Silly Food Lawsuits

dullard

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The thing to me about the pumpkin face, is that they claim that people believe the product would be exactly as shown on the package. However, that image shown on the package has a bite taken out of it. So, did they expect to purchase already eaten candy? Even if the lawsuit is valid, their own claim falls on its own based on that alone.
 

RLGL

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The lawyers put the suckers up to it, they are the true winners in these things
 
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Torn Mind

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The media protects corporate interests by framing the lawsuits as petty or frivolous.

As a result, companies can prosper while the consumer is harmed, even if the damages are a mere violation of law with nothing enough to constitute compensatory damages.

And the general populace easily takes bait of pro-corporate empowerment.
 

nakedfrog

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Russo said his firm receives around 100 calls a month for these types of cases.

"Some are a little wacky, to be honest with you. We probably take, you know, less than 1%," he said.

 
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nakedfrog

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The media protects corporate interests by framing the lawsuits as petty or frivolous.

As a result, companies can prosper while the consumer is harmed, even if the damages are a mere violation of law with nothing enough to constitute compensatory damages.

And the general populace easily takes bait of pro-corporate empowerment.
What EXACTLY is the "harm" here?
"Oh no, Halloween is ruined because my peanut butter cups don't have FACES ON THEM!"
/Little Timmy stabs his entire family to death
 
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yottabit

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If the package doesn’t have a see through window then the image should match what’s inside, at least if it’s a “realistic” looking image

It’s ridiculous the extent the food advertisements go to to make things look more apppetizing than they are

 

Red Squirrel

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It's crazy what goes into making food ads so that it looks appetizing. If you tried to use 100% the real thing it would just not look right. But it can also be misleading. When making a website for a local take-out place I did have to stage food though we used all the real items from the menu. There really is a science to it though, because when you take a food order that is ready to eat and try to take a picture of it, it just doesn't look good, even if it looks good in person. We ordered different menu items and told kitchen it was for a display so to take extra time so it looks nice and once we got it we played around a bit more with it to make sure you can see all the ingredients and that it looks presentable. So it does end up being different than what you're actually getting, to some extent.

Some of the big brands go even further by not even using the real food item but a fake replica of it. I can kind of understand that though, because they might be playing with it for several hours to setup different shots and try to do that with real food and it will start to get soggy and stuff.
 
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yottabit

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Let’s not forget:
Subway tuna that’s not tuna.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/22/subway-sandwiches-tuna-lab-test

Bread that can’t legally be called bread in some countries due to the sugar content

Chocolate that can’t legally be called chocolate
 

Torn Mind

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What EXACTLY is the "harm" here?
"Oh no, Halloween is ruined because my peanut butter cups don't have FACES ON THEM!"
/Little Timmy stabs his entire family to death
That product is accurately represented.

In addition, populace need not white knight a complaint just because the subject feels ridiculous or trivial. The process of motion to dismiss is precisely teasing out the cases that sufficiently plead allegations a violation of law exists from those that do not.

Even if the case is dismissed, it adds to the case law in fleshing what parameters need to be met to sufficiently allege a violation of law in the future. What is good enough for the elements to be met. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fal...on occurred, or at,of injury to the plaintiff.

In certain matters, mere nominal damages can be awarded, a recognition a violation occurred even if compensatory or punitive damages are not established.

Your argument is simply that because compensatory damages are trivial or nonexistent, there cannot be a violation of law. Furthermore, you do not seem to consider non-economic damages as proper damages.
 

Red Squirrel

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The issue with these dumb lawsuits is that they cost a lot of time and money for nothing for the defendant. If you hate someone you can just keep suing them for the dumbest things, even if you lose, they lose too. At an individual level this can even cause someone to lose their job because they keep having to go to court so they're never at work. But you could even hurt a small business this way, such as suing them right before Christmas and now they're stuck dealing with that instead of running their business as they may not have the staff to deal with that.

