Skylake vs A10 AMD

[dark zero]

I dont think you're looking at this right. If you factored in MB and RAM prices you could get an 860K and 750ti or 260x for about the same price as the i3 6300 build

860k - $69
ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ - $45
8gb DDR3 - $32
2gb 750ti/260x - $110 (about)
$256

vs

6300 - $157
Gigabyte GA-H110M-A - $55
8gb DDR4 - $40
$252


There's really no reason to go with an APU right now.

Agreed... I tought that you were about to say that Intel iGPU would be superior to the 750ti.... hopefully it won't happen for a long while.... That AMD chip would be the only budget thing they have...

 

[LTC8K6]

I dont think you're looking at this right. If you factored in MB and RAM prices you could get an 860K and 750ti or 260x for about the same price as the i3 6300 build

860k - $69
ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ - $45
8gb DDR3 - $32
2gb 750ti/260x - $110 (about)
$256

vs

6300 - $157
Gigabyte GA-H110M-A - $55
8gb DDR4 - $40
$252


There's really no reason to go with an APU right now.

Yes, the i3 is the better buy because of the upgrade path. You can drop a much faster CPU in there down the road, and a video card if you need to. You can boost the performance a lot when you need to.

With the AMD setup, you are basically stuck with a slow CPU.

 

[frozentundra123456]

OP, here are the benchmarks between an A10 and a Haswell i3. bench . Feel free to make your own decision about which has better cpu performance. Personally I would trust objective benchmarks more than subjective "feel" or some artificially constructed scenario to try to discredit the benchmarks, but it is up to you. That said, as someone else suggested, an Athlon x4 860k with a discrete gpu such as a GTX 750/750Ti could well be the best solution if gaming is important, and will be very close in cost to the other options.

 

[Teabaghead]

Thanks people. Lots to think about. 2nd hand is not an option. I prefer new.

Decision time!

 

[Teabaghead]

Benchmarks dont mean a lot to me though. Real world use is more important.

Yes, i would like to do some gaming but that is not top of the list at the moment. I want a nice fast PC. Something that can handle most things thrown at it. Gaming would be a bonus. As i said before, its years since i owned a dedicated GPU.

Saying the AMD socket will be dead and non upgradeable is fine but it is quite cheap to buy anyway. Cost is a factor but so is performance. I dont want to buy something that is going to be slow.

I am trying to research as much as i can. So many figures!!

The cost of the 6100 and 7870K is around my ideal budget for a CPU. Deciding on AMD or Intel is important for me.

 

[monstercameron]

Benchmarks dont mean a lot to me though. Real world use is more important.

Yes, i would like to do some gaming but that is not top of the list at the moment. I want a nice fast PC. Something that can handle most things thrown at it. Gaming would be a bonus. As i said before, its years since i owned a dedicated GPU.

Saying the AMD socket will be dead and non upgradeable is fine but it is quite cheap to buy anyway. Cost is a factor but so is performance. I dont want to buy something that is going to be slow.

I am trying to research as much as i can. So many figures!!

The cost of the 6100 and 7870K is around my ideal budget for a CPU. Deciding on AMD or Intel is important for me.

go with the cheaper solution and get a ssd.

 

[Ranulf]

You people recommending matx boards didn't read the OP's first post.

"I will be building the PC in an ITX Case, Antec isk600 as i was given a 2nd hand one with a modular PSU already fitted (evga 550w)."

I believe he already has a ssd drive ready to go too.

So he's just dealing with itx mobos in 1151 socket Intel and FM2 in AMD. So roughly $90 for Intel, $60-70 for AMD for the cheapest mobos.

This narrows it down to roughly $30+ more for the i3. Given he might want to upgrade the graphics in the future or toss in a faster cpu, the Intel system is the way to go. If you want to save cash at you go AMD. Some of the AMD boards get awfully close to $90 but have a rebate.

In basic usage I doubt you'd see a difference between the two cpus.

 

[Teabaghead]

go with the cheaper solution and get a ssd.

Already got a spare SSD

 

[mysticjbyrd]

AMD GPUs are usually the best bang for the buck, their CPU's not as much anymore.

Budget AMD cpu + AMD gpu = Bad performance in some titles
Budget Intel CPU + AMD gpu or Nvidia GPU = solid performance

 

[Teabaghead]

AMD GPUs are usually the best bang for the buck, their CPU's not as much anymore.

Budget AMD cpu + AMD gpu = Bad performance in some titles
Budget Intel CPU + AMD gpu or Nvidia GPU = solid performance

Yea, i see that mentioned all the time. So, i guess, if i wasn't going to game seriously the i3 would be the better choice then as i am after a fast system within my CPU budget.

