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fixbsod

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Ballmer is an idiot that's the problem, well actually it's more that he's a geek whereas Bill Gates was a nerd. Nerds are those smart people that really know the ins and outs where as geeks are more the fanboys who like tech but don't really know it all that well.

So completely missed was the transition to mobile -- both OS and platform/hardware. And now that they're finally getting around we get Windows 8 crap shoved down our throats that chains the desktop to a tablet like OS. Tail wagging the dog?

Microsoft has completely flatlined under Ballmer with NO stock growth. PERIOD. Take this and combine it with the recent report that Ballmer purposefully fires subordinates who could give him competition :

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/22/us-microsoft-book-idUSBRE90L04320130122

The only thing I want Microsoft to cater to is the STOCK PRICE.

Because what would any other Microsoft CEO be doing that Ballmer isn't. Catering to your wishes? :whiste:

Replacing a CEO doesn't let you do over mistakes, otherwise I would be right there with you. And even a person like Tim Cook who was groomed by Steve Jobs himself for several years hasn't fixed what's ailed that company (loosing almost 1/2 your share value in 6 months should mean we cut off his head too).
 
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So which free game are you picking? I didn't care much for the 'back to hub' style of me1/2, so I was thinking dead space 3.

Maybe nfs, but the last time I played need for speed was hot pursuit some 15 years ago.
 

Skel

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So which free game are you picking? I didn't care much for the 'back to hub' style of me1/2, so I was thinking dead space 3.

Maybe nfs, but the last time I played need for speed was hot pursuit some 15 years ago.

Everyone really should take SimCity 4. That'll send a message to EA about what a SimCity game should be like.
 
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Been reading some responses around the net in addition to these here. Some people just aren't satisfied.

- "I already own all of those games." Would there have been any game that would've made you happy, then?
- "They are only offering sequels to make money on the first games in the series." Would you have rather them offered the first game that is years old and cheap as hell?
- "They are only offering games with extensive DLC to make money." The only games of theirs that don't have DLC are the cheap ones.
- "They are only allowing future registrations to still qualify for the game so people will buy SimCity." You think? Not a bad deal, two games for one.
- "Them offering SimCity 4 is a sign they think the new one is bad." All I've read is people saying go back to SC4 to play a 'real' SimCity game, now you can.
- "If I try to get a refund of SimCity, they won't let me have a free game." Well no shit, you got your money back.
- "Why aren't they offering Spore?" They're doing you a favor.
- "Why aren't they offering the SimCity DLC?" Because you complained that you didn't like the game, why would you want the DLC?
- "Why can't I get Crysis 3?" Because it's not their game to give away, nitwit.
- "Why can't I pick any game in Origin?" Because they're not a charity, don't be ignorant. If you thought this was going to happen, get a clue.

Lots and lots of whining. I just don't get it.
 

lupi

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They made a very open sounding offer, then provided an extremely limited actual circumstance. Doesn't surprise me that so many would be upset after dealing with the issues of a supposedly top grade product.
 

dagamer34

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Ballmer is an idiot that's the problem, well actually it's more that he's a geek whereas Bill Gates was a nerd. Nerds are those smart people that really know the ins and outs where as geeks are more the fanboys who like tech but don't really know it all that well.

So completely missed was the transition to mobile -- both OS and platform/hardware. And now that they're finally getting around we get Windows 8 crap shoved down our throats that chains the desktop to a tablet like OS. Tail wagging the dog?

Microsoft has completely flatlined under Ballmer with NO stock growth. PERIOD. Take this and combine it with the recent report that Ballmer purposefully fires subordinates who could give him competition :

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/22/us-microsoft-book-idUSBRE90L04320130122

The only thing I want Microsoft to cater to is the STOCK PRICE.

Oh, so you are one of those silly people that would rather have Windows 8 be Windows 7++ with just a few improvements and Microsoft should make a separate tablet OS built from Windows Phone. That sounds like an excellent idea except.... no one would buy it. Meanwhile Apple would continue to dominate in tablets and both Apple and Google would start seriously chipping away at Windows marketshare.

