Skylake vs A10 AMD

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DrMrLordX

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Not if the board only supports 2133 as i have seen. I know the memory will default to max allowed though

Huh, well that would put a damper on things. I don't know of many FM2+ boards that support only DDR3-2133 and below. Maybe there are some.

Yeah, sure.... Whatever you say. It's about as exciting as overclocking a desktop Kabini. And the results are similarly futile IMO -- the majority of overclockers would focus on using better chips to start with (not dual cores).

Hey now. I loved overclocking locked Stars chips, and I overclocked locked k8 chips before that. Don't be knockin my htt overclockin!

Overclockable i3 would be huge. Depending on the workload, overclocking Skylake i3 via bclk would get it pretty close to Skylake i5-like speeds, and even closer to Haswell i5-like speeds. Still not the best possible solution, but very interesting nevertheless!

Considering how many OEMs enabled at least partial overclocking of the G3258 on non-Z97 LGA1150 motherboards, it is tempting to consider the possibility that some of the same OEMs will copy the UEFI trick used in that SuperMicro boards to entice customers.
 

AtenRa

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The time that happen(Overclockable Core i3s), Intel will say good bye to Core i5 sales.
 

Yuriman

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They should at least give the i3 a little Turbo.

The point of turbo is (mostly) to allow for cores to clock higher when fewer of them are used. It makes sense to have turbo on 4+ core chips, but I don't see a lot of point in clocking i3's 1-200mhz higher when you're only using one core, because let's be honest, how often does that actually happen?
 

LTC8K6

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The point of turbo is (mostly) to allow for cores to clock higher when fewer of them are used. It makes sense to have turbo on 4+ core chips, but I don't see a lot of point in clocking i3's 1-200mhz higher when you're only using one core, because let's be honest, how often does that actually happen?


Turbo isn't only for one core, though.

Turbo is for light loads. It can involve anything from one to all cores. The boost on multiple cores can be considerably more than 200mhz.

For example, an I7-4790:

3600 MHz base
Turbo frequency:
3800 MHz (4 cores)
3900 MHz (3 cores)
4000 MHz (1 or 2 cores)
 

bystander36

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Turbo isn't only for one core, though.

Turbo is for light loads. It can involve anything from one to all cores. The boost on multiple cores can be considerably more than 200mhz.

For example, an I7-4790:

3600 MHz base
Turbo frequency:
3800 MHz (4 cores)
3900 MHz (3 cores)
4000 MHz (1 or 2 cores)

A light load wouldn't need a turbo boost, unless it's because 1 or 2 cores are only being used heavily, and the rest are not. On a 2 core processor, a light load is much harder to happen at a time where 1 core is being pushed and needs turbo on.
 

ShintaiDK

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Still he got a point. On desktop, turbo on a 2 core part is pretty much close to irrelevant.
 

bystander36

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Nope, im saying people will chose to buy the cheaper Core i3 and OC than get the more expensive lower clocked Quad core Core i5.

While there may be a few more i3 purchases, I'd bet most people buying i5's now would still buy i5's. If they wanted to OC, they'd still likely buy the i5 and OC it. The i5 is still a superior CPU, regardless of the i3's ability to OC or not.
 

ShintaiDK

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Nope, im saying people will chose to buy the cheaper Core i3 and OC than get the more expensive lower clocked Quad core Core i5.

You overrate the amount of overclocking people by epic amounts.

The fraud history however on unlocked CPUs still haunts.
 

LTC8K6

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The point is that it varies based on workload. With only 2 cores, they can simply clock it to what it can handle right from the get go. Though I'm sure they keep that clock lower simply because it's a lower in product.

Well, they had IDA on the earlier 2 core chips. My T8300 laptop is 2.4Ghz with IDA to 2.6Ghz. I often see it at 2.6Ghz.
 

mohit9206

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1680 x 1050 res.

Game: Just Cause 3

Cheap means cheap as possible not expensive so cheapest card. Lowest price card i can get away with! lol

Gtx950 is a solid option under $150.No card comes close to it in value vs performance especially with the recent price drop.2gb vram should be plenty for 1680*1050.
 

Teabaghead

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Gtx950 is a solid option under $150.No card comes close to it in value vs performance especially with the recent price drop.2gb vram should be plenty for 1680*1050.

Many thanks for your advice :thumbsup:
 
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Phynaz

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Seams your blue glasses are out of focus,


We are not talking about all the boards, we are talking specifically about that particular $240 SuperMicro board that a single guy have managed to OC the Core i3 and he doesnt even say how he did it. And then ShintaiDK calls us desperate and you are talking about goalposts when the original context was about "extremely limited" and "extra cost" ??

And here come all the less expensive boards that can overclock non-K Skylake CPU's. I saw this coming, why didn't you?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9848/bclk-overclocking-intels-non-k-skylake-processors-coming-soon

I guess Intel wants that last 2% from AMD.
 

MiddleOfTheRoad

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Gtx950 is a solid option under $150.No card comes close to it in value vs performance especially with the recent price drop.2gb vram should be plenty for 1680*1050.

You're kidding me, right? You can buy a 2GB R9 380 for about $139 rebate -- and that card wallops the 950 by a very wide margin. A 380 is strong enough for 1440p gaming on most games, so 1050 would be silky smooth.
 

MiddleOfTheRoad

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And here come all the less expensive boards that can overclock non-K Skylake CPU's. I saw this coming, why didn't you?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9848/bclk-overclocking-intels-non-k-skylake-processors-coming-soon

I guess Intel wants that last 2% from AMD.

Yeah, as if Intel didn't quickly move to block G3258 overclocking on non-enthusiast motherboards. It really isn't a big deal, though. For once I agree with Shintai,
the number of people who actually overclock is a infinitely small amount of buyers.
 

Phynaz

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You're kidding me, right? You can buy a 2GB R9 380 for about $139 rebate -- and that card wallops the 950 by a very wide margin. A 380 is strong enough for 1440p gaming on most games, so 1050 would be silky smooth.

The R9 also wallops the 950 in power consumption, requiring two auxiliary power cables whereas the 950 is very comfortable using just one.

You also pay the price in system noise, a 950 can run games without its fan running. The R9 is a very loud card in comparison.
 
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