"skinfolk ain't my kinfolk"?

[CADsortaGUY]

10 Questions For Tavis Smiley

WHAT'S MORE DIVERSE THESE DAYS ? NPR OR PRESIDENT BUSH'S CABINET?

Bush's Cabinet. It is ironic that a Republican President has an Administration that is more inclusive and more diverse than a so-called liberal-media-elite network.

BUT DO BUSH'S MINORITY SELECTIONS REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITIES FROM WHICH THEY COME?

There is a distinction between symbolism and substance ? Zora Neale Hurston once said, "All my skinfolk ain't my kinfolk." But whether one likes or loathes the people Bush has chosen to be part of his Administration, he is reaching out.

Isn't Tavis an outspoken leftist? Why yes, yes he is. Hmm... Did he drink some tainted cool-aid at Thanksgiving?

CsG

 

[Dari]

Bush's cabinet reflect who he and his family is and what they represent. Let's not forget that Prescott Bush, George Walker Bush's grandfather, was the President of the United Negro College Fund Connecticut chapter while a US Senator. That says a lot about the man's family.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush's cabinet reflect who he and his family is and what they represent. Let's not forget that Prescott Bush, George Walker Bush's grandfather, was the President of the United Negro College Fund Connecticut chapter while a US Senator. That says a lot about the man's family.

And there we have it. Proof positive that GWB is a man of the people and a humanitarian by association. So all of Hitlers relatives are equally guilty for his crimes. Gotta take the good with the bad, right. Got it. :roll:

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush's cabinet reflect who he and his family is and what they represent. Let's not forget that Prescott Bush, George Walker Bush's grandfather, was the President of the United Negro College Fund Connecticut chapter while a US Senator. That says a lot about the man's family.

And there we have it. Proof positive that GWB is a man of the people and a humanitarian by association. So all of Hitlers relatives are equally guilty for his crimes. Gotta take the good with the bad, right. Got it. :roll:

What I'm trying to get at is that he's not some stereotypical hick as some would like to brand him. Bush is as blue-blooded as they come.

By the way, Hitler was Jewish.

 

[SuperTool]

We'll see how Condie does her new job. Hopefully better than her previous one. I frankly don't care if she's black, woman, from Stanford, etc. I just don't think she's a right fit for the SoS job.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush's cabinet reflect who he and his family is and what they represent. Let's not forget that Prescott Bush, George Walker Bush's grandfather, was the President of the United Negro College Fund Connecticut chapter while a US Senator. That says a lot about the man's family.

And there we have it. Proof positive that GWB is a man of the people and a humanitarian by association. So all of Hitlers relatives are equally guilty for his crimes. Gotta take the good with the bad, right. Got it. :roll:

What I'm trying to get at is that he's not some stereotypical hick as some would like to brand him. Bush is as blue-blooded as they come.

By the way, Hitler was Jewish.

Was his mother Jewish? If not, neither was he.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush's cabinet reflect who he and his family is and what they represent. Let's not forget that Prescott Bush, George Walker Bush's grandfather, was the President of the United Negro College Fund Connecticut chapter while a US Senator. That says a lot about the man's family.

And there we have it. Proof positive that GWB is a man of the people and a humanitarian by association. So all of Hitlers relatives are equally guilty for his crimes. Gotta take the good with the bad, right. Got it. :roll:

What I'm trying to get at is that he's not some stereotypical hick as some would like to brand him. Bush is as blue-blooded as they come.

By the way, Hitler was Jewish.

Was his mother Jewish? If not, neither was he.

His father was Jewish, that's enough for me (but not enough for him to be authentically Jewish). My point in reference to his Jewishness was to make the previous reference moot.

 

[Genx87]

Does this surprise you?

Democratic Leader Bashes Black Justice.

For the life of me I cant understand how the minorities can still believe the democrats and liberals are really for them.

You have had nothign but attacks on two black high level ranking officials in our govt since the end of the election by the liberal media and now democratic leaders.

But 4 years from now when Hillary runs you will see her in Baptist churches the last two weeks of the election.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Does this surprise you?

Democratic Leader Bashes Black Justice.

For the life of me I cant understand how the minorities can still believe the democrats and liberals are really for them.

You have had nothign but attacks on two black high level ranking officials in our govt since the end of the election by the liberal media and now democratic leaders.

But 4 years from now when Hillary runs you will see her in Baptist churches the last two weeks of the election.

lol, Kerry was in Baptist churches the last two weeks too.

Fact is, blacks are taken for granted in the Democratic Party. They need to start voting the same way they live, Conservative. They also need to stop asking for handouts and start working towards earning every nickel.

