To be fair logistics and planning are quite a bit easier on an island with less than 6 million people. Not that the U.S. was nearly where they should have been in preparedness itself.
You're not going to convince me that we can find the funding and manpower to police half the globe, but not get food and water to our own citizens. Not happening.
500B emergency fund, mobilize all national guards, start getting fucking MREs to high risk populations for all I care. This isn't a time to waffle around with 'well, due to our shit economy, some people are too broke to stop working, so we'll just let those ones die'.
I guess that's why Trump is still scheduling rallies. What a guy!!
Is $500B in MRE's going to placate the millions of parents stuck home with their kids for 2 weeks or more 24/7? I think you misunderstand the scope of the problem, urban progressive moms will be the first to riot if stuck in their $2mm 800sq ft townhouse with their crotchspawn for a few weeks or more instead of dumping them off on the nanny or at daycare and heading into their office to get some peace and quiet. If was just a matter of getting food to people the folks stuck on the cruise boats would happily stay locked aboard for however long it takes instead of screaming to get out.
Don't care one iota about the mental state of childish adults. If someone's that incapable of being forced to live their life in relative isolation for two weeks, they have problems that the government cannot fix (though COVID-19 might).Is $500B in MRE's going to placate the millions of parents stuck home with their kids for 2 weeks or more 24/7? I think you misunderstand the scope of the problem, urban progressive moms will be the first to riot if stuck in their $2mm 800sq ft townhouse with their crotchspawn for a few weeks or more instead of dumping them off on the nanny or at daycare and heading into their office to get some peace and quiet. If was just a matter of getting food to people the folks stuck on the cruise boats would happily stay locked aboard for however long it takes instead of screaming to get out.
Good. Let him. Maybe they can take a few of themselves out as well as Trump. Ignorance cannot be stopped!!!
Don't care one iota about the mental state of childish adults. If someone's that incapable of being forced to live their life in relative isolation for two weeks, they have problems that the government cannot fix (though COVID-19 might).
Welp, I guess we get to claim moral superiority based on who pulls the trigger first then.I have no doubt you don't care. Politicians do care however. You'll notice no Dem governor or mayor has imposed isolation (except in very limited cases like 1 mile exclusion zone around New Rochelle, NY) for that reason. And it's not because Trump is a psychopath for not ordering it any more than those Dem governors are pyschopaths for not doing so either.
Welp, I guess we get to claim moral superiority based on who pulls the trigger first then.
Might have to go higher on Trump, him committing to widespread quarantine is almost guaranteeing he loses next election due to economic loss, in his wormy brain.Wonder what the Vegas betting lines would be on a widespread quarantine order (multi-county or greater for Gov, entire state or region for Trump). I'm guessing moneyline on Trump would be +300 against the field (consisting of governors and mayors) with governors of WA and NY being around -130 or so.
Not surprised you don't really differentiate between "effective government" and "authoritarian government." In 2018, Singapore was ranked 151st by Reporters Without Borders in the Worldwide Press Freedom Index, but I guess to you that's a model for us to emulate? As @zinfamous stated it's a lot easier if you completely disregard any sense of civil liberties. Spitting gets you whipped, drug possession executed, and I guess coronavirus gets you keelhauled there?
I didn’t take it as snarky.My post was a snarky response to Starbuck repeatedly insinuating that the incompetence of the Trump administration's response didn't matter because every country was getting infections at a similar rate.
Why do you bother with this nonsense where you pretend that I've finally pulled off my secret authoritarian mask and revealed myself for the real Stalinist you always assumed I am? It's never going to happen, so you might as well give up on it.
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It's pretty easy to get full public compliance with any order when the public will be jailed, beaten, or killed for non compliance.You can have an effective emergency posture without having an authoritarian government posture. Quit being obtuse.
It's pretty easy to get full public compliance with any order when the public will be jailed, beaten, or killed for non compliance.
Forget it Jake, its Idaho.So what? Florida Man (he's everywhere) will brave all of that for a six pack or attending church on Easter Sunday. He'll do it just to rave about big gubmint taking away his freedumb-
Ammon Bundy: ‘I Want the Virus Now’
The “patriot movement” leader is pursuing his anti-government worldview into organized defiance of Idaho’s social-isolation orders.nymag.com
And he'll brave all obstacles to vote for Trump, too.
I think that was in an effort to curb housing costs and ensure availability, considering they are quite limited in land area. I haven't read up enough about its effectiveness so can't say whether it worked.Yet I think at least at one time the state owned all the land - meaning everyone lived in a kind of 'social housing'.