or nikon mount then i'd be all over that camera. Foveon (and a lot of users from dpreview.com agree) is the future of sensors.

I spent a lot of hours in photoshop/lightroom trying to batch process a set of shots trying to color correct them.

Additionally, the SD14 is THE camra to have to shoot InfraRed. The IR filter is right in front of the mirror and is easily removeable.

so please, no more comments like "you've got your secret foveon sensor!"
 

dnuggett

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Originally posted by: finbarqs
The majority of the world who has a lot of post processing skills will need to "photoshop" the rest of the colors in. But hey, you got your photoshop skills!

Again, not to turn this INTO a debate, but with comments like "you've got your SECRET foveon sensor" is pretty immature.

I currently shoot a Nikon D300, with full intentions of buying a 5DMK2. (sorry D700). If sigma had a Full frame DSLR with 12MP or even 10MP (x3 -- in which they would call it 30mp) with canon or nikon mount then i'd be all over that camera. Foveon (and a lot of users from dpreview.com agree) is the future of sensors.

I spent a lot of hours in photoshop/lightroom trying to batch process a set of shots trying to color correct them.

Additionally, the SD14 is THE camra to have to shoot InfraRed. The IR filter is right in front of the mirror and is easily removeable.

so please, no more comments like "you've got your secret foveon sensor!"


The reason for the comment was based upon your comment..."what people don't really know", thus making it a secret.

I have rarely, in fact I can't remember the last time I needed to "photoshop" colors in. If you know how to use your camera and the proper settings and know how to work with what the scene is giving you there is little need.

If you spent hours trying to color correct, you were probably trying to make the best of poor conditions. I wouldn't call that a limitation of the camera. I also wouldn't go far enough to say that the Sigma would have made your images any better.

Ok, so maybe for infrared you have something. But then again.... how many shoot IR?

In any event, for those that want the camera have at it. In fact... I am going to take a step back and say that for most that will be viewing this thread that camera is fine. Most won't worry about things like how easy the adjustments are on the fly, how fast start up time is, or even the glass they are using on the camera. To most this will be used just like a point and shoot. So, I say go for it.
 

finbarqs

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making the best in poor conditions is at best the worst that can happen in digital photography. Remember back in the day of film? Most photographers will agree that slide film produces the most accurate colors to what the naked eye can see. That's why when you purchase 35mm film, there are a few film to choose from! Each in which react to light in a different way, and also, requires different chemicals to be developed.

Obviously we can compare "photoshopping/post-processing" (such as color correction) to what we use to do in the darkroom (for whatever we can do to the enlargement).

In digital photography, we are stuck with one sensor, and that sensor reacts to light in a single way. Sure, we have processors in the camera to calculate what colors should come out, but in the end, when we record raw, it's exactly how the light falls onto the sensor: Sometimes muted colors, default white balance, and (depending on glass) soft edges. At times, we'll also get poor contrast (depending on the lighting conditions) But at best, you'll achieve an "average color" that almost 100% of the time, needs color correction for that extra "wow" factor.
 
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