 

[judasmachine]

We'll call it "reaching out" when he appoints a member of a minority that isn't a rabid neocon. I'll give ya Powell he was the closest to a moderate in the cabinent.

How's about appointing a homosexual? Now that would be "reaching out."

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
We'll call it "reaching out" when he appoints a member of a minority that isn't a rabid neocon. I'll give ya Powell he was the closest to a moderate in the cabinent.

How's about appointing a homosexual? Now that would be "reaching out."

And thus it begins. The field is now 110 yards...

CsG

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: judasmachine
We'll call it "reaching out" when he appoints a member of a minority that isn't a rabid neocon. I'll give ya Powell he was the closest to a moderate in the cabinent.

How's about appointing a homosexual? Now that would be "reaching out."

And thus it begins. The field is now 110 yards...

CsG

Whatever man. If your boy is so accepting why does he draw the line there? I agree NPR should live up to thier "accepting" reputation. But if you are going to call Bush a humanitarian, then you better make damn well sure he's willing to be that humanitarian.

 

[Cipherous]

I don't care what ethnicity Bush nominates, its what they're for and what they stand for.

its absurd to think that Michelle Malkin will represent all (or even a good minority) Asians or that Alan Keyes will represent all Blacks.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Does this surprise you?

Democratic Leader Bashes Black Justice.

For the life of me I cant understand how the minorities can still believe the democrats and liberals are really for them.

You have had nothign but attacks on two black high level ranking officials in our govt since the end of the election by the liberal media and now democratic leaders.

But 4 years from now when Hillary runs you will see her in Baptist churches the last two weeks of the election.

What has Clarence Thomas done for black people aside from upholding their death sentences?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Genx87
Does this surprise you?

Democratic Leader Bashes Black Justice.

For the life of me I cant understand how the minorities can still believe the democrats and liberals are really for them.

You have had nothign but attacks on two black high level ranking officials in our govt since the end of the election by the liberal media and now democratic leaders.

But 4 years from now when Hillary runs you will see her in Baptist churches the last two weeks of the election.

lol, Kerry was in Baptist churches the last two weeks too.

Fact is, blacks are taken for granted in the Democratic Party. They need to start voting the same way they live, Conservative. They also need to stop asking for handouts and start working towards earning every nickel.

Yes, all black people are on welfare. :roll:
You assume they can't earn a living, then you assume they are too dumb to vote for who is best for them, and then you wonder why they vote Democratic.

 

[NeoV]

nice Dari....lets group all the black people under the "asking for handouts" category, and "aren't voting smartly every single election".

Wow that is an ignorant statement.

 

[SuperTool]

Another thread from today

In an 8-to-1 decision last year, the Supreme court instructed the appeals court to rethink its "dismissive and strained interpretation" of the proof in the case, and to consider more seriously the substantial evidence suggesting that prosecutors had systematically excluded blacks from Mr. Miller-El's jury. Prosecutors used peremptory strikes to eliminate 10 out of 11 eligible black jurors, and they twice used a local procedure called a jury shuffle to move blacks lower on the list of potential jurors, the decision said. The jury ultimately selected, which had one black member, convicted Mr. Miller-El, a black man who is now 53, of killing a clerk at a Holiday Inn in Dallas in 1985.

Instead of considering much of the evidence recited by the Supreme court majority, the appeals court engaged in something akin to plagiarism. In February, it again rejected Mr. Miller-El's claims, in a decision that reproduced, virtually verbatim and without attribution, several paragraphs from the sole dissenting opinion in last year's Supreme court decision, written by Justice Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas's dissenting opinion is used to justify systematic exclusion of black jurors from cases involving blacks. Republicans did blacks a great favor by putting Thomas on the USSC :roll:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: NeoV
nice Dari....lets group all the black people under the "asking for handouts" category, and "aren't voting smartly every single election".

Wow that is an ignorant statement.

No more "ignorant" than someone posting/thinking - "What has Clarence Thomas done for black people aside from upholding their death sentences?"

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Another thread from today

In an 8-to-1 decision last year, the Supreme court instructed the appeals court to rethink its "dismissive and strained interpretation" of the proof in the case, and to consider more seriously the substantial evidence suggesting that prosecutors had systematically excluded blacks from Mr. Miller-El's jury. Prosecutors used peremptory strikes to eliminate 10 out of 11 eligible black jurors, and they twice used a local procedure called a jury shuffle to move blacks lower on the list of potential jurors, the decision said. The jury ultimately selected, which had one black member, convicted Mr. Miller-El, a black man who is now 53, of killing a clerk at a Holiday Inn in Dallas in 1985.