 

[Teabaghead]

The i3-6300 not worth getting over the i3-6100 even though it has a bit more L3 Cache and a tiny bit more clock?

 

[ShintaiDK]

The i3-6300 not worth getting over the i3-6100 even though it has a bit more L3 Cache and a tiny bit more clock?

No, use the 30$ on something else.

 

[Teabaghead]

Thanks

 

[Teabaghead]

Lol, after all this discussion and a mate has given me his A8-7600 and Motherboard!! Going to buy some 2133 ram now, 8GB should be enough?

Strange how things work out!! He has gone over to the dark side (Apple).

Looks like things have been decided for me!!

Going to see what the net says about this CPU now! Can't complain though!

 

[Burpo]

Lol, A lively thread.. All for not.. :\

Most bang for the buck is always.. Free!

8Gb is plenty..

 

[LTC8K6]

It's an okay low end CPU with low end graphics.

 

[richaron]

Good outcome, I use a 7600 daily with light gaming & it's a nice little chip. Plus for me it's got good enough performance and power usage to run as a htpc/steam box or even a firewall/router.

That being said, I wouldn't want any less on the GPU front...

I do light photo editing and the occasional encoding fine. The only area where I feel the CPU is lacking is when running many Browser windows/tabs running dozens of scripts (though it might just be FF in Linux). I had to install no script addons and/or learn which sites are full of crappy embedded tracking/advertising.

Edited.

 

[MrTeal]

Lol, after all this discussion and a mate has given me his A8-7600 and Motherboard!! Going to buy some 2133 ram now, 8GB should be enough?

Strange how things work out!! He has gone over to the dark side (Apple).

Looks like things have been decided for me!!

Going to see what the net says about this CPU now! Can't complain though!

Unless you were planning on overclocking, you probably won't notice any difference between the 7600 and the 7870k you were looking at in anything but gaming.

You'll probably be pretty happy with the system. The question of what else you'd do with the system other than occasional light gaming never got answered, but if it's just general internet browsing, playing music, watching movies and stuff like that you'll probably be very happy with the A8. It'll be worlds better than your old netbook, especially with the SSD.

 

[sm625]

Skylake i3-6300 is like a 4.4GHz G3258 with hyperthreading. Since I would rather use that setup even without hyperthreading, the added HT bonus makes it even better.

 

[Teabaghead]

Unless you were planning on overclocking, you probably won't notice any difference between the 7600 and the 7870k you were looking at in anything but gaming.

You'll probably be pretty happy with the system. The question of what else you'd do with the system other than occasional light gaming never got answered, but if it's just general internet browsing, playing music, watching movies and stuff like that you'll probably be very happy with the A8. It'll be worlds better than your old netbook, especially with the SSD.

Yea, not much as probably only the things you mentioned.

Got it up and running already and it is very nippy!! Put Win 10 on as i had a Win 8 to upgrade from. So far, very pleased.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yea, even if you buy the cpu, the A8-7600 is close to the sweet spot for price/performance in gaming at least. The higher end chips cost quite a bit more, use more power, and are bandwidth limited anyway, so the gaming is not that much better.

The 7600 will be fine for light gaming and general use. Congrats on the free chip.

 

[Teabaghead]

It wasn't entirely free as i did part with some money :biggrin:

 

[Magic Carpet]

Yea, even if you buy the cpu, the A8-7600 is close to the sweet spot for price/performance in gaming at least

Yeah, it's not bad.

 

[Teabaghead]

Cheers.

 

[jhu]

You people recommending matx boards didn't read the OP's first post.

"I will be building the PC in an ITX Case, Antec isk600 as i was given a 2nd hand one with a modular PSU already fitted (evga 550w)."

I believe he already has a ssd drive ready to go too.

So he's just dealing with itx mobos in 1151 socket Intel and FM2 in AMD. So roughly $90 for Intel, $60-70 for AMD for the cheapest mobos.

This narrows it down to roughly $30+ more for the i3. Given he might want to upgrade the graphics in the future or toss in a faster cpu, the Intel system is the way to go. If you want to save cash at you go AMD. Some of the AMD boards get awfully close to $90 but have a rebate.

In basic usage I doubt you'd see a difference between the two cpus.

This is the most reasonable response. Go with Intel: If you need more CPU performance in the future, you can just drop in a more powerful CPU. With the AMD option, that CPU is already at or near the top for that socket so you'll have to replace CPU+Motheboard if you want more CPU performance.