There really should be some sort of way to prevent dumb lawsuits. Maybe some kind of "pre filter" stage where it's only the person suing and the judge. If the judge thinks the lawsuit is dumb they have to pay a fine and the whole thing is dismissed without the defendant even needing to be involved.
 

Torn Mind

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The issue with these dumb lawsuits is that they cost a lot of time and money for nothing for the defendant. If you hate someone you can just keep suing them for the dumbest things, even if you lose, they lose too. At an individual level this can even cause someone to lose their job because they keep having to go to court so they're never at work. But you could even hurt a small business this way, such as suing them right before Christmas and now they're stuck dealing with that instead of running their business as they may not have the staff to deal with that.

There really should be some sort of way to prevent dumb lawsuits. Maybe some kind of "pre filter" stage where it's only the person suing and the judge. If the judge thinks the lawsuit is dumb they have to pay a fine and the whole thing is dismissed without the defendant even needing to be involved.
Class actions are one of the few actual legal counterbalances to corporate power abuse. It is precisely the situation where it would not be economically feasible for a single individual to allege a wrong but nevertheless, damages are inflicted upon a significant number of people in the same way.

In the motion to dismiss stage, the ability to allege sufficiently is already put to the test. Allowing a judge to end a suit on the grounds of whatever "feels" wrong is an immediate pathway to abuse.

For an apparently fair system, you need to apparently employ a consistent set of rules when dismissing cases. The media, itself powered by corporations and influence(just look at CBS not wanting to air a segment of cigarettes with Jeffrey Wigand), influences the masses to essentially neuter the masses' own protections.

What is not reported in this instant matter...is that the complaint put forth exhibits showing that prior candy packaging did show chocolate pieces that had no faces and thus match the actual candy sold.
The public, including some in this thread, are going off a narrative in which this extra information is not in the "four corners" of the media reports.
 

Kaido

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GodisanAtheist

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TBF I don't have a lot of sympathy for bullshit marketing.

Just show the product you're selling or even better *don't*. Stop with all this plastic bullshit ship it in a little cardboard or parchment paper baggy and let god sort it out.

I would eat Peanuts butter cups even if they were shaped like little dead Jeane bene ramsey's face cause they're that good and I don't give a shit what they look like, just don't lie to me saying they look like scarlette Johnson.
 

nakedfrog

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That product is accurately represented.

In addition, populace need not white knight a complaint just because the subject feels ridiculous or trivial. The process of motion to dismiss is precisely teasing out the cases that sufficiently plead allegations a violation of law exists from those that do not.

Even if the case is dismissed, it adds to the case law in fleshing what parameters need to be met to sufficiently allege a violation of law in the future. What is good enough for the elements to be met. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/false_advertising#:~:text=Actual deception occurred, or at,of injury to the plaintiff.

In certain matters, mere nominal damages can be awarded, a recognition a violation occurred even if compensatory or punitive damages are not established.

Your argument is simply that because compensatory damages are trivial or nonexistent, there cannot be a violation of law. Furthermore, you do not seem to consider non-economic damages as proper damages.
No, my argument is that no one has been harmed, keep your slimy weasel words out of my mouth. This is a non-issue, and represents cash grubbing from the stupid. She would have been better off writing the company with her complaint and getting her coupon for one free Reese's peanut butter cup that way, rather than involving cash grubbing lawyers to suckle at the teat of a corporate giant once again.
 
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I got a package of York Peppermint Patties that shows them shaped as snowflakes. The patties are closer to a six point star of some kind than a snowflake.

Can I sue for a billion dollars?
 
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jmagg

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I got a package of York Peppermint Patties that shows them shaped as snowflakes. The patties are closer to a six point star of some kind than a snowflake.

Can I sue for a billion dollars?
No, buts that's a cute way to shrink the weight.
 

nakedfrog

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Sounds like he's probably fine to sue them because while it does warn against microwaving the foil, it doesn't specifically tell you that it may damage your microwave, so he's obviously 100% in the right

 
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