Want to know why Windows 8 got shoved down your throat? Because telling developers "We ship 350 million copies of Windows a year" is too idiotic to pass up long term. But if you actually tried to convince developers to make apps just for Windows RT (pretend the desktop was disabled), then uhhh... there would seriously be zero apps (there are 44,000+ now).

So no, catering to your every whim and thinking Ballmer is an idiot demonstrates the reason why he is still CEO and you aren't. You want to play this short term game of building a product for you is like RIM continuing to build the same BlackBerry model for 6 years while Apple was cleaning it's clock with touchscreen phones.
 

dagamer34

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Been reading some responses around the net in addition to these here. Some people just aren't satisfied.

- "I already own all of those games." Would there have been any game that would've made you happy, then?
- "They are only offering sequels to make money on the first games in the series." Would you have rather them offered the first game that is years old and cheap as hell?
- "They are only offering games with extensive DLC to make money." The only games of theirs that don't have DLC are the cheap ones.
- "They are only allowing future registrations to still qualify for the game so people will buy SimCity." You think? Not a bad deal, two games for one.
- "Them offering SimCity 4 is a sign they think the new one is bad." All I've read is people saying go back to SC4 to play a 'real' SimCity game, now you can.
- "If I try to get a refund of SimCity, they won't let me have a free game." Well no shit, you got your money back.
- "Why aren't they offering Spore?" They're doing you a favor.
- "Why aren't they offering the SimCity DLC?" Because you complained that you didn't like the game, why would you want the DLC?
- "Why can't I get Crysis 3?" Because it's not their game to give away, nitwit.
- "Why can't I pick any game in Origin?" Because they're not a charity, don't be ignorant. If you thought this was going to happen, get a clue.

Lots and lots of whining. I just don't get it.

It's proof people complain just for the sake of complaining. The always-on DRM complaints are the stupidest. It was abundantly clear that the game required to you to be online to play, if you hated that idea, why would you have pre-ordered? :whiste:
 

Rinaun

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Really? IMO, it looks like they included a pretty good variety of games there. You don't like shooter games? Or puzzle games? Or horror games? Or racing games? or RPGs?

It's free dude. Then again, I don't know what else I expected; the gaming community is the only community I know of that will actually whine and bitch about getting free stuff. EA trying to apologize to people by offering a brand new, $60 game, for completely free? "FUCK YOU EA." Yup, that sounds about par for the course.

I'm not trying to defend SimCity. I know it's a disaster. But it just bothers me when people get worked up and pissed because they're getting stuff for free. I guess I'm just ranting about obnoxious people in general. It's shit like this that makes me embarassed to tell people I'm a "gamer".

Sorry you'll have to suffer through your free game. Really, really sorry.

This is why I'm pretty much giving up on the PC gaming community. There are so many people willing to take it in the ass over and over from publishers that its hard to want to even be involved in this community on a base level anymore. 10 years ago, shit like this would make companies fail. Last time I remembered, when you say to your customers you get a free game from a publishers library, it should fucking include every game they have made. The games available for this sim city deal are terrible. You don't even get BF3 premium? So what that is saying is they want you to have a free game, but still buy the DLC.

Stop buying games from publishers like this, guys. You are shitting in your own nests repeatedly. If you really want to support the true developers (if they exist still) and play the game, BUY IT ON SALE LATER ON IF YOU MUST! Don't let them keep thinking release issues like this are "a norm".


It's proof people complain just for the sake of complaining. The always-on DRM complaints are the stupidest. It was abundantly clear that the game required to you to be online to play, if you hated that idea, why would you have pre-ordered? :whiste:

LOL. This reminds me so much of the DayZ forum attitude it's not even funny. There's always a few people drinking into the developers koolaid so hard it's blinding.

You realize that a VERY large majority of players are unhappy with the direction the game took, and not only that but "playing online" for the first week was almost impossible. I'd know because my brother stupidly bought the game and wasn't able to play until last week. Oh, by the way? The game isn't needed to be "online to play". EA forced that on (EA)Maxis. It's a shame too, I know people that were actively involved with SimCity 2000/The Sims and not one of those people still work for EA/Maxis. Even the legal reps I know don't work for EA/Maxis anymore.
 