Instead of considering much of the evidence recited by the Supreme court majority, the appeals court engaged in something akin to plagiarism. In February, it again rejected Mr. Miller-El's claims, in a decision that reproduced, virtually verbatim and without attribution, several paragraphs from the sole dissenting opinion in last year's Supreme court decision, written by Justice Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas's dissenting opinion is used to justify systematic exclusion of black jurors from cases involving blacks. Republicans did blacks a great favor by putting Thomas on the USSC :roll:

He has to judge based on his skin color? And here I was thinking that the Constitution was what he judges against.

CsG

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Another thread from today

In an 8-to-1 decision last year, the Supreme court instructed the appeals court to rethink its "dismissive and strained interpretation" of the proof in the case, and to consider more seriously the substantial evidence suggesting that prosecutors had systematically excluded blacks from Mr. Miller-El's jury. Prosecutors used peremptory strikes to eliminate 10 out of 11 eligible black jurors, and they twice used a local procedure called a jury shuffle to move blacks lower on the list of potential jurors, the decision said. The jury ultimately selected, which had one black member, convicted Mr. Miller-El, a black man who is now 53, of killing a clerk at a Holiday Inn in Dallas in 1985.

Instead of considering much of the evidence recited by the Supreme court majority, the appeals court engaged in something akin to plagiarism. In February, it again rejected Mr. Miller-El's claims, in a decision that reproduced, virtually verbatim and without attribution, several paragraphs from the sole dissenting opinion in last year's Supreme court decision, written by Justice Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas's dissenting opinion is used to justify systematic exclusion of black jurors from cases involving blacks. Republicans did blacks a great favor by putting Thomas on the USSC :roll:

He has to judge based on his skin color? And here I was thinking that the Constitution was what he judges against.

CsG

Genx87 brought up Thomas as if black people should feel offended when reid attacks Thomas.
When the prosecutors are deliberately excluding black people from Juries, and you say by all means go ahead, it doesn't matter what your skin color is, you aren't doing black people any favors.
Oh, and if Thomas was judging against the Constitution, the 8 justices including Scalia were judging against what?

 

[NeoV]

I believe the point, CAD, is that Thomas was the only one of the Supreme Court judges...you know, that 8-1 part?

By the way, I'm pretty sure someone making a comment about ALL black people in this country being ignorant voters and asking for handouts is worse than someone saying C.Thomas has done nothing for black people

 

[ForThePeople]

Originally posted by: Dari

His father was Jewish, that's enough for me (but not enough for him to be authentically Jewish). My point in reference to his Jewishness was to make the previous reference moot.

No, his father was not Jewish. Neither of his maternal grandparents were Jewish, and his paternal grandmother was definitely not Jewish. No one is listed as the father on the birth certificate and there were rumors that the lady was impregnated by rape at the hands of the son of her employer (she was a domestic servant); there are rumors but it is equally likely that she was impregnated through her known promiscuity.

If it was true then Hitler would be 1/4 Jewish from his Father's side; and he was not raised a practicing Jew. He would not be considered a Jew, and he dispacted top members of the SA to conclusively determine who his unknown paternal grandfather was (and more to the point if he was Jewish).

While the outcome of that investigation was never made public many people who were in on the rumors believe that Hitler had determined he was not, in fact, Jewish. By all accounts the matter no longer bothered him after the time that he supposedly learned the results of the SA search.

I hope to God your ignorance isn't some sign about the sorry state of our educational system and the dumbing down that allows you to spout ignorance with absolute confidence.

More to the point at hand - Bush is not, and never was nor will ever be, a "blue blood." How you come to this hysterical conclusion I have no clue but it is a step down the world of belief-as-truth that took us 1,000 years to escape from.

Why is it so hard for you Bush apologist to get your facts straight?

 

[yllus]

This is sort of off topic, but...don't get me wrong when I say I like President Bush's foreign policies, but given the choice between him and General Powell for the hot seat I'd pick Powell in a heartbeat. It's depressing that that will never happen.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: yllus
This is sort of off topic, but...don't get me wrong when I say I like President Bush's foreign policies, but given the choice between him and General Powell for the hot seat I'd pick Powell in a heartbeat. It's depressing that that will never happen.

It won't happen because Powell doesn't want it to happen, which in turn makes me question if he has what it takes. He's a good soldier, but I am not so sure about what he would do with noone calling the shots.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: yllus
This is sort of off topic, but...don't get me wrong when I say I like President Bush's foreign policies, but given the choice between him and General Powell for the hot seat I'd pick Powell in a heartbeat. It's depressing that that will never happen.

It won't happen because Powell doesn't want it to happen, which in turn makes me question if he has what it takes. He's a good soldier, but I am not so sure about what he would do with noone calling the shots.

Four-star generals are usually pretty good at calling the shots. I just get the feeling that he would abhor that kind of attention. Which pretty much makes him exactly the kind of guy you want in power.