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dagamer34

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LOL. This reminds me so much of the DayZ forum attitude it's not even funny. There always is a few people drinking into the developers koolaid so hard its blinding.

You realize that a VERY large majority of players are unhappy with the direction the game took, and not only that but "playing online" for the first week was almost impossible. I'd know because my brother stupidly bought the game and wasn't able to play until last week. Oh, by the way? The game isn't needed to be "online to play". EA forced that on (EA)Maxis. It's a shame too, I know people that were actively involved with SimCity 2000 and not one of those people still work for EA/Maxis. Even the legal reps I know don't work for EA/Maxis anymore.

There is no koolaid. I just have a simple rule. If I don't think I'll like a game. I don't freaking pre-order it. It was never advertised as a single-player game.

Too many people are having butthurt that SimCity 5 isn't SimCity 4 but with better graphics.
 

Rinaun

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There is no koolaid. I just have a simple rule. If I don't think I'll like a game. I don't freaking pre-order it. It was never advertised as a single-player game.

Too many people are having butthurt that SimCity 5 isn't SimCity 4 but with better graphics.

I think your completely overlooking every point. You kool-aid warrior, you!

How can you know that the game you pre-ordered won't work the entire release week? My brother lost his city 3 times the first week from the saving issues. He works over 60-80 hours a week so I'd say Sim City lost him more enjoyment the first week than it created. Add on top that I haven't told him his "free game" I mentioned earlier is a paltry selection of 5-7 games; all which are terrible sans Dead Space 3. I think when I told him he had a free game he slightly got over the release issues, but now once I tell him it's a shitty selection I'm sure he won't be happy. He was planning on returning the game before I mentioned the free EA game.

Also, Sim City is nothing like Sim City 4. At all. If you think it is that's cool I guess. It's more like Sim Societies, but I guess if I made a flight simulator and named it BF4 it would be a successor to BF3, right?

Might want to look into Sim Societies before you think Sim City 5 is the successor to Sim City 4. You are right though on one point, SC5 has better graphics!

What exactly happens if you select sim city 5 as your reward? Any possibility of gifting it?

This is what I was expecting. When I heard "free game", it translated into "man we are so sorry we hosed this, here's the chance to get your friend into this game and show you we aren't scumbags after all". What ended up happening is typical EA:" WELL WHAT WE REALLY MEANT WAS A GAME FROM 2007-2011 THAT WE SELECTED FORM OUR LIST AND BY THE WAY ITS THE STANDARD VERSION, YOU STILL NEED THE 5 DLC PACKS. ENJOY!". Can't say I didn't see it coming, though.
 
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Sho'Nuff

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Recognizing that I'm likely to poke a hornets nest, I'm pleased. I got DS3 for free. if it wasn't free, I would have passed on it entirely.
 

Maximilian

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There is no koolaid. I just have a simple rule. If I don't think I'll like a game. I don't freaking pre-order it. It was never advertised as a single-player game.

Too many people are having butthurt that SimCity 5 isn't SimCity 4 but with better graphics.

No they are butthurt because its crap, not because it dosent mimic its predecessor.
 

Rinaun

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Recognizing that I'm likely to poke a hornets nest, I'm pleased. I got DS3 for free. if it wasn't free, I would have passed on it entirely.

Dead Space 3 is a good game. It's a shame they didn't promote it more because I feel the developers make it fit into the scary game role that has been left void since Doom 3. I just wish I had the choice of this or anything else in EAs own library, instead of this title, bf3 standard, or some other cheap 20$ game.
 
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Last time I remembered, when you say to your customers you get a free game from a publishers library, it should fucking include every game they have made.

They stated they were going to offer a free download game from the EA portfolio. Nowhere in that statement does it say "any" game from the EA portfolio. I really don't get where people are interpreting that wrong. That's like me telling my kid I'm going to buy them a car but they get pissed when I go to the auto auction instead of the car dealership they wanted.

This is what I was expecting. When I heard "free game", it translated into "man we are so sorry we hosed this, here's the chance to get your friend into this game and show you we aren't scumbags after all". What ended up happening is typical EA:" WELL WHAT WE REALLY MEANT WAS A GAME FROM 2007-2011 THAT WE SELECTED FORM OUR LIST AND BY THE WAY ITS THE STANDARD VERSION, YOU STILL NEED THE 5 DLC PACKS. ENJOY!". Can't say I didn't see it coming, though.

Why in the world were you expecting them to give people the same game they bitched about in the first place? That doesn't make any sense. If they were to have done this, the outrage would've been insane.

Besides, you don't need DLC to play any of the games listed. I don't get this notion either, like it's completely worthless until you buy the $60 worth of DLC. People hate DLC and then act like the game is worthless without it. Which is it?
 

velillen

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Ive been happy with the game so far. Im not the best and so far i seem to just get stuck around 75k people in my regions. Some areas dont seem to want to go to higher density areas but o well. Still been fun and im not super hardcore into either.

As for the free games....kind of meh. I dont really play PC games is the only reason for the meh though I thought they gave a decent choice of games. Though if you owned any of them you might feel a bit screwed. But Ill probably get Dead Space 3 of MoH warfighter
 

greenhawk

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Lots and lots of whining. I just don't get it.

Some of those comments can only come from trolls or clueless people.

I suspect most have not been around bad product / PR spin fixes before to know that regardless of what was said, you will only be offered a limited range of aged games and too bad if you want a free ticket to anything on offer.

Personally, the people that say some of the games are still $60 is missing the point that the prices have been held up and not dropped as is more normal with games that have been out for a while.

Personally, if I had purchased the game and wanted out, I would have done it far sooner regardless of what was being promised, but then the software rules in this country are generally such that you are stuffed for purchasing anything digitially if you do not get what you are expecting.
 

pathos

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It's proof people complain just for the sake of complaining. The always-on DRM complaints are the stupidest. It was abundantly clear that the game required to you to be online to play, if you hated that idea, why would you have pre-ordered? :whiste:

I didn't preorder, nor have I bought after the fact. And, for precisely for that reason. I actually do believe in voting with my wallet, and did so.

Of course, I also haven't gone onto any message board and complained about it either, until this post.

You see, I don't believe that adding social media into my single player game adds value. Not do I wish for some random person to be able to wreck my single player experience. I don't want server problems, latency, or other random people to affect me when I'm trying to enjoy a single player game (I understand that all the above are part of the experience in multiplayer games).

I can't think of 1 good reason for me to subject myself to any of that. Of course, I can think of why a developer/publisher would want to make use of it (drm). And, as long as people keep buying games that have this as a requirement, then publishers will continue to use it.

I had hoped, when I leared that Diablo 3 would have an always on requirement, that a majority of people would do as I did, and not buy the game. That hope was unfounded, as millions around the world bought it. Some complained after the fact, but that didn't do much to correct the fact that they bought the game in the first place.

I kept some faint hope afterwards, that people would have learned their lesson from D3, and not bought this game. It was a pipe dream, however, as this game sold, what, more than 1.5 million copies, if that report was to be believed?

So, I've now learned what the term "hopes dashed" truly means. I've learned that the majority of gamers are 1 of 2 types. The first type is the ones that either want games to go in the direction it's going now, or at the very least, don't mind it.

The second type is the kind that doesn't like it....but pays the money anyway. It doesn't really matter that they go and complain to the world about their experiences later. It only matters that they spent the money in the first place. Publishers only care that they ship units. You can complain all you like, but if you continue to spent money on this knowingly, and continue to spend money on this in the future, then you might as well be in the first group, for all the good you are doing.

Then, of course, there is the minority of gamers out there, who don't want this to happen, and wont pay for it. Thats the category I'm in. We no longer matter, as our number has dwindled into insignificance. We can now be safely ignored, without consequence. There are so few of us now, apparently, that us not spending money doesn't affect anything.

Whats my point? I guess I don't really have one. Well, other that this serviing as any early epitath to the type of gaming I once knew. Sure, there is still is some life to it. There will continue to be some games released without this requirement...in the short term. But, as more companies realize that gamers will continue to purchase games no matter what they are put through (or who actually like where gaming is heading), there will be fewer companies willing to release games without these requirements.

Then, I'll either have to learn to love it along side everyone else, or get out altogether.
 
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